Who Remembers the Glory Days?

Is anybody still around who played CoH back when Regen Instant Healing was a toggle and there was no cap on powers like Invincibility? We have flashback missions, wouldn't it be nice to be able to access a special mission, event, or Arena type zone where certain powers were returned to the way they used to be? Maybe this could be for lvl 50 toons where XP is required anymore? Maybe make it like an ITF except with way more enemies and waves and such. Anytime I see a broadsword/regen scrapper (the rare times I do) I always get nolstagic about my first love who I leveled with no parry and when Integration didn't regen health. What do you think?

That...would...be...AWESOME!!!

Too bad it'd never happen

Why couldn't it happen? We have trial servers to set up the game with certain conditions, flashback missions can be tailored to include or exclude certain powers and conditions? I think it is possible to have a throwback to previous issues or power statuses.

Because this isn't a burning feature that most players are clamoring for, meaning that even if a developer wanted to include this it'd be a long time.

wow.... way to cut my nostalgis in two

Yes, I remember, and it would be interesting, but unless you used your second build for the purpose, you wouldn't be seeing glory days capabilities. And now you have two completely different sets of rules to learn and keep track of (three if you PvP). And how far back to you roll? City of Blasters? City of Burn Tanks? Since balance was much worse at the time, they were only the glory days for a fairly small group of players. For many people, any such rollback would be a return to the sucky days before their sets got fixed.

Me, I'd be happy to try it out. But I don't think it would be widely appreciated. The game is better now in my opinion, even if I don't get to watch my health bar fill like I've shoved a fire hose in it.

Yeah, how about when unyielding was unyielding stance, and rooted you, and rooted, you know, rooted you. Or back when dark armors were mutually exclusive, or when obsidian shield only gave hold protection. Or when healing flames had something like a 5 second casting time. Or back when weapon sets were the worst sets in the game because of their cast times taking draw time into account. Before containment, before criticals, before Defiance, before punchvoke. I can go on...

Glory days my foot. That's why there isn't a demand for that stuff.

Fear powers caused enemies to run to the other side of the city.
Hordes of fire monkies blocking door ways. Wait that was fun to watch those little guys go crazy all over.
The dark fluffy pet couldn't move.

Get rid of Enhancement Diversification. Now that was back when this game was good!

Many of the Powersets were never re-adjusted for ED. Devices is a prime example. We are just told it works on paper, but it doesn't work in the game as well as other powersets which have Build-Up. AR/Devices used to be as awesome as any of the other powersets when you could take advantage of Targetting Drone and 5-6 slot damage into AR attacks. Many players don't even take TD anymore. But, hey, it's working fine on a paper full of numbers somewhere... or so I am told.

To add insult to injury Targetted AoE Recipes do not boost damage either, which is what most AR attacks use. That can't be balanced.

Good points, and I understand the issues and neccessity to have game balance. That being said, I referenced the Flashback system and should have fleshed out my idea a little more. When doing flashback you can choose what options you want to run a mission under. Clearly not all issue roll-backs would be great, but maybe an option to select *IH: Toggle instead of Click Power and so on for certain power sets would allow everyone to have what they want.

Yes it is not financially viable to incorporate these ideas ... it is also is not financially viable to sustain my crazy addiction to this game that has me seen my pay around $800 dollars Canadian for around 3 years of gameplay ( I've been on and off since beta). I'm am not asking for a brand new City of Heroes: Prelude to be developed and rolled out. Just wanted to start a thread to give *some* people a feel good feeling when they finally obtained that Holy Grail point in their toons life.

Long live the memory of the past!!!!

There was the good and the bad. I remember having a DM/Regen and remember how awesome a HO'ed Regen was, but DM with so so at best. Siphon Life did little damage. MG hit hard but wasn't as front loaded. Soul Drain was definitely worse off. Perma MoG was fun until you ran into a psi mob. You had like what? 15-20% of your HP with no ability to gain any back, watch out for that fall damage!

Well built Regens could tank hami

Controllers had army of pets, grav's with 3 singies were perma holding AV's. Fire controllers were imp ranchers. Illusion really did bring a "Phantom Army" with 2 or 3 Phantasms, decoys and Phantom army.

5 Fire imps on a summon! 2 Fire imps

Defenders were good up until level 32 or 38, then you pretty much wished you had rolled a controller. (No Sonic blast back then)

Tanks had no aggro cap, powers had no AoE cap. Herding hundreds of mobs together and melting them had its moments.

Blasters were truely glass cannons, with no ED and I *think* Aim/BU getting you closer to the damage cap you really did hit like a truck. I remember Aim/BU Total Focus with like 3 nucs and 3 damage SO's just wrecking bosses.

My energy blaster with 4 Centrioles in each attack and stacking boost range could snipe hami from the safe rock.

Hami O's that gave 50% enhancment to a stat.... mmmm that should really come back at least for HO's that only increase two stats. (Balance of course for schedule A/B and the like)

Blasters running around at 5% health 1 shotting everything. Blaster trying to run around at 5% health and dying all the time. Blasters trying to run around at 5% health, and getting healed before defiance could ever kick in.

Defense not scaling with foe level.

Heroic to Invincible = +0's to +3's and +4's but no way to set spawn size 0 - 8. Plus it costs you influence to change it.

Controllers not getting containment and being miserable to level from 1-32.

Controller epics doing blaster level damage, with containment.

Ice tanks, SR scrappers, DA Scrappers. You felt bad for people who played them.

Elude being a toggle that gave you only affecting self, but you were really hard to hit.

Perma tier 9's

Terrify and spectral terror being funny powers but teams would HATE you for using them... especially on defeat alls

Smoke Grenade > SR

DMG/Range HO's working in shadowmaul and head splitter... with no target cap and no ED. Sexeh.

I'm sure there were other things, but really the game is much better off now.

I remember the glory days, back when Going Rogue came out and you could play Brutes as heroes and Controllers as villains, when almost every character could build up IO set bonuses to be as awesome as their imagination and dedication would allow, and when the population of the game came back from the doldrums to once again fill servers with a bustling community of happy players.

Ah, those were the good old days. I remember them like it was yesterday.

Honestly when I read the subject line I was thinking it was a joke thread. You know, how many Centari does it take to screw in a lightbulb? Just one, but back in the glory days of the old republic we had hundreds of slaves screwing in thousands of lightbulbs at our merest whim!

On topic, I wasn't here for that. I have been curious to know what play was like before ED, but it is only something that I can see myself trying once or twice. I don't think it would really be a big draw.

Probably about as popular as the sewer trial. Which is why it'll never get dev love.

From a practical standpoint, an option in the flashback window or the AE architect to set mechanics to a specific issue would be interesting.

I was one of those Dark Armor suckers, so the "good ol days" weren't that good to me. Other than watching other people do all the crazy stuff people talk about.

YES YES A MILLION TIMES YES!!!!

I started playing back in the day when a tank could herd a whole map full of warwolves, and a blaster could take them all out with a single nuke. That looked like the coolest thing in the world. My fire blaster was in his late 20s when the target cap on AoEs was put into place. I was devastated that I'd never get to do it.

If we could go back to those rules, even for a single day, I would be freaking ecstatic. I have ALWAYS wanted to do that, even if it was just once.

Good god, please no. The game was much worse back then pretty much in all ways.

I remember those days. I spent a long time on my BS/Regen herding up groups of 5th Column in Brickstown and used the geography to stack them all together, then MASSACRED them with a Built-Up Headsplitter. A few times I had so many of them that my computer froze for a second while it calculated the amount of carnage it was going to have to process, followed by a chorus of that beautiful satisfying CRUNCH as the broadsword sank into the Nazis.

Honestly, though? Looking back at it, the level of offense and survivability I had with BS/Regeneration is nothing compared to the carnage I unleash with my Soft-capped VEAT once the AoE cap is accounted for. Soft-capped anything approaches the survability of Toggle Instant Healing, and add both Aid Self and Defense Debuff Resistance to that and you're looking good. I'd wager that, were it around in I4 as it is today, Defense would be hit as hard by the nerf hammer as Regen was.

Which makes me think that the Incarnate content is going to involve a lot of defense mitigation.

No doubt the game is good now or else I would not still be playing it. Just thought I would get some people's memory jogged, for better or worse. Especially when against DE content, the need for a balanced defenses on an AT or a good team is highlighted.

First thing I thought on seeing the thread title was: "We are living in the glory days." For melee, softcaping is getting to be SOP. I have a softcapped permadom that can mez everything on every spawn *and* kill it damn fast. We have softcapped freaking blasters running around.

People are letting nostalga overwhelm good sense here.

Yes, THESE are the glory days.