I am not liking the crafting system need some tips.

Yes I know how to use the auction house but the problem is you need multiple receipies just to craft, its expensive for one thing even the salvage is expensive right now, there is no buyout option which is very annoying, there should be regardless for people do not want to wait forever to enchance, some of us need to enchance at those levels.

The inventory system is highly annoying, there is no real assistence as far as inventory goes sure you have vault, but your not going to know exactly what you need without having to right down what you need from every receipie you need to use and that is allot.

Anyways I am level 35 and realized it was cheaper to just buy the io crafted enchancements its the normal ones btw, I heard most people wait till 40, does anyone have any advice here how to deal with all this?

Thank you.

Bid cheap, and bid well in advance.

I start on IOs very early (level 7). A bunch of level 10 and level 15 generics cost less than 5k each if you wait overnight for them to fill. Ios at around 15-20 are comparablle with DOs, without the hassle of having them degrade.

All generics 30-50 IOs can generally be got for around 120k left bidding overnight. Sometimes cheaper, so bid before you get to the level you want to slot them NOW. When I over buy, I put the excess on the market, often for profit.

This is all puchasing crafted.

Bidding for recipes, I tend to do in blocks of 5 to make it easie to manage, aside from drops. Selling the excess for profit.

Frankenslotting IOs starts paying off better than DOs/SOs at 20/25, Frankenslotting is using the multi-aspect set IOs, eg getting one acc/dam from one set, and one acc/dam from another is often better than slotting 1 acc and 1 dam. See http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Frankenslotting for mor einfo.

The key really is to bid a few days in advance of need. Or bid, and alt.

Patience and lots of inf.


Other than that I slot with SO's all the way till 47 then I slot my io sets and such.

Alternately, head to AE. Play some arcs. Have fun. Save your tickets. Burn a bunch on random Arcane and Tech common salvage. Use those (sell what you don't need) to memorize some recipes - which will be cheaper once you do. Sell the extra crafted IOs you don't need. Play AE some more. Play regular missions, get salvage. Rinse. Repeat.

See my Guides and Tutorials

If you think things are expensive, then that should be a clue to you to sell those things.

Assuming that you're talking about Common IOs, not Set IOs...

- As other people have said, with just a little planning ahead, you can bid and get the salvage and recipes you need at reasonable prices. Or, as you say, buy the ready crafted one. People who are making the IOs for badges often dump them on the market at sell-it-now prices, just to clear out their inventory.

- There is a page on the Paragonwiki which lists salvage for all Common IOs, to save you having to write them down: http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Invention_Cheatsheet. I think you can also open your recipe window, and choose 'Show unowned recipes' to get a list of all the Common IO recipes, which will show you what salvage you need.

- If you craft a certain number of each type and level of Common IO, then you'll get a badge. You'll then be able to craft that IO without a recipe, and for a much lower crafting cost. E.g., if you craft 11 level 35 and 11 level 40 Damage IOs, you get the Arms Dealer Badge, and can then craft those IOs without a recipe, and for roughly 50% crafting cost. You might want to consider designating one character as your badge memorising character, and they can then supply IOs to your other characters. You can find all the details here:
http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Invention_Badges

Also, since I haven't seen it mentioned: you don't NEED to craft IOs. You can get by just fine with SOs. If you want to IO out the character, you can still buy SOs now, and work on getting the IOs in there over time.

My Market Self-Defense guide is here.

If you consider yourself poor: Well, what's "poor"? There are different techniques for making a million inf, ten million inf, or a billion. here is a good start if you have a million or so already; it's hardly the only way, though.

I'm going to explain a couple different ways to scrape up that first million.

1) Sell a single medium or high-level orange salvage. Damn near all of them will go for a million inf, most will go for 1.5 to 3 million at the moment.
2) Bid on nine large accuracy insps for 20,000 or so each. The next time you log in, you will have bought them. Right click to combine three of them into a large "rez" (what is it,a Bounce Back? The Super awaken, anyway. ) List the Bounce Back for 300,000 to 500,000, depending on your patience and optimism level. Do that three times.
3) Look for some salvage you already have that is selling for 100,000 inf or more. List it for 51,000 inf. Collect your 100K.
4) If you have NO salvage, and NO starting cash: Buy level 40-50 set recipes for 101 or 501 inf. Look for confuse, snipe, sleep, slow, stuff like that, with 0 bids and ten or more for sale. Run those recipes to the nearest vendor (in Kings Row, there's one right next door) and sell them for 4000-10,000 each. Repeat until you have a million. It's boring and it sucks and it will take you 20 minutes to an hour, but you only ever have to do it once. Ever.

If you are not in a supergroup yet start your own. It doesn't take much to add a workshop and put in salvage bins to allow you to store salvage until you need it. Between the market storage, vault reserve and your base you should have enough storage so you always have on hand what you need.

Tips

• Figure out what you are going to need and bid early.
• Learn to get by on non-set IOs or even SOs until you build up a nest egg.
• Alignment merits are your friend, both for making money and for getting your stuff. Buying a LoTG +rech with A-Merits might turn a four day, 22 mission investment into half your IO cost or more.
• Create a market alt or two so they can hold the boring bids and sales while you are out gallivanting around (and finding expensive goodies to sell).
• AE can be hugely profitable.
• As you accumulate Inf, store it in lowball bids for things you want. Inf in your wallet is doing two things for you: jack and ****. You can cancel those bids anytime if you need the money. More than once I have gotten things for ridiculously cheap because some idle bid, sitting unnoticed for a month, suddenly filled.
• Remember that adding IOs won't make a boring character fun. Enjoy playing the game.

The "buyout option" is only meaningful in a game where you can have a bid which is high enough to buy something, but won't complete until the auction expires. This is not such a game.

The "buyout option" in CoH is to bid higher.

AoV: When I came to this game, I had similar concerns. I asked in the Market & Inventions forum, people gave me tips on how to do things. Last I checked I had around 2.5 billion loose inf, and I've been playing about five months. I'd probably have a lot more if I were better at keeping track of which toons had stuff going on -- I have about twenty, and most of them have at least something out for bidding or for sale.

Don't forget the option of checking for crafted goods at lowish prices. I list a ton of IOs for 1 inf just to free up space.

The "buy out" for crafted enhancements is to buy Single Origin enhancements from the appropriate store.

Seriously though, the "buy out" for common recipes is to buy them at the invention table. Most of the time you can get it much cheaper on the market but be aware of the table prices. Sometimes the bids go higher and it would be kind of stupid to pay more than bench price for a common recipe.

If you are talking about sets the "buy out" is to earn stupid amounts of Reward or Hero Merits and buy them from their respective vendors. But I find the Market, between the recipe and crafted sections, works well for 90% of what I need and I save the merits for the uniques that aren't available at any price.

The "buy out" for the salvage to craft those recipes is to use AE tickets. It's random for the common salvage but regular play gives you plenty of those. For uncommon and rare salvage it only takes one or two good AE arcs to get all the tickets you need to buy the ones not available for a decent price on the market.

I do agree that knowing what salvage you have on-hand (between personal, base, vault, and market) is kind of a pain but not having the salvage is usually a minor irritation at best since it is easy to acquire .

Yeah, I think the idea that you have to bid on something confuses people. If you see that there are items listed as for sale, that means you CAN buy them right then. You just have to meet their price.

The system where the seller posts his final price, and the buyer has no choice but to meet it is nice, but this system can save you money in the long term. If you take the time to bump your bids up from a lower value, you can usually save. It also means that if you're willing to spend the money, you CAN get it, but you end up spending more than if you either wait a little, or do a little shopping around. (Such as, checking within a range of levels for an Enhancement or Recipe you want)

It's not an auction house, one. Going in thinking it is even remotely resembles one will only lead you to confusion, sorrow and pain.

It's a double blind consignment house. The seller sets the minimum price they are willing to accept and the buyers offer the amount they are willing to pay, not up to. It's walking into the school lunch room and saying "I'll give the first person who will give my a pen with green ink $20". No negotiation. $20 for a pen with green ink. Cash on the barrel head.

You want a buy it now button, offer well above the transaction history. If you want to buy it now for a reasonable price, start low and creep up your bids. The sellers already set the price they are willing to accept. Problem is you have no idea until the transaction is made what they are.

And if they added a buy it now button no one would sell anything for less than the buy it now amount. Why sell for lower when the CH values your item for a much higher price.