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When will this be available on the Eu test server?
Probably never. EU Test Server is being taken over for I19 Closed Beta for EUers.



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Love the new stuff!

I agree - I think the wrenches should go. I think the tarot cards should have random alternate travel patterns and that the runes should be more pronounced. The darker custom power colors let them show nicely but if you use the bright or normal colors they get overpowered and you can barely see them.

Steam jets, sparks, etc. should be a bit slower in my opinion - probably most of those types should be slower. Steam jets should last a little longer. Runes and Tarots could use a non smoke variation. Secondary colors for leaves, tarots, thunderhead.

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Auras:

Atomic - Looks cool, a little too fast but that is arguable... The Fist option looks awesome, can be magic looking! Definitely all around aura...

Bio Plasma - Looks like fire to me. It's actually better than Fiery Aura.

Leaves - Looks okay to me. Needs a secondary color if I'm being too hard.

Runes - My favorite of all. Needs to have a non smoke option and it's probably too fast for me too.

Sparks - This is awesome. What is "Snowy Fist and Eyes - Combat"?

Steam Jets - Looks fine. Too fast?

Tarot Cards - Has potential... I hate the smoke, should put a no smoke option. The fist option is good, especially when you have a character who's using paper as your power. Too fast. Should put an option where the cards glow...

Thunderhead - Looks cool, needs a secondary color. eyes option will be a big hit, totally better than Electric Aura Eyes option.

Toxic Vapor - Better than Smoky Aura and the other smoke options. Good alternate, looks like a good quality version of any kind of smoky auras.

Capes:

Impervium Mantle - ooo shiny! Must have ultra mode, but I'm in medium settings and it's still shiny. The upper part of cape is faded to connect the top part, a good execution but could be better... The back detail has no shine, there is another mantle that is double sided though.

Spliced Cape - Oh boy that is so disgusting I can't look at it for long, which is good thing I think. It looks real nicely done with the art. *Covers eyes*

Cloak of the Eighth Circle - One sided shine, I guess I'm not crazy about it. I can see many people use it for a specific costume theme. The cape is better looking at light colors.

Autumnal Cloak - Love it, except for the top part. Nice job on the leaves. The top part makes it look cheap.

Unified Field Facade - Looks like this will be popular, even though I'm not really a fan of tech stuff. Please remove the 2 wrench looking stuff on the top part and it will complete the look.
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Full body auras that are full body:

The legacy auras created full body auras by having little auras at all the skeletal nodes. It's nice to see the new full body auras which are fully full-body and go in a seamless head-to-toe animation.

The Leaves are a excellent example of this. Plus, they have a pseudo-physics quality such that they trail behind you when you move. I say 'pseudo-physics' because unlike real physics object -- like the rose petals from the rosepetals emote -- they aren't affected by in-game 'wind.' While running Hurricane, the rose petals will get picked up and orbit you, but the leaves from the Leaves Emote won't.

One would expect the Tarot Cards to do the same, but they don't. The full body version of the Tarot Cards are locked-animation to the movement of the body and that makes them look horrible. E.g., as you run, you bob up and down and that's exactly what these supposedly floating cards do... bob up and down. But strangely, if one chooses the fist and head version of the Tarot Cards, they *do* float away when you move. Very strange. The full body version should be changed so that the cards are not locked to body motion.

Another problem with true full body auras is that they move too quickly (with the exception of Leaves). Whether its Firefly, Tarot, or Runes, they move a lot faster than you'd expect: Is there an invisible industrial fan following me?

And another issue with the full body auras (excepting Leaves) is that they're all helical. That sort of looks OK with Firefly since insects do move like that and follow each other like that, but it doesn't look good when the Runes or Tarot cards do that. I'd like to see the full body Tarot cards blow upward and descend like a fountain. I'd like to see the Runes rotate in a cylinder than follow a helical arc.

(Suggestion for the future: A double helical chromosomal aura!)


Un-lock-step the animations

When one puts Tarot Cards on the hair and fists, the three animation points all animate in sync with each other which gives it a mechanistic look rather than a more natural or organic look. E.g., when running with those three nodes active with Tarot Cards, rather than have a trail of cards behind you, there are 'puffs' of cards as all three nodes emit and leave behind cards at exactly the same time. It would be nice if they weren't in lock-step sync.


Love the Tarot Sparkles!

The old Sparkles Aura blink in static placement. The sparkles in the Tarot Aura float and move. It would be nice to have floaty, Las Vegas, champagne sparkles as a separate aura or an an addition to the Sparkles Aura.



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* Bio Plasma aura, Female model at least: effect "Hair" is incorrectly the same as "Fists and Hair" (also affects Combat version)

Objective:

Subjective:
* Thunderhead is astoundingly cool; it desperately calls for being able to use two colors however.
* Bio Plasma also looks really good; I'll probably be using this instead of the existing fire for most things.
* The Body effect on Tarot Cards should probably swirl slower, or possibly have more cards. This is less of a problem on any of the other effects (Hair, Fists, etc.) because the vertical area covered is much smaller
* Tarot would also strongly benefit from a two-color option, or a "on clear" one at least.
* Runes could also use a somewhat slower swirl for Body, and perhaps a slight increase in opacity.
* Something about the way Toxic Vapor interacts with the system for what goes in front of what looks odd, more so than other effects such as Bio Plasma. I can't really pin down exactly why, but the face and front of the hands seems to have a much sharper "out in front" effect.
* Could we get a "More Leaves" option, like some of the existing auras come in milder and stronger versions? The Body effect also could slow down a bit.

Tested only in creator so far, more later hopefully.


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I've just had a quick look through these, and the auras really are pretty spectacular - the head + fists combination actually looks more impressive than the full body one for some of them.

EDIT: Things like the Tarot Cards only going around the head, or the Thunderhead one for the full body plus the eyes also look awesome.


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Atom on "eyes" looks like just another glowing eyes.


 

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Random and small feedback for now. Might I say when I color the leaves black or red...it looks AWESOME and tickles my goth fancy!



 

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Atom on "eyes" looks like just another glowing eyes.

How many slots do you have used up Apo?



 

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The steam jets do need to have longer bursts. I also agree the runes could use a little more opacity. I tested them on my fire blaster (hands and eyes) and I could not see the runes while the blast animation was going. The goal was for him to look like he is casting a spell.
I agree it would be nice if the bursts were a bit longer.



 

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Loving the auras and capes but I agree with the others the wrenches def need to go. It would be nice if we could have two colors on the auras.


 

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Unified Field Facade is awesome... I must have this!



Leave my wrenches alone! :P
I agree. The Unified Field Facade Cape looks much better in game than it looked in the video. On the other hand, I think it would look better if those "wrench" things were a) gone or b) longer (so as to look less like a wrench).

The Impervium Mantle Cape has a grid-like texture, which I did not notice in the video. I would like to see a clean, non-textured version of it.

I'm very unlikely to use the Spliced Cape, but for what it's supposed to be, it looks good.

Both the Cloak of the Eighth Circle Cape and Autumnal Capeare very well done, and should have lots of uses.

For me, though, the auras absolutely steal the show.

Atomic Aura is every bit as cool as I thought it would be. It should work with concepts covering a very broad spectrum. I'd love to see a "single atom" option.

Runes Aura is a potential game-changer for character's with magical origin. Setting it to "combat" for one or both fists lets any standard power look like it's a spell being cast. I foresee wide-spread usage, especially since you can use it this way straight from level one. Should make those to whom character concept is important very happy.

Tarot Cards Aura has some of the same potential uses as Runes, but I don't like it quite as much.

The tech Steamjets and Sparks Auras are nice, subtle add-ons.

Bio Plasma Aura
, Toxic Vapors Aura and Cryogenic Aura are similar to some existing auras, but IMO look a bit better and more refined.

Love the Leaves Aura. It may have some limited applications, but it's also very unique.

I'm on the fence regarding the Thunderhead Aura. It has great potential, but really screams for dual coloring. Alternatively, I'd like to see the cloud effect a bit less pronounced, and the lighting part perhaps emphasized more. As it stands, very few color choices end up not heavily obscuring the character, and dulling the lightning flashes.

This is all based upon my impressions on playing with them on test for a limited time.


 

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For the Impervium cape, the secondary color has no effect on the cape; the lines on the cape are part of the primary color selection. Please give the player direct control of the line color. My personal reason is that I do not like the lines on the cape and would make the primary and secondary color the same so that the cape would be a single, solid color.


[Edited, because my graphics settings were just slightly different on Test. But still, finally give us a simple metallic skin texture like the Arachnos Widows have and make it available for all characters at creation and allow all the patterns with it, including adding the "Full" pattern for gloves that is currently only available when using the "Full" texture.]



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Sparks The Eye option includes both an eyeglow and a sparking effect. Could we get a second version without the eyeglow?

Tarot and Thunderhead Sexy. Is there a way we could select separate colors for the card/glow and the cloud/lightning?

Autumnal Cloak The leaves are a bit too shiny.

Impervium Mantle Could we have the option of adding a second texture, a la the Electron pattern?


 

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Loving the auras and capes but I agree with the others the wrenches def need to go. It would be nice if we could have two colors on the auras.
^this.

Especially for Thunderhead...

But the auras are very kewl.

PS ditch the wrenches on that tech cape preeze. kthxubai


 

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I like many of the options this pack will provide. I don't like everything, but I like enough of it that I'll definitely be getting it.

I understand why the Spliced Cape, Cloak of the Eighth Circle and Autumnal Cloak can't easily be made in "short" versions but it's seem like it would have been relatively easy to have gotten a short version of the Impervium Mantle and Unified Field Cloak.

And yes, I'll also suggest the "wrenches" on the Unified Field Cloak be removed.


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Love most of these. The stuff I don't love I'm sure someone else will. Can't wait to buy the pack.


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Is the pack not supposed to affect VEAT costumes? On the live servers, all my VEATs' other costumes and new characters can access the aura, but the Arachnos costume has no such luck. I was really hoping to get my pink Tarot Card aura from my main costume onto my Night Widow outfit.


 

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Is the pack not supposed to affect VEAT costumes? On the live servers, all my VEATs' other costumes and new characters can access the aura, but the Arachnos costume has no such luck. I was really hoping to get my pink Tarot Card aura from my main costume onto my Night Widow outfit.
Weird...you might want to bug that b/c when Thunderhead leaked on the live servers my Bane was able to access it.



 

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Love every single one! my concepts has broaden to new heights. I agree...the wrenches on the cape? Thats a no go for me as well! Everything else is just gravy. I will be getting this as soon as its available.




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Weird...you might want to bug that b/c when Thunderhead leaked on the live servers my Bane was able to access it.
I'll assume for now that the Arachnos costume isn't supposed to have special auras and capes. We shall see.

Irritates me a little though, since I have the Origins pack from Twitter code, and I can't access the special auras with just that costume.


 

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I looked these over briefly last night. I have to admit I was rolling my eyes when this pack was announced, it seemed like another "small" pack, sort of like the Party Pack, and I was not a fan of the idea of yet another small pack that could have been folded into something else.

However the video got me interested but it doesn't nearly do this stuff justice.

The capes are fantastic looking, easily the best in the game so far. And the Auras.... Wow. Those auras, also the best in the game so far IMO. I think every aura except leaves jumped out at me as being insanely appropriate for 2 or more of my alts. And leaves, well it's not appropriate for any current chars, but I'll be making one that it'll work for.

Great pack guys, these pieces and auras are gorgeous


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I like the wrenches on that cape, you leave those alone, it gives the cap a great feel.


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