So, why are there no Richters?

Or, without Recluse, Cole absorbed Arachnos, which would make a solid basis for his own forces I'd imagine. After all, he has the head of the Council working for him, not too far fetched an idea.

I think you should judge people by their own actions and their own words, not the collective actions of their dimensional counterparts...

I remember reading that he was. And that was before I'd even run into Mr G. Reading that made me seek out the path which led me to run his arc.

I always thought of Imperious as a demigod, like Hercules. Like a god, but without the pesky arrogance and "I can kill you with my thunderbolt" mentality.

Do we have any proof he's actually good? I mean he's basically suppose to be a Caesar so he's not likely to be any better than Tyrant. The only reason we're helping him is that the Midnighters told us that the time line was changed.

Not sure which mythology you were reading if you got the impression Demigods weren't arrogant. Arrogance was a prerequisite for all Greek heroes.

Yes, but Scythus was responding directly to Ironik's claim of :

So Imperious would count.

Maybe it's just me but I thought Mr G was the Praetorian Agent G (Crimson and Indigos protégées in Faultline).

Of course I just went on the name (and mysterious background of both)

While its not official, it seems pretty clear, from their design, which Mr. G was meant to be the Alt of.

Mea culpa. I completely dropped the ball on that, as I meant to restrict it solely to Cole and not guys like Imperious. Scythus is right in calling me on that.

Reminder to self: post, *then* take meds, not vice versa.

Maybe Mr G just doesn't wear sun block and moisturize, unlike Agent G.



And yeesh, The Centre looks like he should be showing people to their seats in a theatre in that get-up.

It makes more sense that he's an alternative Centre (sorry I refuse to use your backward spelling Americans) given the arcs he gives are to do with media manipulation and the like.

Is the height the clue? The first two are dimensional counterparts and the last one is their steampowered mini-me offspring/minion..?

I think Mr. G is a reference to the G-man - the resemblance to The Center is basically just because there's only one generic "old man" face in this game.

That would make sense except that it's the name of a character that also happens to be a word so in this case Centre is not an acceptable alternative spelling.

Now then all this Incarnate talk specifically regarding Zeus and Hades makes me wonder if the third brother Poseidon has an incarnate.

Don't forget that in the Greek Myths Zeus,Hades and Poseidon are all brothers and largely equal in power.

What about Perseus? From what I took from it he was the son of Zeus and Danaë, thus a demigod and no arrogance.

Strangely, I seem to be the only one who got what Munki was doing here.

Did no one else notice the similarity here to a large percentage of Golden Girl's arguments against something?

Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately.

Actually there are at least 3 Old male faces. My point was more that Mr. G's suite appears to be designed to be evoke The Center, both are in blue and Mr. G's hair even seems to have added height to resemble the Center's hat. While it might be a bit of a stretch I really don't see it as a very big one given how many other Primal characters had their Preatorian versions dropped in. I also don't see why it can't be both The Center and a Half-Life reference.

I don't think GG needs to put her fingers in her ears to avoid listening to logical arguments but yes I got that impresion of Munki's post too.

This is not true. In the simplest terms, infinity does not make impossible things possible, it merely makes unlikely things eventually pop up in quantity. For instance, positive integers are infinite; even positive integers are also infinite. Yet despite having an infinite number of even positive integers, you will not have any that cannot be evenly divisible by 2.

Additionally, the presence "somewhere out there" of an infinite number of improbable things doesn't help you find them if you're limited to taking small untargeted samples. If approximately one in a billion universes has some property Foo you're looking for, if there are infinite universes there are an infinite number with Foo; yet if it takes you an hour to set up to check a single universe with no way to tell if it's Foo until you look, even a determined Mender Silos would not have good odds of having found a Foo. You're better off spending your time trying to develop some sort of handwavy "resonance harmonizer" that specifically targets Foo-like universes.

An additional important issue is that it is NOT clear whether there are infinite dimensions in the CoH multiverse; it is even less clear whether the means of access allow access to all of them. There's some indication from the canon that the number of readily accessible dimension to Portal Corp-style technology is probably "only" in the thousands to tens of thousands, and many of them are comparatively uninteresting (uninhabited, dead, etc.). It isn't clear how much of this is the limitations of their technology and how much of this is a fundamental property of reality. However, the actions of a number of powerful individuals, including some with access to power or knowledge likely to exceed ours, seem to act in a manner that implies that there aren't an infinite number of (comparatively readily) accessible universes. At the very least, the combination of "quantity of universes" and "ease of search for the ones you want" leads to powerful people deciding to change this one rather than "simply" finding another one more to their liking.

Still, that's a one in three chance of making a character that looks similar to the Center if you want someone old, well-dressed and not obviously evil/malevolent/supernatural.

Both are in navy blue, yes, but 1) the Center is wearing a Military formal suit, while Mr G wears an open pinstripe blazer, 2) nary blue is a very generic color for a formal suit. That's like theorising a character is another character's alternate just because both have black sunglasses - not even the same *shape* of black sunglasses.

The Half-Life G-man has an elongated head. The Center has a tall hat. If they wanted to make a character evoke the Center, they'd have given him a tall hat. But they gave him an elongated head instead.

I just don't see it. The Center is the secretive mastermind behind the Council, someone so good at hiding and manipulation that he only appears *once* in all of CoH/V's arcs, and when he does appear it is a *big deal*. And his Praetorian equivalent is... a guy who stands around in a park, has good info, and is utterly forgotten by the time you've hit level 15?