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Well, the content you run that gives you the Incarnate components does not require any exemplaring. Lady Gray TF, Reichsman TF, Statesman TF, Hamidon Raid, Rikti Mothership Raid, Imperious TF, Cathedral of Pain Trial, Apex TF, Tin Mage TF - all of these can be run at level 50. So if you're specifically gunning for Incarnate components, you'll never have to exemplar yourself at all.
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Originally Posted by Pinny
I believe so.
And how often do you exemplar below 50? All this gossiping is about the perfect scenario where you never exemplar down. |
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The only time I ever exemp on my scrapper is for silver mantis SFs and even then I'm not concerned about not getting the alpha slot, I already run that content quite fast.
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Originally Posted by Pinny
I believe so.
And how often do you exemplar below 50? All this gossiping is about the perfect scenario where you never exemplar down. |
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And then after you get everything you want, with extras, then what? I suppose you could have alts specifically for lower level stuff, but some times you just don't have the right side/AT.
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Originally Posted by bAss_ackwards
Well, the content you run that gives you the Incarnate components does not require any exemplaring. Lady Gray TF, Reichsman TF, Statesman TF, Hamidon Raid, Rikti Mothership Raid, Imperious TF, Cathedral of Pain Trial, Apex TF, Tin Mage TF - all of these can be run at level 50. So if you're specifically gunning for Incarnate components, you'll never have to exemplar yourself at all.
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Originally Posted by bAss_ackwards
Well, the content you run that gives you the Incarnate components does not require any exemplaring. Lady Gray TF, Reichsman TF, Statesman TF, Hamidon Raid, Rikti Mothership Raid, Imperious TF, Cathedral of Pain Trial, Apex TF, Tin Mage TF - all of these can be run at level 50. So if you're specifically gunning for Incarnate components, you'll never have to exemplar yourself at all.
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There is a TON of stuff to do at 50, and even better, with the new rewards at the end, much of it can now be repeated more often on the same toon for full rewards.
I promise you, even the hardest hard-core gamer can find a full day of play at level 50 now. I doubt you'd even have to switch characters!
People who are whining about I19 haven't thought this through.
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And after that, I still continue to run such activities. It is profoundly easy for me to have fun at level 50 for most, if not all of my current play-time session. I'm always running these high level TFs with my buddies. Don't be so narrow-minded about it, Pinny. It's obvious that folks always ran all of those TFs for Merits, Vanguard Merits, and Hami-Os. Why would my 50's suddenly stop doing that when I get my desired Alpha powers? Hell, I don't even have to stop gathering Incarnate components, because I would still be saving up towards the Rare and Very Rare boosts. Which I want. Badly.|
Originally Posted by Pinny
And then after you get everything you want, with extras, then what? I suppose you could have alts specifically for lower level stuff, but some times you just don't have the right side/AT.
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That said, I've never had any problems with exemplaring my builds, which are only tailored for level 50 play. I have never made myself a leveling-build, or a build that still retains most of the set bonuses when exemplaring down. My characters are built well enough that without set bonuses they still dominate the battlefield on lower level content.
Oh! Yeah, I forgot about that mauk2! I've been running level 50 Tips as well, getting Hero Merits for several of my level 50 characters. They have been very profitable thus far.
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Seeing as how math makes my head hurt, and I mean nose bleed hurt, I have a question. If one were to have a /reg built for recharge, and were to go for the spiritual paragon, how close would that bring us to perma IH? Or am I still dreaming that will happen again one day?
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Originally Posted by Werner
Figure out what the 89.9% is BEFORE ED. Add 22% to that. Then apply the appropriate ED calculation:
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Before ED After ED E < 70% E 70% ≤ E < 90% 70 + (0.9 × (E - 70)) 90% ≤ E < 100% 88 + (0.7 × (E - 90)) 100% ≤ E 95 + (0.15 × (E - 100)) So your 89.9% I assume is the Hecatomb set, which pre-ED is 92.75%. Add 22% for 114.75%. Apply the ED formula, so 95 + (0.15 * (114.75% - 100)) = 97.2125%. Add 11%, so 108.2125% recharge enhancement. |
Willpower has more passive regen than Regen does. Who thought that was a good idea?
Can we get a fix for Energy Melee instead of more new sets?
I think that getting Perma-Instant Healing is impossible due to the Recharge cap. I remember hearing that to get Instant Healing with 100% uptime would require some ridiculous amount of Recharge.
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You will never be able to make Instant Healing permanent. Even at the recharge cap of 400%.
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Originally Posted by Gobbledygook
Seeing as how math makes my head hurt, and I mean nose bleed hurt, I have a question. If one were to have a /reg built for recharge, and were to go for the spiritual paragon, how close would that bring us to perma IH? Or am I still dreaming that will happen again one day?
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Would a Spiritual Radial 33% healing affect the regen in Rise to the Challenge? or the +health in High Pain Tolerance or is it strictly just healing powers? If its just healing then I guess I might go Nerve Radial then.
I believe it will enhance all of them. +HP, +Regen, and +Heal.
Let me double check on that.
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This is what it shows in the info-tab for a Spiritual Radial Boost:
+22.00% strength to healing on self
Ignores buffs and enhancements
unresistable
+22.00% strength to regeneration rate on self
Ignores buffs and enhancements
unresistable
+22.00% strength to AttrHitPoints on self
Ignores buffs and enhancements
unresistable
+11.00% strength to healing on self
Ignores buffs and enhancements
unresistable
+11.00% strength to regeneration rate on self
Ignores buffs and enhancements
unresistable
+11.00% strength to AttrHitPoints on self
Ignores buffs and enhancements
unresistable
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After that I am confident in that a large majority of players choosing the spiritual tree.
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I think a lot will. It would be interesting to check back in a couple of months to see what folks have chosen for their characters. I know there are some AoE heavy characters that I have that really could use Cardiac to enable non-stop combat.
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Originally Posted by bAss_ackwards
there are some AoE heavy characters that I have that really could use Cardiac to enable non-stop combat.
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(OK, I suspect this is less helpful on a team. Stupid team takin' all my skittles.
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Uh... can't you switch between different buffs at will once you have them?
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yes, but I think it as like a 5 min cool down.
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Originally Posted by Cyber_naut
Uh... can't you switch between different buffs at will once you have them?
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Plus you may want to build around a specific alpha boost, targeting a specific recharge level with the spiritual alpha boost included, for instance, and maybe short changing some of your slotting since you'd be affected by ED at a lower level of enhancement in the powers themselves.
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Originally Posted by BrokenPrey
yes, but I think it as like a 5 min cool down.
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Exactly, now with the very rare s.b.a.s. I can effectively two slot Hasten and only lose 6% enhanced recharge and now free up a slot. Which will probably go into Combat Jumping and I'll be able to slot in another set of Shield Wall for more +hp |
Originally Posted by Werner
Plus you may want to build around a specific alpha boost, targeting a specific recharge level with the spiritual alpha boost included, for instance, and maybe short changing some of your slotting since you'd be affected by ED at a lower level of enhancement in the powers themselves.
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. I love math 
Edit: Hmm looks like I'll be keeping that third slot in Hasten. The VRAS removes 11 seconds from its recharge...
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I tried using this formula to calculate the change in recharge for Soul Drain when slotting an AS and I don't think I did it correctly.|
Originally Posted by Werner
What do you mean, the change in the recharge time itself?
Recharge Time = Base Recharge Time / (100% + Total Recharge Enhancement and Bonuses) So let's say you have Hasten and +85% recharge from set bonuses: Recharge Time = 15 seconds / (100% + 126.2% + 70% + 85%) = 3.935 seconds |
Base recharge: 120s
Set bonuses: 81.6%
Hasten:70%
Enhanced Recharge:131.33%
So 120/(100+131.33+70+81.6)=.313....... Am I supposed to convert the percentages to decimals and then divide?
Edit: I divided by 100 and got 31.3s for my answer, that seems a lot more realistic. Nice to know that a very rare AS will lop off 3 seconds from Soul Drain's recharge.
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Originally Posted by Santorican
I tried using this formula to calculate the change in recharge for Soul Drain when slotting an AS and I don't think I did it correctly.
Base recharge: 120s Set bonuses: 81.6% Hasten:70% Enhanced Recharge:131.33% So 120/(100+131.33+70+81.6)=.313....... Am I supposed to convert the percentages to decimals and then divide? Edit: I divided by 100 and got 31.3s for my answer, that seems a lot more realistic. Nice to know that a very rare AS will lop off 3 seconds from Soul Drain's recharge. |
like Werner put
15/(1+1.262+.7+.85)
15/(3.812)
3.935
So yours would be
120/(1+1.3133+.7+.816)
120/(3.8293)
31.337
which you got
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Assuming we're using the same slot for 33% recharge, I wanted to check to see what the new requirement for perma-hasten would be.
Check my math?
Before ED~~~~ After ED
100% ≤ E 95 + (0.15 × (E - 100))
3 slotted hasten: 99.08% -> 127.2% pre-ED, +22%
95 + (.15 (149.2-100)) = X + 11* = 113.38% enhancement value
Hasten:
Rech = base/(1+ Rech enhance + hasten + sets)
(recharge wanted = duration)
120s = 450s/(1+1.1338 + .7 + X)
X = 91.62
roughly 92% in sets? Rather than 112.5%?
Am I right? Because that's awesome for just the uncommon slot.
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I hate to be the bringer of bad news... but Willpower sucks!!! you're better off rolling a regen
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I'd like to know how drastically the Very Rare 45% + Ignores 2/3 of diminishing returns Alpha boost affects how much global Recharge is needed for Perma-Hasten.
And yes, that is so freakin' awesome just for an uncommon!
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Originally Posted by bAss_ackwards
And after that, I still continue to run such activities. It is profoundly easy for me to have fun at level 50 for most, if not all of my current play-time session. I'm always running these high level TFs with my buddies. Don't be so narrow-minded about it, Pinny. It's obvious that folks always ran all of those TFs for Merits, Vanguard Merits, and Hami-Os. Why would my 50's suddenly stop doing that when I get my desired Alpha powers?
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Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
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Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
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2/3 of 45% is 30%, so I think it's as simple as it lowering the global recharge needed by 30%. (I'm assuming you retain 3 recharge slots in it, and that the 15% of the Alpha Boost that is affected by ED doesn't meaningfully move the slotted value. I didn't check that, though.)
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I'd like to know how drastically the Very Rare 45% + Ignores 2/3 of diminishing returns Alpha boost affects how much global Recharge is needed for Perma-Hasten.
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American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
I exemplar down pretty often, honestly. Several times a week to be sure. Thus I am unlikely to tune my builds to their optimal assumptions for pure level 50 play.
Now, I could set up a cheap-o alternate build that I used to exemplar play. If I didn't trick it out to the max it'd probably be worth doing. The dual build system hasn't appealed to me much previously, though. I may be too lazy to bother.
Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA