Super Strength

I recognize and sympathize with the urge to lament the performance of the set, and specific powers in the set, but that's not really the point of the thread. On the other hand, I did just name it "Super Strength," so I suppose anything is fair game.

For my part, I think the set is pretty decent. It performs well, and the Rage crash has never really bothered me. I don't anticipate them making any major changes to the set, though. It's my understanding they said flat out they wouldn't make any more major changes to any sets. That's why I thought to suggest adjustments that are not major. Switching the order of two powers would not alter the power of the set, and adding some cosmetic effects might make it seem more powerful without actually altering performance.

Rage doesn't bother me as much since we've been able to tone down the glow.

well, since we're wishing into the wind, here's mine.

First, I'd change the way knockback works. ALL Knockback in the game would be changed to knockDOWN. Slotting even one Knockback enhancer in the power would make it knockBACK. More enhancers would mean more knockback. Additionally, Knockback would do damage (it should hurt being dropped on your head after flying 30 feet). Again, more knockback would do more damage.

Second, the set should have SLOW, EXTREMELY DAMAGING attacks that use low endurance. This is at the base level before "Rage." The idea here is the unmodified attack is refelctive of the character holding back. You can rationalize it as a subconscious or a deliberate self-control. "Rage" would be renamed and would become a toggle. It would increase damage, but also greatly increase endurance use, and possibly slow attacks even further. I don't know, balancing would be needed.

Third, Super Strength is defined, not by just hitting things, but by other feats - by lifting, holding, carrying and by collateral damage. I'm sure you've all seen this, but if not watch it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2BvSqqmidM
THIS is how Super Strength works in comics. Observe the titanic knockback. Massive environmental damage, dust and smoke. Lifting heavy objects to clobber each other with. Thus in my perfect world, the set would incorporate these things. There would be fewer attacks based on punching things, and more that make use of hitting things with objects (it would probably have to be chunks of ground in each case since we can't interact with the environment). I once posted a thread that included a new list of powers but it seems to have been purged when they changed the forums. I'll see if I can find it again.

Ultimo, your posts (and any posts about SS for that matter) fall of deaf ears.

The devs are too busy creating massively overpowered AVs who's attacks we must run away from to worry about allowing players to be able to do cool things. Because what does punching someone through a wall or throwing cars have to do with super heroes and villains anyways?

Besides, if it's not aping something that's in D&D or a WoW encounter, Positron can't be bothered, no matter how fundamental or iconic super strength is.


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Personally, I like superstrength the way it is. Nothing feels more 'super' that footstomping (or in my case, groundpunching) the floor causing the 12 or so baddies around me to fall on their arses. There was a suggestion made by someone a while ago suggesting that the set recieve a "Wham!" "Pow!" balloon appear on screen under certain conditions when punching someone. That suggestion was made a long time ago, so I'm guessing it won't likely be occuring. 'shrugs"

I do however like your debree and dust floating across the ground. That'll definately spruce up the set some. As for hurl and handclap, I never take them anyways, so do with them what you want.

Such a cornucopia of flavours, such sounds and tones and changing moods... these tears, the- wait, Dechs already did that?

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Heroes, Villains ♦ Reviews ♦ Retrospect

Well let me start off with this.. Let's not switch Hurl with Hand Clap let's get rid of Hand Clap altogether and get something better in there. That is the one power I took and then respec'd out of. I am a melee character and need to be in range for my attacks to work why on earth do I want a power that sends my target flying across the room (or map) and then I have to chase after them to continue? Let's replace that with something similar to Air Superiority (from Fly) or Haymaker (from the SS set). Knock them down so they can't attack again until they stand up not shoot them across the room and now I have to run after them.

Hurl isn't a bad power but to be honest it has some knockback associated with it as well and while I have taken and kept that I set it aside and only use it in special cases... If I want to taunt from a distance or if I am toe to toe with a AV (since I know it will do damage but most AVs are not going to get knocked anywhere).

Footstomp is awesome (IMO) and with damage enhancers not only taunts and knocks everything in range down it can do decent damage. I have a SD/SS Tanker and I will hit a mob with Shield charge and then follow up with Foot stomp. At that point everything is completely foused on me with ever once hitting taunt and most of the minions in the mob are close to dead before the team even opens up with AoEs.

Its true unlike say .. Superman our SS doesn't stack up well but it's a good set and could be better with one or two changes

I'm curious why Air Superiority from the flight pool fully slotted with Rage does more damage than Super Strength's Tier 2 attack fully slotted with Rage? Doesn't really seem right. Things such as this makes SS feel weak to me.

I'd like to see Jab bumped up from Minor to Moderate DMG.