Real life 'superheroes' guard Seattle streets from crime
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Posted on: 2010-11-20 01:47 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture
Ooo look target practice for criminals...
Every time one of these stories get posted someone posts 'target practice for criminals' but as far as I know none of these 'superheroes' have been killed yet.
If they're smart about it and stick to just being around, observing, and using their true superpower - calling 911 - they should only be at slightly more risk than any other member of citizens on patrol.
The article does bring up my one concern - wearing a mask doesn't exactly put store clerks, patrollling police, or security guards at ease.
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I recognise a few of these characters from the World Superhero Registry, It seems this new site is a glossier version.
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Not to mention the 10+ years of training that he underwent.|
Originally Posted by _AzA_
[Batman has just fought off Scarecrow and a group of Batman wannabes]
Batman: Don't let me find you out here again. Brian: We're trying to help you! Batman: I don't need help. Dr. Jonathan Crane: Not in my diagnosis! Brian: What gives you the right? What's the difference between you and me? [Batman lowers himself into the Batmobile] Batman: I'm not wearing hockey pads! lulz |
Most of the RL superheroes train for like a few weeks, if at all. Even military training at it's longest is about 14 weeks (for the USMC). There are additional training programs after that, but generally not to the point where you are considered invincible. (Unless you undergo Special Forces training, which I wish even beat cops could undergo......but that would probably make for a vastly reduced police force, as not everyone can complete such harsh training)
Now, if people in the military began training at the earliest possible like the Spartans did, and then decided to become a superhero, that would be an entirely different story.......
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How about the friends i've had who have been regularly training in martial arts for over ten years? Admittedly none of them have ever put on costumes to roam the streets looking for crime...
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Originally Posted by Nightphall
Not to mention the 10+ years of training that he underwent.
Most of the RL superheroes train for like a few weeks, if at all. Even military training at it's longest is about 14 weeks (for the USMC). There are additional training programs after that, but generally not to the point where you are considered invincible. (Unless you undergo Special Forces training, which I wish even beat cops could undergo......but that would probably make for a vastly reduced police force, as not everyone can complete such harsh training) Now, if people in the military began training at the earliest possible like the Spartans did, and then decided to become a superhero, that would be an entirely different story....... |
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so, we've hit a point where a regular guy in a nylon costume with his underwear on the outside can 'legitimately' be called a 'superhero'? really?
maybe a specialhero...... or a blockhero, streethero?
i'm just waiting for the crossdesser superhero 'stiletto' that uses bommerang high heels like the fishthower from the muppets.....
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How about the friends i've had who have been regularly training in martial arts for over ten years? Admittedly none of them have ever put on costumes to roam the streets looking for crime...
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I guess it depends on the training. Like people who teach the martial art the way it was meant to be taught. You had to become a weapon when the government banned weapons back in those days. Lethal strikes, dirty blows, and everything in between.
The watered down competition versions however? I could train in them for 15 years, and it still wouldn't be enough.
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Also depends on the martial art itself.
Judo and Karate can be of use in say, a street brawl but something like Krav Magra (not sure if that is spelt correctly) or Ju-Jitsu (which has a lot of 'this will seriously injure your opponent' moves since it was designed as emergency unarmed combat against someone still using a sword) can be downright lethal.
If you want armed combat, Knife fighting taught in various countries is designed around fighting another dude also armed with a knife and killing or maiming him as quickly as possible.
So yeah depending on the martial art it might do some good.
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This sums it up well. I dont really see the point in doing this. I mean I get the spirit of what they're doing but it rarely helps much in practice. I just shake my head everytime I see one of these stories pop up. If you want to go on patrol in say a neighborhood watch, not wearing an obvious outfit probably makes it easier to catch badguys in the act. Wearing a big neon sign saying you're here to annoy criminals isn't the healthiest or more helpful option. |
"If you want to dress up as a superhero that's great. Go to the conventions." said Mark Jamieson, spokesman for the Seattle Police Department. |
If you're hellbent on fighting crime.....go become a cop. Get some real authority, training and back up to handle the situation since they're likely the people you're going be calling anyways. Unless you're wearing an outfit that's actually granting you some real level of protection than +2 against cold damage (aka a sweater.) then you're probably just putting on something that makes it harder to fight, run or patrol in.
I'm all for people standing up to criminals and not being walked on. This isn't the way to do it.
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Or join the military first......get into Special Forces if you can, and then become a cop. (I know a few real life examples are usually sought after higher organizations, like the FBI, Secret Service, et al......and I know some former Marines have gone on to be detectives or SWAT team members)|
Originally Posted by Lastjustice
This sums it up well. I dont really see the point in doing this. I mean I get the spirit of what they're doing but it rarely helps much in practice. I just shake my head everytime I see one of these stories pop up. If you want to go on patrol in say a neighborhood watch, not wearing an obvious outfit probably makes it easier to catch badguys in the act. Wearing a big neon sign saying you're here to annoy criminals isn't the healthiest or more helpful option.
If you're hellbent on fighting crime.....go become a cop. Get some real authority, training and back up to handle the situation since they're likely the people you're going be calling anyways. Unless you're wearing an outfit that's actually granting you some real level of protection than +2 against cold damage (aka a sweater.) then you're probably just putting on something that makes it harder to fight, run or patrol in. I'm all for people standing up to criminals and not being walked on. This isn't the way to do it. |
I guarantee you'll be much tougher and more experienced than a beat cop who only went through the academy, and nothing before that.
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This is just a viral marketing campaign started by Troy Hickman to promote his upcoming mini-series "Twilight Guardian", available starting in January at all retailers of fine comic books.
Said it once, will say it again. The only fighting these guys do is calling 911(However they do patrol, calling 911 once they spot something that needs attention from the police.), they're not stupid. What they do to be called "Super" is being well, a good person, they mostly help the homeless and those in need, things like that.
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I do the exact same thing these guys do all the time, and get paid for it. It's called "security". 
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I recognize some of these guys from the WWTBASH forums pre and post season 2.
I've always felt the biggest problem with being a superhero is actually finding some crime to fight. Do these guys just wander around downtown hoping to run into a mugger?
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I've become close to a lot of the RLSH people in the last couple of years, by the way, mainly BECAUSE of TG, and they actually do a lot of good. Because it's rare that they're around when a crime occurs, they tend to do a lot of public service stuff like giving food and toiletries to the homeless, walking women to their cars, helping stranded motorists, etc.
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A follow up on the article, apparently the group is named "Rain City Superhero Movement".
I am embarrassed to have a lame superhero name group in my state. They also name off some of the heroes on patrol.
Just a new take on the Guardian Angels. Instead of wearing goofy looking red berets they wear goofy looking costumes.
And before somebody goes off on me. As part of a military uniform the red beret looks good. Worn by somebody in civilian clothes it looks goofy. It's like wandering around wearing an army helmet.
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Well, here's my take: At least they're doing something. How many of you can say that?
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I suppose if he had a billionaires resource's and bulletproof outfits, sure, he could be a superhero.
Our school is located outside of Quantico, we get a lot of FBI (some of them HRT) and other law enforcement, and just by virtue of our owner's reputation, we get a lot of Special Operations people from every outfit you've ever heard of. None of them are unstoppable hand to hand killing machines, and they'd be the first to tell you so.
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