Halloween Event; It's like the Jerk Store had a sale on their no. 1 all time best seller


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Since Halloween has come live, been finding the ToT/H-Tip cycle to be a very good source of inf, purples, recipes, and rare salvage. And in addition to that, a very good way to meet Victory's more sociable members. And by sociable, I mean those without social skills.

I've petitioned three people for language, one/two starred ten or twelve people and have put a similar number on ignore.

The common way this has been going:
My team at level 50 is at a set of double doors, fighting for a while.
Random person or three comes up, almost always not at level 50, and starts attacking the mobs we're spawning.
I'll ask politely in local or tells for them to go to another door.
They'll respond in broadcast (ALWAYS broadcast) with claims that I don't own the server, they were there first, I'm a noob, I have no right to tell them how to play, or with theories on my sexuality (these are the ones that usually result in petitions).
Internet stupidity fight ensues.

I really don't understand these types of people. They really seem to come across as truly believing that THEY'RE the ones being wronged. That their rights are being infringed on by someone DARING ask that they change their behavior.

And the thing is? 95 percent of these people have been level 47 or lower. Not their natural level; that's what they're sk'ed up to (besides the team leader, obviously). Our doors are spawning 52-53's. Any time they click the doors, we one shot what comes out. Our spawns they're not even damaging. They can't be getting any xp what so ever on these actions, and yet they are dead set at doing them just because they were asked to stop.



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This same reason is why I grew tired of leading mothership raids. People either don't listen, want to argue or intentionally act like words that I would get in trouble for writing here. I think people think you are being rude by correcting them, but really you are just trying to help THEM not look bad.


 

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This same reason is why I grew tired of leading mothership raids. People either don't listen, want to argue or intentionally act like words that I would get in trouble for writing here. I think people think you are being rude by correcting them, but really you are just trying to help THEM not look bad.
Here's the thing; in a way, I could slightly understand someone acting badly if I was telling them what to do or adding insults to what was otherwise a reasonable request. A lot of people (for whatever reason) don't like being told what to do, even if they're doing something wrong. But if someone says in local, "Could you please go to another door? Our team is already using this one." I can't imagine the thought process that would cause the person respond in broadcast with insults.

That's how half of these encounters played out. I'm using local or tells and they're responding in nothing but broadcast. Not sure if it's a desire to troll me into getting in a public fight with them or if it's just a further indication of their ignorance of the game and what's acceptable behavior; that they don't even know the difference between local and broadcast and that people in the zone are only seeing their comments. And that it makes them look.... Crazy.

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But you have to admit it's funny watching someone log off in a huff because 2 Robot/Trap Masterminds are rocking the socks off of some doors with little effort. Then an hour or so later watch that same person log on and see the same group still going at it only better because there is more people on the team. Good times... I love you Hamster, you bring delicious whiners to the yard regularly. Something about Hamster seems to bring out the worst in people, I wonder why?


 

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Ok, I admit that guy was hilarious.

(backgroup, techno, me, and maybe 3-5 others were ToT'ing, due to the fact we were both bots/traps, we were covering both sides of the apartments the Cove marker in PI. then this logs in, level 43 or so, and starts to flip out on us for "taking over the whole square." didn't ask to join us (there was room on the team), didn't ask for one of the doorways, just started flipping out and trying to poach us. the mobs we were spawning were +8 to +10 to him and our mines were one shotting OUR level 50+ spawns, much less his level 43's.)


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Here's the thing; in a way, I could slightly understand someone acting badly if I was telling them what to do or adding insults to what was otherwise a reasonable request. A lot of people (for whatever reason) don't like being told what to do, even if they're doing something wrong. But if someone says in local, "Could you please go to another door? Our team is already using this one." I can't imagine the thought process that would cause the person respond in broadcast with insults.
I know how it can be tempting to fight back, and try not feel or look like a wuss if you think someone is calling you out, but....is it really that hard to walk away and use one of the other 8,000,000,000,000,000 doors in the zone? For **** sake, how many buildings in PI have a set of 2+ doors on them? Isn't there one directly across from those apartments? I think this boggles my mind more than them getting on your case for asking nicely to begin with. But then again, if they can't even kill the mobs they are trying to steal, me looking for some kind of logic seems kind of foolish


 

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Maybe it's the same dude over and over on different accounts, getting revenge for a SatHam ITF gone bad?


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Maybe it's the same dude over and over on different accounts, getting revenge for a SatHam ITF gone bad?
Not unless he has like ten+ accounts; was checking/entering player notes for each person. Don't recall having any ITF's go bad. Maybe all the people I've kicked from Sara Moore task forces renamed themselves and were hanging out in PI to make themselves look stupid.


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Speaking of arguments, we just had a 10 minute debate on how to end the MoITF we just did while in mission. But at least we still got the badge :P


 

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*blink* Wow.. Just... watering the owl has to be one of the coolest random pictures I've seen in while. Where on earth did you find that one?


 

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Don't recall having any ITF's go bad.
Not that I've been on any of them (it's been months since the last time I did an ITF), but I've heard epic stories about some of the ITFs you've led ending up with over 200 deaths.

Anyway, I'll stop derailing the thread now.


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Not that I've been on any of them (it's been months since the last time I did an ITF), but I've heard epic stories about some of the ITFs you've led ending up with over 200 deaths.

Anyway, I'll stop derailing the thread now.
Not likely. Not even the all blaster ITF went that high. Hell, the only death count that I could think of in the 200's was a Quaterfield in which the deathcount went that high, mainly due to the team having to fight six to eight spawns of +2ish rularuu inside a CoT prison.


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Another problem in similar vein.

We have a mixed group 41-49. We find with the 49 leading, the 41/42 are not getting costumes and H-tips. We have the block of 4 doors in PI and have had them for 20 mins. We switch to the 42 leading and all are getting H-tips and costumes.

A couple of 50s turn up and start getting us killed by releasing 53s and running away just to get possession of that set of doors.


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Not likely. Not even the all blaster ITF went that high. Hell, the only death count that I could think of in the 200's was a Quaterfield in which the deathcount went that high, mainly due to the team having to fight six to eight spawns of +2ish rularuu inside a CoT prison.


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I dunno. I could believe it.

Closest I could come to that I was personally apart of / was my idea, was this. (90% were Shamster's and Penny's *shakes head*)

Also, not really seeing a lot of what is typical of a run-in with Shamster....and I've been teaming off and on with the lovable furry one for a bit during this. Did have one guy in Gville come running through the doors I was staked at a couple of times, killing the stuff I was already fighting and then running off. He stopped after I pointed out his indiscretions in local. Same dude also was asking if the GM spawn was in Gville while using broadcast and responding to others using broadcast. *shrug*


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Another problem in similar vein.

We have a mixed group 41-49. We find with the 49 leading, the 41/42 are not getting costumes and H-tips. We have the block of 4 doors in PI and have had them for 20 mins. We switch to the 42 leading and all are getting H-tips and costumes.

A couple of 50s turn up and start getting us killed by releasing 53s and running away just to get possession of that set of doors.
Apparently there's a bug. People sidekicked aren't getting the costume temp powers. They will still get badge credit towards getting costumes, they just won't get the powers themselves. However, if you already have one, including the perma ones that you might have purchased or won in one of the contests, you can get h-tips.


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This same reason is why I grew tired of leading mothership raids. People either don't listen, want to argue or intentionally act like words that I would get in trouble for writing here. I think people think you are being rude by correcting them, but really you are just trying to help THEM not look bad.
You know, on that... Had a thing in PI the other night, took a break from ToT'ing to do a banner event in zone. Now, as everyone knows, the preferred method of dealing with banners is:
  • Split up to all four banners.
  • Whole zone converges on a single banner once they become vulnerable.
  • Move on from banner to banner.

This way, everyone gets the badges and the banners go down more efficiently.

So the other night, everything is going good, one banner down, move on to the second, and all of a sudden no.3 is down while the rest of the zone was at no.2. Now, there's always a few people not paying attention and they try to solo a banner. But to take down a banner that quickly, you need a full team. Apparently this full team decided to, well, take down a banner by themselves.

When asked about it on broadcast, they immediately turned to insults/flames/etc. They kept repeating the common justifications for bad behavior; we have no right to tell them what to do, it's an open event, there will be another event so if you wanted the banner of fiends badge just run this again, etc.

And as with the other instances, this doesn't make any freaking sense. They screwed themselves out of three badges and thirty people out of one.

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Weird. Usually the big events can be okay when you have someone willing to lead in broadcast, and people will follow it. But I have had one Rikti Raid where one team was off doing whatever the heck they felt like the whole time, so whatever... some people are idiots. Perhaps we are getting more idiots since there are more people playing again: the better players are usually those who have been around for awhile (not saying new players stink, just that along with good new players come new ******* that we don't know to avoid just yet).

Me, unless I'm on a team, I usually just scoot to a door away from other people Trick or Treating so I don't have to deal with any door click issues. Works for me.


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I have come to hate events for the reasons outlined above. Winter event: People are either yelling at you for taking presents, running ahead of you for a present, or yelling at you for not killing a spawn. Halloween Event: People are mad at you for being at 'their' door. You have jerks who cherry pick the ghosts that spawn around the GMs (I forget what they are called right now), then and only then will they broadcast the location of the GMs.

I think the only event that doesn't breakout into a hockey game is the Valentine's Day event. Which was fun the 1st time but now... yeah.


 

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I have come to hate events for the reasons outlined above. Winter event: People are either yelling at you for taking presents, running ahead of you for a present, or yelling at you for not killing a spawn. Halloween Event: People are mad at you for being at 'their' door. You have jerks who cherry pick the ghosts that spawn around the GMs (I forget what they are called right now), then and only then will they broadcast the location of the GMs.

I think the only event that doesn't breakout into a hockey game is the Valentine's Day event. Which was fun the 1st time but now... yeah.
And then there's the power leveling issue with Halloween. I need having people trying to sneak level 14 or lower characters onto level 50 teams, and then having to deal with them trying to explain how sidekicking works and how they'd be JUST as effective as a level 50 character!



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Which makes me glad I got the event badges I needed and dont need to go through it again with any other toons. The fun of the Holiday event and the Halloween event is long since gone with all the rude behavior, griefing and general bad behavior brought out by selfish people.


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Well technically going back and forth between two doors is not how ToT was originally intended. It's farming. So you have to expect that people will try to abuse the system that way, or not understand why you are staying at one door on and on. But that does not excuse them from broadcasting over PI about their gripe.


 

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People who farm experience this same rude behavior 365 days a year once the word gets out about them farming. Not just Halloween.


 

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Well technically going back and forth between two doors is not how ToT was originally intended. It's farming. So you have to expect that people will try to abuse the system that way, or not understand why you are staying at one door on and on. But that does not excuse them from broadcasting over PI about their gripe.
A lot of the worst behavior is around the choice double/quad doors or the pairs of double doors, like at the Curry Cove marker. Thing is, that sort of obsessive behavior is a bit... Pointless. There's a lot of double paired doors out there. And the cool down on the doors is freaking low. There's no need for this.

Still wonder how much of this is complete ignorance of the game vs. poor upbringing. I know it's a combination of BOTH, but which one is the bigger factor?

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Still wonder how much of this is complete ignorance of the game vs. poor upbringing. I know it's a combination of BOTH, but which one is the bigger factor?
The same reason why youtube comments are always filled with nothing but the scum of the earth. The anonymity of the interblagz allows stubborn little jackoffs to say and do whatever they please, completely unpunished. A treatment they could only dream of in the real world.
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