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If it fires on a slept foe, it most likely will.
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Originally Posted by StarGeek
A friend is contemplating putting a damage proc in his blind power, but is wondering if the proc will affect critters hit by the aoe sleep part, and if so, will it break the sleep? Anyone know?
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Originally Posted by StarGeek
A friend is contemplating putting a damage proc in his blind power, but is wondering if the proc will affect critters hit by the aoe sleep part, and if so, will it break the sleep? Anyone know?
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Anyway - my guess would be it would not affect the sleep targets - but I'm not totally sure. As for the wakeup - do any of the sleep procs deal damage? I'm at work so reasearch is difficult. I'd think not as the damage is delt at the same time
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yes it will break the sleep...but flash has such a long timer anyway, i wouldn't damage proc it out. it's not really an effective slotting imo. if anything i'd proc it out w/ chance for holds.
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. It's just I have no familiarity with Illusion, and couldn't come up with anything for him.Quote:
| As for the wakeup - do any of the sleep procs deal damage? |
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Originally Posted by Chad Gulzow-Man
In a similar vein, I know for a fact that using Fire Control's Smoke power with the Deflated Ego: Chance for Recovery Debuff proc will cause it to pull aggro...
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They don't, but the hold procs do, and Blind takes hold sets as well.
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Originally Posted by Rajani Isa
As for the wakeup - do any of the sleep procs deal damage?
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In a similar vein, I know for a fact that using Fire Control's Smoke power with the Deflated Ego: Chance for Recovery Debuff proc will cause it to pull aggro...
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I did it with the damage proc in confuse
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Originally Posted by BashfulBanshee
I did that too
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What I was going for was : Chances are the proc will wake the targets, then, if the sleep Io sets lack a damage proc.|
Originally Posted by ArcticFahx
They don't, but the hold procs do, and Blind takes hold sets as well.
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Pretty much every other mez seems to have one, IIRC, and the main reason I would see for not having one is if testing had the proc waking the slept targets.
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Originally Posted by Chad Gulzow-Man
In a similar vein, I know for a fact that using Fire Control's Smoke power with the Deflated Ego: Chance for Recovery Debuff proc will cause it to pull aggro...
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That proc is good for seeds - it grabs aggro anyway.
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Originally Posted by sblinks
I did it with the damage proc in confuse
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Deflated Ego: Chance for Recovery Debuff .. this actually works now? for the longest time if i recall this was a broken enhancement.
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i have the unbreakable constraint dam proc in blind and i can't remember it going off on slept foes, but the sleep aspect doesn't hit that often and the proc will probably go off with a more significant frequency. especially with a purple proc.
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But will the proc not just be single targeted? The AoE effect of Blind is a side effect, the power is basically a single target ranged power.
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Originally Posted by ArcticFahx
They don't, but the hold procs do, and Blind takes hold sets as well.
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* As far as I'm aware the people slept won't trigger the PROC, because only enemies hit by the hold effect will be checked for a PROC. That's how procs (and sets in general) work, they are tied to the effect the set belongs to.
So in effect only the actual target will roll the PROC, because they are the only person hit by the Hold effect.
This is also why, for example, sticking a Posis Blast into Oil Slick Arrow doesn't work until the Slick is ignited, the proc is attached to Targetted AOE Damage which doesn't kick in until the Flame Patch appears.
This is also true of pets. If you stick one of these Hold PROCs into a Dark Servant for example it will only have a chance of proccing when he fires off his Hold.
Edit : Ooops, notice you said "Damage PROC", if it's a Ranged Damage or Hold one the above holds, since only the original target is hit with the Hold and Damage effects of the power.
Actually interestingly I think that means if you slot Blind with just Hold and Damage sets that in fact the AOE Sleep accuracy will be unaffected and at base.
Also interestingly from reading on Red Tomax how Blind works I've just realised why the experimental Chance for Heal PROC I had added from the Sleep set never worked for me no matter what I did. Damn thing uses a Pseudopet summon to do the Sleep part (so if the heal did ever trigger it was directed at that Pseudopet, not me).
Yes, all that is true for IOs but as the OP said before
"Actually, he's using one of the Gamestop preorder enhancements, which will fit into the power. I should have mentioned."
I am curious on that one as well as in theroy it would have a chance to proc on anything it hit but since I do not have that preorder pack I would have no way to test this.
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If he is using a damage proc from the Hold sets (Ghost Widow and Neuronic Shutdown both have Chance for Psi Damage), then it will only affect the single foe who is subject to the Hold. It will not affect the pseudopet that causes the sleep, nor will it wake up the rare foe who is slept. Neither the hold nor the damage from Blind get extended to any foes hit by the sleep. Will it work for the Gamestop proc? I don't know since I haven't tried it, but I doubt it.|
Originally Posted by StarGeek
A friend is contemplating putting a damage proc in his blind power, but is wondering if the proc will affect critters hit by the aoe sleep part, and if so, will it break the sleep? Anyone know?
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Frankly, the AoE for the sleep is so small, it is not even worth considering. The Sleep only hits when foes are very, very close. I think the AoE is only about 2 feet.
However, you will get more overall damage from slotting Blind for Damage than a damage proc, unless you have already reached the ED cap. The exception is the Chance for Smashing from the purple Unbreakable Constraint set, where the higher chance results in more damage.
(And if you are asking stuff about a powerset like Illusion, you might want to ask the question in the Controller forum since Illusion is exclusively a Controller set. Not that putting the question here is wrong, but the folks who know more about Illusion tend to hang out more there.)
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A friend is contemplating putting a damage proc in his blind power, but is wondering if the proc will affect critters hit by the aoe sleep part, and if so, will it break the sleep? Anyone know?
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