Apparently there is an actual mission for the Destiny crew that will be revealed early this season, might be episode 8. The magic aliens could be a part of that.
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Of course it was stupid since the whole "invasion" could have been resolved simply by either closing off the gate room and evacuating the atmosphere to the point that the invaders would have passed out from lack of oxygen shortly after arriving, or totally venting the atmosphere and letting them die upon arrival.
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Originally Posted by Wayfarer
Can't say I was real thrilled by the season premiere. I found the resolution of the Lucian Alliance takeover of the Destiny to be kind of anticlimactic with no real tension. And the magic aliens save the day storyline was just stupid, possibly the worst bit of writing on the show so far.
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Protagonists in TV shows don't like to make the tough decisions to save themselves. That was originally the plan, but when Telford walked through the gate, the plan was discarded. I am hoping that at least some of the Lucian Alliance will stay aboard to give a darker contrast to the human crew. This show seems too similar to Voyager, but Voyager nerfed the Maquis too quickly while that might not be the case for the Lucian Alliance that work well with others. Only saw two in the entire crew, the women that shot the acting leader and the guy that was marooned with his followers.
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
Of course it was stupid since the whole "invasion" could have been resolved simply by either closing off the gate room and evacuating the atmosphere to the point that the invaders would have passed out from lack of oxygen shortly after arriving, or totally venting the atmosphere and letting them die upon arrival.
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Well to be fair, magic aliens didn't save the day, they saved an innocent and only appeared to one person in a Contact kind of way.
I see it as a way to not saddle the show down with a baby while reducing the trauma of TJ so she's functional next episode.
It's nice to know that their are aliens that exceed the technology of the ancients. While the ancients may have been able to panspermia entire galaxies, even they couldn't Genesis solar systems.
I'm waiting for Eli to make a ST: Voyager joke now they have a group of Lucian Alliance members on board.
Chloe suddenly gets turned into Wolverine. Sudden mutation in space never ends well.
The result of the two part episode was eliminate the baby and adding more permanent cast members on the ship.
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I've been catching up on Season One now and again on netflix. Im not a fan, but i keep watching mostly because it IS a Stargate show and the fanboy in me just can't let go. Im through the first 10 episodes, but can anyone let me know if the show's actually improved, or is it still Stargate Galactica?
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That's why I said they could have lowered the atmosphere to the point where the Lucian's passed out upon arriving as one of their options. Once the gate shut off they could have turned the air back on and disarmed and captured the unconscious invaders. Then they could have taken the prisoners and put each in separate rooms, sealed the doors and vented the air in the corridors outside the "prison cells" which would make any attempt to escape impossible. Then they could have safely dumped the prisoners on the next habitable planet using the shuttle. I say shuttle because common sense says not to put them anywhere on a continent with a stargate because that would remove the possibility of them figuring out how to use the gate to leave and somehow figure out how to follow the Destiny like Eli and the useless lovers did.
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Originally Posted by starphoenix
Protagonists in TV shows don't like to make the tough decisions to save themselves. That was originally the plan, but when Telford walked through the gate, the plan was discarded. I am hoping that at least some of the Lucian Alliance will stay aboard to give a darker contrast to the human crew. This show seems too similar to Voyager, but Voyager nerfed the Maquis too quickly while that might not be the case for the Lucian Alliance that work well with others. Only saw two in the entire crew, the women that shot the acting leader and the guy that was marooned with his followers.
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Originally Posted by Father Xmas
Well to be fair, magic aliens didn't save the day, they saved an innocent and only appeared to one person in a Contact kind of way.
I see it as a way to not saddle the show down with a baby while reducing the trauma of TJ so she's functional next episode. It's nice to know that their are aliens that exceed the technology of the ancients. While the ancients may have been able to panspermia entire galaxies, even they couldn't Genesis solar systems. I'm waiting for Eli to make a ST: Voyager joke now they have a group of Lucian Alliance members on board. Chloe suddenly gets turned into Wolverine. Sudden mutation in space never ends well. The result of the two part episode was eliminate the baby and adding more permanent cast members on the ship. |
I agree with you about the results of part two, and I'm not surprised that there are races more advanced than the Ancients. Once they discovered ascension they gave up on advancing their technology.
Why are these stargates never repositioned so they're over a pit, with drawbridge to allow normal use?
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Did Teabag (from Prison Break) die? The crazy Lucien leader sent him to kill either Rush's group or the group in the infirmary, after that I didn't see him.
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Originally Posted by NinjaPirate
Why are these stargates never repositioned so they're over a pit, with drawbridge to allow normal use?
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Yes, Rush finds the bridge in the next episode and keeps it to himself for a while but he also finds out about the purpose of Destiny and it something of great importance that could ultimately lead to them getting back home while making those stranded accept their place on the ship. We also know from the trailers that Chloe is starting to change for some reason. Hopefully all that helps enhance the show from what it has been. They certainly have invested a lot into the show itself which can be seen through a set tour that Collider posted. Kind of amazing how they have it all set up so that each area can be used for different things just by sliding a wall up or adding a wall someplace.|
Originally Posted by starphoenix
Apparently there is an actual mission for the Destiny crew that will be revealed early this season, might be episode 8. The magic aliens could be a part of that.
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Regarding the thread not being made, I considered it on Tuesday but I have been a little leery ever since the guideline changes.
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Well, they had the iris on the Earth gate and a force field on the Atlantis gate. In both cases that simply meant that the Goa'uld/Orii/Replicators/Wraith had to travel there via FTL instead of through the gate. |
Originally Posted by NinjaPirate
Why are these stargates never repositioned so they're over a pit, with drawbridge to allow normal use?
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To reach Destiny you need a ZPM, which don't seem to be that common, and knowledge of how to dial Destiny, which is apparently even less common than a ZPM, and you have to be willing to make a one way trip because right now there's no dialing back from Destiny. So hacking a big hole in the deck of a ship they don't control or understand and then building a drawbridge probably doesn't seem like a real high priority to the folks stranded on her. Especially since the main threat to Destiny so far appears to be an alien race with superior FTL capabilities who haven't bothered attacking Destiny through the gate so far.
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Yeah, okay, I suppose it wouldn't work for Destiny.
But SG-1 and Atlantis had plenty of cases where, y'know, a great big pit in front of the Gate would have helped immensely.
But what would have worked for Destiny? Positioning guys with rifles to either side of the gate, ready to pop the Lucien Alliance guys in the head as soon as they stepped through.
Or, to save bullets, just position Greer so he can kick people back through the gate as they materialize and are still disoriented.
Maybe he lets Telford through. Dunno, Telford still seemed pretty useless even after he broke his programming.
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Its all about working on a budget. Building a pit around the stargate with a retractable bridge would be an unnecessary expense.
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Originally Posted by NinjaPirate
Yeah, okay, I suppose it wouldn't work for Destiny.
But SG-1 and Atlantis had plenty of cases where, y'know, a great big pit in front of the Gate would have helped immensely. -np |
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My guess is that the room she was left in was the ships med bay, or at least one of them. Some sort of magical healing radiation thingy leak fixed her up. They will find a way to use this effectively so that main cast members can be up and back in action only one episode after being critically injured. Red shirts will of course not make it to the room in time.
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Originally Posted by Father Xmas
Chloe suddenly gets turned into Wolverine. Sudden mutation in space never ends well.
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out of curiosity, didn't it require the geothermal energy of an entire planet in order to send folk to Destiny in the first place? or were they smart enough to realize ZPMs were developed after Destiny was launched and they could just use one of those (it's not like they can't find where to lay hands on one) to dial out to the Destiny? Also, just because they're still digging around in the Atlantis database (one would assume), they might eventually find a way to build their own ZPMs and couldnt they just bring a ZPM with them upon gating to the Destiny and hook that up to a planet based gate and zap themselves home?
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Originally Posted by Wayfarer
To reach Destiny you need a ZPM, which don't seem to be that common, and knowledge of how to dial Destiny, which is apparently even less common than a ZPM, and you have to be willing to make a one way trip because right now there's no dialing back from Destiny.
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You are correct, they were using a power source way, WAY more powerful than even ZPMs can achieve.
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I wonder if all the ZPMs that the Pegasus replicators had or could make would be enough.
On a starship the easiest way to defend a gate is to put it in a cargo bay like room and vent the atmosphere if an unfamiliar wormhole is incoming.
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Or put it in a cargo bay like room and leave the atmosphere vented whenever you're not actually using it.
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
On a starship the easiest way to defend a gate is to put it in a cargo bay like room and vent the atmosphere if an unfamiliar wormhole is incoming.
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"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." -- Dinobot
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Which brings up the question on how many alien exploration teams were killed because of the Iris or buried stargates. Not all races have the technology to create a robot to see if the other side is safe and unobstructed.
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Originally Posted by Wayfarer
Or put it in a cargo bay like room and leave the atmosphere vented whenever you're not actually using it.
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i think this might have more to do with the blue meanies she and rush encountered. of course, does this now give rush something as well?|
Originally Posted by Mandu
My guess is that the room she was left in was the ships med bay, or at least one of them. Some sort of magical healing radiation thingy leak fixed her up. They will find a way to use this effectively so that main cast members can be up and back in action only one episode after being critically injured. Red shirts will of course not make it to the room in time.
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i can't help but wonder as well about the lucien alliance invaders as well. ex jaffa right? goauld juniors spread liberally about the ship seems an odd choice for a long term mission. admittedly, i have no idea how long it takes for a junior to turn senior, and maybe there's an opportunity for a benign goauld to be written into the mix.
tj and the chosen one. psychotic break? a deus ex that solves all problems? not sure how i feel about another magical mystery race on the edge (one way or the other) of ascension...
/still on the fence, but the barbed wire is chafing
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Well, we know that some explorers from other planets have splatted on the iris because that was covered in SG-1.
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Originally Posted by starphoenix
Which brings up the question on how many alien exploration teams were killed because of the Iris or buried stargates. Not all races have the technology to create a robot to see if the other side is safe and unobstructed.
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"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." -- Dinobot
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No, I think the Lucian Alliance are mainly just humans with access to high technology. They're largely a crime syndicate composed of smugglers and mercenaries that have seized political power after the fall of the Goa'uld if I recall correctly.
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Originally Posted by spice_weasel
i can't help but wonder as well about the lucien alliance invaders as well. ex jaffa right?
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"Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good and let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence." -- Dinobot
Seeing as there isn't a thread for it I figured I'd start one for the SGU season premiere.
I don't know why I keep watching this show because I'm really not a fan of it. I don't like most of the characters, many of the actors don't particularly thrill me, and I hate the writing. Yet I keep watching. Go figure.
Can't say I was real thrilled by the season premiere. I found the resolution of the Lucian Alliance takeover of the Destiny to be kind of anticlimactic with no real tension. And the magic aliens save the day storyline was just stupid, possibly the worst bit of writing on the show so far.
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