Who cut my girls' throats when I wasn't looking?
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Posted on: 2010-10-04 06:45 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
I've been playing a guy for some time, and I played a girl with a spiked collar before that. So imagine my surprise when I logged into an old female character last night, only to find her head had shifted to her left shoulder, leaving a very obvious "edge" and a very, very obvious gap that let me see "inside" her body. Luckily for me, our characters are hollow and made of one-way surfaces, and they could live even with their torsos missing, so this wasn't as gruesome as the title implies, but... Come on, now! Just look at this!
I specifically picked the characters I had with short hair or hair that didn't obscure their necks, but that's true for ALL of them, and this is between two servers. and you'd think it's not visible from afar... But it is. Once I know it's there, I can see the edge where the head is shifted to the side even in wide shots. And, yes, I'm aware of BABs' official animation and effects bugs threads. First of all, this is neither, and second of all, I have lost all faith that this thread is so much as looked at. This just really, really bugs me. |
It's pretty widely documented in the Tech section that something screwy has happened to female head models, it looks like they've shifted off their origin points a bit and that's causing all of these clipping and floating problems.
The Devs hate girls.
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Well, I should hope so. Then maybe if this gets fixed it will be the first of many fixes the female model in general requires, such as the ability to use inspirations while animating an Awaken, not cycling through one step of slow running animation if under the influence of run speed buffs, not randomly dropping out of combat mode and refusing to use stances until you draw a weapon and so forth. I've been reporting these things for pretty much as long as I can remember.|
Originally Posted by Carnifax_NA
Isn't this just the bug from last Tuesdays patch?
It's pretty widely documented in the Tech section that something screwy has happened to female head models, it looks like they've shifted off their origin points a bit and that's causing all of these clipping and floating problems. |
This was just... It kind of finally caused me to blow over, because it's the most obvious of the bugs that only affect the Female model.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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Hadn't read of anybody experiencing this, but is explains why the left side of my girls heads are sticking through some hairstyles.
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Originally Posted by Carnifax_NA
Isn't this just the bug from last Tuesdays patch?
It's pretty widely documented in the Tech section that something screwy has happened to female head models, it looks like they've shifted off their origin points a bit and that's causing all of these clipping and floating problems. |
This is documented in the patch notes discussion thread, and the devs are aware.
Sweet! Let's hope it gets fixed soon. It's really distracting.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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Nobel Savage has already been quoted as saying it's been fixed and is in the production patch queue, the quote is in the Tech section thread about the screwy female heads.
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
Sweet! Let's hope it gets fixed soon. It's really distracting.
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If I may make a suggestion to tide you over until the bug gets fixed, Go to the tailor and select the high collared cape from the Magic booster. That should block your line of sight from behind and you won't notice it as much.
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
Sweet! Let's hope it gets fixed soon. It's really distracting.
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Knowing that it will be fixed and fast is enough to quell my dislike, really. What bugs me the most about these things is the fact that almost all of them have been in the game for years, and they bug me more every day. This one has years before I start freaking out |
Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
If I may make a suggestion to tide you over until the bug gets fixed, Go to the tailor and select the high collared cape from the Magic booster. That should block your line of sight from behind and you won't notice it as much.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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Cutter Cain!
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Originally Posted by Silverado
Cutter Cain!
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By the way, it occurs to me that while I didn't check the patch notes thread (something I don't do when there are, in fact, patch notes) I did check the Dev Digest before I left work today, and I didn't see a post from David in there that wasn't days old. I'll have to check again.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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That's because there isn't one. Yes, one red name post could easily lessen the amount of duplicate posts on this subject, just one little post 
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Well, girls are evil, ergo: girls = villains.
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Originally Posted by Zombie Man
The Devs hate girls.
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Have they managed to fix the strange shifting that happens when female models use /e drink, too?
What is it with stuff breaking nearly every patch? I mean, not even stuff related to stuff that was changed; totally different stuff breaking?
So. Damn. Wierd.
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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The wonderful world of software development!
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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
What is it with stuff breaking nearly every patch? I mean, not even stuff related to stuff that was changed; totally different stuff breaking?
So. Damn. Wierd. |
Having Vengeance and Fallout slotted for recharge means never having to say you're sorry.
The wonderful world of "Oh crap the marketing department is running the show we need to get this trash out the door on time!"
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I lol'd. But it's still true >_>
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Originally Posted by GuyPerfect
The wonderful world of "Oh crap the marketing department is running the show we need to get this trash out the door on time!"
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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They're incredibly "hands-off" for people who are supposedly running the show, though.
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Originally Posted by GuyPerfect
The wonderful world of "Oh crap the marketing department is running the show we need to get this trash out the door on time!"
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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Of course they're hands-off. They're not responsible for doing work; they're responsible for making sure customers spend money. The way they do this is by pressuring development to churn out quantity even at the expense of quality.
For comparison: Electronic Arts.
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Comparing companies to EA or Activision needs to be the gaming version of Godwin's Law.
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Originally Posted by GuyPerfect
For comparison: Electronic Arts.
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Having Vengeance and Fallout slotted for recharge means never having to say you're sorry.
Sam, is this fixed as of now with the new patch today?
And I think the quote mentioned was actually a PM from David that someone posted here.
I haven't logged in today yet, so I don't know what the status of things are after the fix.
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Patch on Test? Lemme' update and have a look. I don't see necks mentioned, however.
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Originally Posted by Electric-Knight
Sam, is this fixed as of now with the new patch today?
And I think the quote mentioned was actually a PM from David that someone posted here. I haven't logged in today yet, so I don't know what the status of things are after the fix. |
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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Aye, but I think the symptoms stem from the same cause, that heads for those models were accidentally offset by a few coordinates, causing chopped head syndrome and misfitting head pieces.|
Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
Patch on Test? Lemme' update and have a look. I don't see necks mentioned, however.
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Mind you I'm extrapolating here, they could be two separate bugs altogether.
Well, necks appear to have been fixed... Just about:
But that neck tumour is, I think, a symptom of how the system is rigged and predates this bug by a fair bit of time. The way women's heads have attached to their bodies has produced questionable necks since the dawn of creation, so I'm not worried about it. It's only ever present in one specific state of the "looking around" animation and for the most part heads and necks work well.
Sweet!
Now I guess we need to figure out why my girls keep dropping out of combat stance, why they always take their first step with a slower animation and why they can't use inspirations while "awakening" and we'll be set. But I'm happy with fixed necks for the moment
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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I've been playing a guy for some time, and I played a girl with a spiked collar before that. So imagine my surprise when I logged into an old female character last night, only to find her head had shifted to her left shoulder, leaving a very obvious "edge" and a very, very obvious gap that let me see "inside" her body. Luckily for me, our characters are hollow and made of one-way surfaces, and they could live even with their torsos missing, so this wasn't as gruesome as the title implies, but... Come on, now! Just look at this!
I specifically picked the characters I had with short hair or hair that didn't obscure their necks, but that's true for ALL of them, and this is between two servers. and you'd think it's not visible from afar... But it is. Once I know it's there, I can see the edge where the head is shifted to the side even in wide shots.
And, yes, I'm aware of BABs' official animation and effects bugs threads. First of all, this is neither, and second of all, I have lost all faith that this thread is so much as looked at. This just really, really bugs me.