I'm afraid of i19


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First ,thanks devs for doing it,but now i'm thinking about sloting .To my knowledge with i19 were not getting any extra slots.so health and stamia still needs to be sloted.(my stamina is 4 sloted and health is 3 )well my build is without hasten, so sloting hasten is what im worryed about. Wondering if i could get away with slotting the set of performance shifter in quick recovery and adding one slot into hasten from stamina and keeping 1 endmod in stamia.Will that save me from end problems seeing i will now have to deal with the mimi crash from hasten, along with rage and SOW crashes.Just wonding if anyone else thought about this ?


 

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If you already have stamina, then you're essentially getting three free new powers, but you won't have slots for them. Either skim some from elsewhere, or pick powers that don't need extra slots.

Hasten can be good on the default slot, but it's not going to be a permanent thing. Try thinking of hasten as a "sometimes" power instead of an auto power. When you're getting hit with slows, or you have someone buffing recovery, then use it.


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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison View Post
If you already have stamina, then you're essentially getting three free new powers, but you won't have slots for them. Either skim some from elsewhere, or pick powers that don't need extra slots.

Hasten can be good on the default slot, but it's not going to be a permanent thing. Try thinking of hasten as a "sometimes" power instead of an auto power. When you're getting hit with slows, or you have someone buffing recovery, then use it.
thanks,for the response i understand that were getting 3 new power thats cool and all,but with the new power im think of handling the end that comes with the new powers. i just hate when an blue bar jump up and down take away from the fun.


 

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Brutes benefit greatly from this change, you say endurance is your problem? Easy when i19 releases, take Body Mastery, take Superior conditioning and Physical Perfection. You just need the default slot so don't worry, toss a Performance +End proc in each power. Now every ten seconds you get a chance to get +20 endurance added to your bar.

I believe you're an SS/WP from what you've said, if I'm right, endurance shouldn't even be an issue to begin with. Post your build please, not to be rude, but seem like it needs some help.


 

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You don't need to take powers that ruin the blue bar. Powers i've been looking at are alternate travel powers that fit concept, a power like a T9 or self rez that i never took, recall friend for utility, perhaps a 1-or 2-slotted leadership power. Lots of options that can enhance playstyle and concept.


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Originally Posted by Gypsy_of_Paradox View Post
Brutes benefit greatly from this change, you say endurance is your problem? Easy when i19 releases, take Body Mastery, take Superior conditioning and Physical Perfection. You just need the default slot so don't worry, toss a Performance +End proc in each power. Now every ten seconds you get a chance to get +20 endurance added to your bar.

I believe you're an SS/WP from what you've said, if I'm right, endurance shouldn't even be an issue to begin with. Post your build please, not to be rude, but seem like it needs some help.
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Originally Posted by Telperion View Post
You don't need to take powers that ruin the blue bar. Powers i've been looking at are alternate travel powers that fit concept, a power like a T9 or self rez that i never took, recall friend for utility, perhaps a 1-or 2-slotted leadership power. Lots of options that can enhance playstyle and concept.
I'll go for the travel power and such, really just thinking about hasten seeing that will be the only one that can mees with my blue bar.thanks for the help might get resurgenence,nah not that lol. will get something that wont hurt blue bar


 

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Originally Posted by megaman09 View Post
i think my builds fine(maybe lol)was trying to think ahead. but here my build,i'll llike any advise to improve it
Overall its nice, not sure why you're having end issues. Its the not the direction I would have gone with a willpower, but softcapping one is still a viable choice. I built mine for hp/regen mostly, either works IMHO. I'm also addicted to Haste and Superspeed lol

For me i19 offers my WP brutes dipping into the medicine pool for Aid Self. I have an Elec/WP and a SS/WP at 50, can't wait for the new issue.


 

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Originally Posted by Nalrok_AthZim View Post
For me, it opens up the Fighting Pool on all my melee characters, a pool I swore I'd never take.

Now that I'll have 3 free power picks.. why the hell not?
No,dont get me wrong i'm thankful that they made them inherent,just wondering about sloting them and not mess up my blue bar


 

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Originally Posted by Gypsy_of_Paradox View Post
Overall its nice, not sure why you're having end issues. Its the not the direction I would have gone with a willpower, but softcapping one is still a viable choice. I built mine for hp/regen mostly, either works IMHO. I'm also addicted to Haste and Superspeed lol

For me i19 offers my WP brutes dipping into the medicine pool for Aid Self. I have an Elec/WP and a SS/WP at 50, can't wait for the new issue.
thanks, and i not having issues now was thinking about i19 and adding hasten and ss they are nice to have, even sj


 

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thanks, and i not having issues now was thinking about i19 and adding hasten and ss they are nice to have even sj
Yea my Elec/WP is my main badger so he gets a lot of play, he's pretty solid right now. Once I can heal myself *evil cackle*

So many directions we can take toons, very exciting.


 

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Originally Posted by Gypsy_of_Paradox View Post
Yea my Elec/WP is my main badger so he gets a lot of play, he's pretty solid right now. Once I can heal myself *evil cackle*

So many directions we can take toons, very exciting.
It's true i19 will make us all stronger to some degree,yeah i like my ele/wp also when kinda of crazy on him when they gave us tanker epic have to go work on him a little bit. i ll be able to do that soon, making an tanker to take over there to villains side.here an queston for u or anyone really do u know how to make the adjustment for the mids to show the new inherment i seen someone with it .just dont know to get mines to do it i downloaded the new version already?


 

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Originally Posted by megaman09 View Post
i think my builds fine(maybe lol)was trying to think ahead. but here my build,i'll llike any advise to improve it
Overall it looks good, at a quick glance things I would do differently:

  • High Pain Tolerance is overslotted, the extra resistance isn't doing that much for you. I would remove 2 slots and put the steadfast unique here - This nets you 2 total slots.
  • I think slotting KO blow for Hold is a bit of a waste. I think you went for the typed defenses, I'd rather go for more Rech/End Rdx and ED Capped Damage.
  • Indom Will could use a bit of End Rdx.
  • I know why you slotted Dark Oblit like that, but it pains me to see it not slotted for any damage.

My first choices for 3 power picks would be:
  1. Taunt - Requires no extra slots to function (auto-hit) pop a recharge rdx in it and you're good to go.
  2. Hasten - remove 2 rech rdx from Rage and put them in here to 3 slot hasten. Hasten will now be up enough that you should always be able to stack rage to avoid def crashing.
  3. Superspeed or Super Jump - quality of life improvement, requires no slots.


 

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I completely agree with Deus. Any Brute that doesn't have Taunt should definitely put it at the top of their list. It is a great power to have, if not for generating agro in a team setting then at least for the -75% range. You will come to love that ability even when solo.


 

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thanks,for the response i understand that were getting 3 new power thats cool and all,but with the new power im think of handling the end that comes with the new powers. i just hate when an blue bar jump up and down take away from the fun.
Hasten doesn't actually cost that much endurance to use, you just have to watch out that you have more than 15 endurance when it crashes. On a Permahasten build, it works out to be .125 end/sec which is cheaper to run than most toggles.


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I used to abhor Taunt on a Brute, and I ran a Willpower as my main for a year. But with the nerf on Fury, and the 3 new power picks, it is an issue worth revisiting.


 

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Hasten doesn't actually cost that much endurance to use, you just have to watch out that you have more than 15 endurance when it crashes. On a Permahasten build, it works out to be .125 end/sec which is cheaper to run than most toggles.
Yeah, but it allows you to use your higher end/activation powers more often. There in lies the real problem.


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Originally Posted by Gypsy_of_Paradox View Post
Brutes benefit greatly from this change, you say endurance is your problem? Easy when i19 releases, take Body Mastery, take Superior conditioning and Physical Perfection. You just need the default slot so don't worry, toss a Performance +End proc in each power. Now every ten seconds you get a chance to get +20 endurance added to your bar.

I believe you're an SS/WP from what you've said, if I'm right, endurance shouldn't even be an issue to begin with. Post your build please, not to be rude, but seem like it needs some help.
HA I bought 6 of these weeks ago when I first heard about the change for brutes and tanks.


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Originally Posted by JuliusSeizure View Post
I completely agree with Deus. Any Brute that doesn't have Taunt should definitely put it at the top of their list. It is a great power to have, if not for generating agro in a team setting then at least for the -75% range. You will come to love that ability even when solo.
Yes all my brutes will be getting taunt..


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I am afraid too.
Im obsessed with the roleplay and the FX and lots of the power pools doesnt fit well on most of my alts...
If only we could get a no FX option for hasten life would be easier after I19.
Really I got no clue what Im going to do after respec with 3 new powers


 

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I hate the respec interface. May not even respec any of my existing brutes to take advantage of the change, though all characters I've made since are created with it in mind. Provided you don't have to respec an existing character WITHOUT the pool to get it. I'm not sure how that will work so far: I have a mastermind *without* the fitness pool. Will I get the pool when I log him in after I19, or will I have to respec to get it?


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HA I bought 6 of these weeks ago when I first heard about the change for brutes and tanks.
I bought up a ton of these years ago for 10k before the "proc" madness really hit the game.
Of course with as many 50s as I have, yes, they are all gone. lol


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I hate the respec interface. May not even respec any of my existing brutes to take advantage of the change, though all characters I've made since are created with it in mind. Provided you don't have to respec an existing character WITHOUT the pool to get it. I'm not sure how that will work so far: I have a mastermind *without* the fitness pool. Will I get the pool when I log him in after I19, or will I have to respec to get it?
I hate the whole system of as well, but the annoyances to be great. lol

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I hate. I just HATE. THat is why I SMASH.


 

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I hate. I just HATE. THat is why I SMASH.
Exactly the reason I have 8 brutes at 50, its so refreshing to just to enter a room and smash everything in sight. LOL