Your fastest option is simply to use the market... buy recipes that you can craft and sell for a profit or flip stuff (IE buy stuff cheap and sell high, lots of things tend to fluctuate pretty dramatically over a few hours).
For example, let's say you can buy a recipe for whatever for around a million and it'll cost, including salvage, 3 million to craft. Well, if the crafted IO sells for 10 million plus you've a moneymaker there. Just check what recipes are going for and what the crafted IO is going for. I'd suggest looking for something with a high turnover.
If you do want to farm you're right about a lack of AOE being problematic... set your difficulty to higher level mobs that you can still handle efficiently and leave your team size low. Don't forget that you'll probably make a lot more selling your drops on the market than from straight kills.
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I'm working on getting it to where I can log onto a character and work the market for 5-10 minutes at worst and make 100mil. If you think you can farm and make that kind of influ per time, then knock yourself out and don't tell anyone because it will get fixed. |
Originally Posted by Syntax42
I'm looking for a fast way to earn INF.
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P.S. Game time != total time. Sometimes that 5-10 minutes of work has to sit and do it's magic.
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Perhaps the easiest thing to do is run tip missions at -1/x1 difficulty. Get a Hero Merit. Do the random roll. You'll get five rare recipes. Sell them on the market. Profit.|
Originally Posted by Syntax42
Sorry if this topic is frequently brought up. Either I'm bad at searching, or the forums are so cluttered with key words that it is impossible to find a relevant topic without sifting through many irrelevant ones. Searching for words like "farm" or "tickets" gives me too many irrelevant results and I did not find what I was looking for.
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You should be able to do each tip mission in 5-10 minutes once you get to know them. Do five a day in 30-60 minutes, and every other day you'll earn a Hero merit.
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Or you could save up 2 A-Merits and buy a level 25 LOTG 7.5% recharge... last I looked those were over 100 million. You can get one every 4 days that way; you'll be "farming" your tips about 1 hour per day based on my experience with my BS/Shield scrapper.|
Originally Posted by Rodion
Perhaps the easiest thing to do is run tip missions at -1/x1 difficulty. Get a Hero Merit. Do the random roll. You'll get five rare recipes. Sell them on the market. Profit.
You should be able to do each tip mission in 5-10 minutes once you get to know them. Do five a day in 30-60 minutes, and every other day you'll earn a Hero merit. |
I've been doing this with my 50 BS/Shield and my 50 Ill/Rad. Right now I'm just buying the recipes, crafting and putting them into base storage for some rebuilds once issue 19 hits.
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I already do tip missions for hero merits. I am looking for another way to make INF after my tips are done.
I am not a fan of flipping items or crafting and selling because it is causing unreasonable price inflation. For example, one recipe sells for 50 mil while the crafted IO sells for 80 mil. There is no reason other than greed for a 30 mil crafting charge. I may have to do it anyways...
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The reason it sells for 30 million more is simply because there's so many people with way more money than they know what to do with. If you're sitting on multi-billions of inf you're probably not all that concerned about an extra 30 million on an IO. Heck, some of the marketeers are actively working to destroy inf by burning it up converting to prestige. There's several threads on this in the marketing forum.|
Originally Posted by Syntax42
I already do tip missions for hero merits. I am looking for another way to make INF after my tips are done.
I am not a fan of flipping items or crafting and selling because it is causing unreasonable price inflation. For example, one recipe sells for 50 mil while the crafted IO sells for 80 mil. There is no reason other than greed for a 30 mil crafting charge. I may have to do it anyways... |
Heck, I'm not quite in that area myself but frequently I'm perfectly willing to shell out a premium and avoid the hassle of crafting an IO. There's also occasions where I'm looking for something and the only one for sale is already crafted; unless it's a hugely expensive item I'm likely to just snatch it up and move on.
It's a convenience thing; if people weren't perfectly willing to pay the premium then things wouldn't sell for the amounts they do.
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Seriously, don't worry about it. The fact that it can be sold at a high, even "insane", mark up on a regular basis just means that there are many players with enough Inf to pay it and not be bothered about the amount. You're most likely selling to another marketeer or farmer who's outfitting their latest alt. They have the Inf and they want to spend it. Indulge their generosity and take their Inf.|
Originally Posted by Syntax42
There is no reason other than greed
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A frugal player would have learned to buy the recipe and craft it themselves. If the recipe itself was expensive, I'm sure they would be more than willing to try to bid low and wait it out for a while. Or use one of the other methods the Devs implemented to enable them to attain the recipe without spending Inf, like Reward Merits, AE Tickets, and Hero/Villain Merits. Or, they can learn to work the Market too.
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The reason the crafted IO sells for 80 mill? There's a bid sitting there for 80 mill. I've sold IOs for 100+ mill... I list them at, say, 10k. |
Originally Posted by Syntax42
I already do tip missions for hero merits. I am looking for another way to make INF after my tips are done.
I am not a fan of flipping items or crafting and selling because it is causing unreasonable price inflation. For example, one recipe sells for 50 mil while the crafted IO sells for 80 mil. There is no reason other than greed for a 30 mil crafting charge. I may have to do it anyways... |
Now, yeah, sometimes the *listed* price is pretty high, but for some items (those specific IOs) - you're going to get a good chunk of change, most times, even listing at 1 inf.
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Originally Posted by Syntax42
I am not a fan of flipping items or crafting and selling because it is causing unreasonable price inflation. For example, one recipe sells for 50 mil while the crafted IO sells for 80 mil. There is no reason other than greed for a 30 mil crafting charge. I may have to do it anyways...
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If people are willing to pay 30million inf for someone else to craft something then it is worth 30million inf to them.
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Originally Posted by Syntax42
I already do tip missions for hero merits. I am looking for another way to make INF after my tips are done.
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If you have bad AoE damage then your best bet in AE is to create yourself an boss farm. What you want is a big outdoor map and set enemy group to none. Then pick one boss who is weak to Negative damage (hint, don't use Banished Pantheon or Circle of Thorns). Shivans and Devouring Earth take 20% bonus Neg damage, Redcaps 14%. Set the maximum number of mission goal "defeat boss" set the group to weak so it is just the boss and 1 minion. Set your difficulty to +2/x1. Only go higher if you kill at the exact same speed as you do on x2. If it takes you several more hits to kill the boss, you are not increasing your inf/hour even if your inf/kill is higher. Do NOT change the player number, any attacks on enemies weaker than bosses are hurting your influence per unit of time.
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Outside of AE, find an Oro Arc that you can run very fast (-1/x1, or 0x1) and collect merits. Convert to Hero Merits and sell those for profit.
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Last, make a better farming build on your second build screen. Say pick Fire for your APP. Shadow Maul, Fireball, and Shield Charge should work for you to earn inf pretty quick at +0/x6,7,8 depending on what your defenses can handle. Keep bosses off for this as with AoEs you'll earn more by killing many mobs.
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So, with high ST damage, you want lots of bosses minimum minions and lieuts. If you can up your AoE rock the minions and lieuts and turn off bosses. Farm tickets or merits, or just get AoE and go to town on your favorite missions and hope for purples. Best part is with two builds you can do all three to keep from getting bored.
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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
The reason the crafted IO sells for 80 mill? There's a bid sitting there for 80 mill. I've sold IOs for 100+ mill... I list them at, say, 10k.
Now, yeah, sometimes the *listed* price is pretty high, but for some items (those specific IOs) - you're going to get a good chunk of change, most times, even listing at 1 inf. |
afk farm while you sleep, play the market when your playtime is slow.
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Hi. So I'm a flipper and I really don't think we cause inflation. All we do is buy an undervalued item compared to the average selling price at the time, add a slight amount to cover Transaction fees and make a small profit. Never very much really. And then people buy it for 3 times the price I'm listing at.|
Originally Posted by Syntax42
I already do tip missions for hero merits. I am looking for another way to make INF after my tips are done.
I am not a fan of flipping items or crafting and selling because it is causing unreasonable price inflation. For example, one recipe sells for 50 mil while the crafted IO sells for 80 mil. There is no reason other than greed for a 30 mil crafting charge. I may have to do it anyways... |
The crafters really aren't charging a 30 million influece crafting fee either. Maybe 3 million. Once again people pay it. And pay well.
Don't ask me why they do it. They just do.
I think what causes the inflation is people earning lots of influence and then spending it foolishly. Repeatedly too I must say.
And sorry for the ThreadJack. Carry on.
Enjoy your day please.
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If this surprises you, you haven't been paying attention to the real economy. In real life, it's even worse. People get a little credit and decide they need a High Definition Television. And when they can't pay that back, they decide they need a new car/truck/suv (I really don't understand the "logic" of this, but I've seen it happen too often).|
Originally Posted by BashfulBanshee
I think what causes the inflation is people earning lots of influence and then spending it foolishly. Repeatedly too I must say.
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A lot of people make extremely foolish decisions with their money, expecting people to be smart about spending make-believe money is just silly.
Oh, I continued the threadjack... oops. I think the question was pretty much answered anyway.
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In case someone reads this in the future, don't set enemy groups to "None" as it will not allow you to play this mission that way. Set it to "Empty" to achieve the result intended by the quoted poster.|
Originally Posted by GavinRuneblade
Suggestion 1:
If you have bad AoE damage then your best bet in AE is to create yourself an boss farm. What you want is a big outdoor map and set enemy group to none. Then pick one boss who is weak to Negative damage (hint, don't use Banished Pantheon or Circle of Thorns). Shivans and Devouring Earth take 20% bonus Neg damage, Redcaps 14%. Set the maximum number of mission goal "defeat boss" set the group to weak so it is just the boss and 1 minion. Set your difficulty to +2/x1. Only go higher if you kill at the exact same speed as you do on x2. If it takes you several more hits to kill the boss, you are not increasing your inf/hour even if your inf/kill is higher. Do NOT change the player number, any attacks on enemies weaker than bosses are hurting your influence per unit of time. Suggestion 2: Outside of AE, find an Oro Arc that you can run very fast (-1/x1, or 0x1) and collect merits. Convert to Hero Merits and sell those for profit. Suggestion 3: Last, make a better farming build on your second build screen. Say pick Fire for your APP. Shadow Maul, Fireball, and Shield Charge should work for you to earn inf pretty quick at +0/x6,7,8 depending on what your defenses can handle. Keep bosses off for this as with AoEs you'll earn more by killing many mobs. |
That suggestion was great and I now have a farming map I am satisfied with. I killed the bosses only (mission objectives only required bosses, not their minions) and got just shy of 1500 tickets on +1 x1. Took me about 15 minutes. I will probably increase the player count so I can do more damage from Soul Siphon and Against All Odds. My capped defenses and Siphon Life healing can handle it.
I am already doing suggestions 2 and sort of 3. My build is inexpensive, but made more for farming until I can afford the really expensive build I want. The merit conversion can only be done once per day, so farming hero merits isn't taking up much of my play time. For anyone with less time, I would definitely suggest farming hero/villain merits before looking to other methods of farming.
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I support your thread jack and will take it from there. There is a place for homeless and poor people to get a dinner down the street from my house. We walk our dogs by there around feeding time. You should see all the "poor" people that cannot afford to eat, drive up in nice cars, talking on thier cellphones while smoking. They probably wonder why they never have money too.|
Originally Posted by Johnstone
If this surprises you, you haven't been paying attention to the real economy. In real life, it's even worse. People get a little credit and decide they need a High Definition Television. And when they can't pay that back, they decide they need a new car/truck/suv (I really don't understand the "logic" of this, but I've seen it happen too often).
A lot of people make extremely foolish decisions with their money, expecting people to be smart about spending make-believe money is just silly. Oh, I continued the threadjack... oops. I think the question was pretty much answered anyway. |
On topic, if you want to kill stuff for money while playing melee rather than play the market, reroll a SS/Fire brute and make an AE farm with just fire damage.
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This doen't surprise me in the least. It is an unfortunate situation when people feel they need to have all of the nicest shinies as soon as they come out. I almost feel bad for them when bill time comes and they find themselves unable to pay all of them off.|
Originally Posted by Johnstone
If this surprises you, you haven't been paying attention to the real economy. In real life, it's even worse. People get a little credit and decide they need a High Definition Television. And when they can't pay that back, they decide they need a new car/truck/suv (I really don't understand the "logic" of this, but I've seen it happen too often).
A lot of people make extremely foolish decisions with their money, expecting people to be smart about spending make-believe money is just silly. Oh, I continued the threadjack... oops. I think the question was pretty much answered anyway. |
Almost but not quite. Which may sound a little crass and cruel but isn't really the intent.
While everyone was riding high on the economy buying their third vehicle and the biggest home the bank would allow them to have I maintained my happy little, non extravagent life style looking forward to and saving for the day that I too might be able to own a place of my own.
The market crashed, as it always does, and I walked over to the bank with my history of modest spending and decent credit (which really surprised me honestly) and applied to be pre-approved. I fully expected to be turned down but then at least I would know what steps I would need to take in the future to get me to where I wanted to be.
But I was approved and my kitty and I were able to find a place that was in a great location, 4 years old, and super pretty.
I guess the point of all of that was to live within your means and then you will be able to take advantage of the options that become available to you.
Enjoy your day please.
Continuing the threadjack: Congrats, banshee, on your new home!
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I've always done that.
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Originally Posted by PC_guy
afk farm while you sleep, play the market when your playtime is slow.
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Thanks for the correction! I created mine a while back and apparently forgot the specifics.|
Originally Posted by Syntax42
In case someone reads this in the future, don't set enemy groups to "None" as it will not allow you to play this mission that way. Set it to "Empty" to achieve the result intended by the quoted poster.
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Glad it's working out for you!
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Originally Posted by Syntax42
I am not a fan of flipping items or crafting and selling because it is causing unreasonable price inflation.
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grind farm maps, it's about your speed.
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If you insist upon farming...
Although it's not even close to the efficiency as my elec/shield, I've found my dark/shield to be a fun change of pace for farming purposes.
Assuming you are softcapped to defense, Council Empire foes are perfect to farm for */shield toons. After a ranged volley or two they pack in tightly around you. Hit your build up, SC, and take out the stragglers with your single target strikes.
Make yourself a custom farm in AE using Council Empire as your foe or run the Council Empire farm from Unai Kemen in PI.
I recently leveled and IOed my Dark/Shield Scrapper and I'm looking for a fast way to earn INF. The AoE damage is lacking, so most AE farming missions won't be very fast for me. If anyone could point me in the right direction of missions that would be efficient farming, I would appreciate it. It doesn't have to be AE. I just remember that's what everyone used to farm when I last played.
I did try searching for "AV" in the AE search window, but it fails to produce the results I'm looking for. The search filter will include missions with words like "have", "maverick", and "Dave" because "AV" is in the text. Someone directed me to a mission that was supposed to have AVs, but I only found EBs. I did have my difficulty set to +1, x4, bosses and AVs on, so I have no idea why it only produced EBs for me.
Sorry if this topic is frequently brought up. Either I'm bad at searching, or the forums are so cluttered with key words that it is impossible to find a relevant topic without sifting through many irrelevant ones. Searching for words like "farm" or "tickets" gives me too many irrelevant results and I did not find what I was looking for.