How would you make CoH lower lvl content more fun?

Lord_Apollon · 11-09-2010 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Jet_Boy

* In development, test every new encounter using solo controllers/doms. If you develop with IOed out, min/maxed Brutes or Scrappers in mind that's all your going to end up with. Every mission should be able to be completed - with a little thought -by any Archetype, solo or teamed

I'd not use a dom, as my dom is right there next to my blaster as a butt kicker. I am using instead a brand new gravity controller for it.

Lord_Apollon · 11-09-2010 12:32 PM

Alright, the redone Natural origin arc for Galaxy City is ready:

ELITE arc - Galaxy City REDEUX

Arc ID: 466407

Let me know of any ways to improve it. I'm about to go back and tinker with my DATA arc. Just realized I forgot a souvenier.

Megajoule · 11-09-2010 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Torrynt

Honestly, start characters at level 20. Nuke Galaxy, Perez and Skyway.

Why stop there? Why not just start everyone at 50?

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Faces of the City

Memphis_Bill · 11-09-2010 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Torrynt

Honestly, start characters at level 20. Nuke Galaxy, Perez and Skyway.

I blow through the early content because having 1-2 attacks, perhaps no AOE, and glaring holes in your primary and secondary is not fun to me. I want to play a hero and enjoy playing a reasonably fleshed out character.

My other thought is get rid of levels and make all mobs like monsters, IE even con to everyone. Minions across the board are white, lt's are yellow, and bosses are orange. Up it one in hazard zones and let people custom set in their own missions. Your levels are adding powers to your build, but then if you really like the content in Talos, you can do it. You want to experience Croatoa at lvl 1, enjoy!

It also solves the problem of developing content. It's for everyone and rewards can be set appropriately.

How about "no." Yeah, I think "no" covers it pretty well.

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Techbot Alpha · 11-09-2010 07:59 PM

Re-writing of Rick Davies (new arc; Grinding Gears) has hit a snag due to AE refusing to co-operate on a mission objective. Were it so easy...

I swear, if I had the Devs tools I could probably re-write Atlas parks entire contact list in a week or two. Same for Galaxy, maybe three for Kings.

If some schmuck like me can churn out an actual story arc in an evening and a day, what excuse is there for the Pre-Paragon Studios content still being here?

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GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

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NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

TyrantMikey · 11-10-2010 06:13 AM

Any introductory contact in a zone would be moved so that it is closer to a tram or gate. You wouldn't have to cross the zone to get to that contact.

I'd ditch the code that resets your contact to the detective for a zone when you first enter a zone. The number of times that's sent me off in the wrong direction is incalculable at this point.

I'd have detectives give you their cell numbers. You wouldn't have to run back to them to do bank missions.

I'd rewrite the content for your starting contacts so that they were actual story arcs appropriate to your origin. As things are right now, there's no connection between your origin and the missions you're given. And, I'd offer a badge and/or merits for completing the arc.

For characters that are in support roles, I'd grant them a diminishing damage buff from the lower levels up until about level ten (negotiable). This would only apply while they are soloing, and serves to mitigate how long it takes them to defeat foes. So controllers and defenders can actually survive on their own and level at a rate that is almost on par with their more offensive counterparts.

I'd add new types of mission objectives. Puzzles, traps, and so on. Make the players think. Add more to the game than just smash-and-bash.

With every free issue, I'd slowly add new textures to the office, warehouse, and cave maps. We don't have to introduce entirely new maps for players to perceive that there's new content. Slap a new coat of paint on it, and the game will feel fresh and new.

Bring back power proliferation. (Admittedly, this is only deferred, given higher development priorities, but it would be nice to see some powers proliferated again.)

And finally, I'd eliminate blue caves. But that's just a pure spite thing. Largely because I absolutely abhor The Cake Room.

Lord_Apollon · 11-10-2010 09:01 AM

Alright, taken some feedback and tweaked my arcs. Both my ELITE and DATA arcs have been updated. DATA now has some more flavor of enemies added as well.

Lord_Apollon · 11-15-2010 07:36 PM

I am buying the additional 5 MA slots this weekend. Working on the arcs in the meantime, so hope to have them up this sat/sun.

Chotic_Blue · 11-18-2010 05:05 AM

Stuff I'd like to see.

Red Side: Give a choice in starting locals. Either Port Oaks, or Mercy. Make both zones for levels 1 to 15. Both Zones are fairly good sized and can both stand some level expansion. Their's so much in both zones, and neither are fully utilized. Also expand the level range of content for Cap to 10-20.

Blue Side: Content and mission revamp/rewright. As many have pointed out the early story arcs are starting to show their age, and could use fresh dialogue.

Lord_Apollon · 11-18-2010 06:17 PM

More tweaks to the DATA arc. More variety of enemy groups, mixed map, and cleaned up dialog. Starting work on the Prince Kiros Nandelu arc next.

HardRider · 11-20-2010 10:42 AM

Villains just need so much attention its insane, and heroes prop just content update i think.

Techbot Alpha · 11-20-2010 10:45 AM

Azuria's arc is pretty much finalised. Feedback so far has been good. Sadly, Uni work has interupted further AE 'work', as it were, so the Galaxy revamps that Appolon is working on are te only re-vamps for now.

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Originally Posted by Zwillinger

GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon

NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

Lord_Apollon · 11-20-2010 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha

Azuria's arc is pretty much finalised. Feedback so far has been good. Sadly, Uni work has interupted further AE 'work', as it were, so the Galaxy revamps that Appolon is working on are te only re-vamps for now.

Everyone seems to love my ELITE arc, but DATA still is just not there. It works, but it's not great.

Quinch · 11-21-2010 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Shadestorm

I'd create a series of 1-10 MA arcs, advertise them, and tell people there's an alternate levelling path.

If I was going to fix it, that's what I'd do.

Maybe I should.

That's what I did.

An open letter to NCsoft

newchemicals · 11-22-2010 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Hot_Head_Mike

I decided to make a thread to see what people would do to make lower lvl CoH content better. As we all know the lower lvl stuff is very old and generic. What I would do is add in more Boss type villains that aren't just standard issue. Like include more Rogue Gallerys. Also I like the cut scenes, they are generally more plentiful in CoV mission content. So what would you guys suggest?

I have an easy way to get lower levels played more and its summed up in two words. "Better Loot"

H: Blaster 50, Defender 50, Tank 50, Scrapper 50, Controller 50, PB 50, WS 50
V: Brute 50, Corruptor 50, MM 50, Dominator 50, Stalker 50, AW 50, AS 50
Top 4: Controller, Brute, Scrapper, Corruptor
Bottom 4: (Peacebringer) way below everything else, Mastermind, Dominator, Blaster
CoH in WQHD

Chad Gulzow-Man · 11-22-2010 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha

The three glowies that can be found around the map are purely optional. But taking down each one will knock out one of his shields. Hell have some in-built resistance to all damage as an EB, and each layer of Shield will grant him additional resistances. Taking out all three may take more time, but it also makes him an easier fight, especially solo. Each artefact is guarded by a boss, who scales as normal.

Can you actually do stuff like this in the AE now?

Main Hero: Chad Gulzow-Man (Victory) 50, 1396 Badges
Main Villain: Evil Gulzow-Man (Victory) 50, 1193 Badges
Mission Architect arcs: Doctor Brainstorm's An Experiment Gone Awry, Arc ID 2093

COMPLETE PARAGON MARKET LISTING

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Lord_Apollon · 11-23-2010 10:32 PM

SERAPH has been completed, a complete redesign around todays CoH. No Vahzilok, primarily because those guys are the hardest to handle for anyone at level 1-5. 5 missions of them? Overwhelming. I avoided anyone who would run SERAPH due to this for years.

So, here is my replacement SERAPH arc: 470341