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While you and I might think of doing that, we have rarely seen anyone do that on the SG shows. Everyone blindly assumes the other side has a non toxic breathable atmosphere, the inhabitants speak English, and everyone lives within walking distance of a gate.|
Originally Posted by Mandu
And people in spacesuits could still come through.
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Oh and even tho they are billions of light years from earth with no hope of being resupplied, their guns never run out of ammunition. They may run out of food, water, even air but they always got plenty of bullets.
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Or puddle jumpers or that prototype Goa'uld death glider designed to "thread the needle" or...
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Originally Posted by Mandu
Or to put a large mass inside the ring which will prevent the gate from operating. As opposed to putting something close to the event horizon which will allow the gate to open but won't allow the vortex to form or matter to fully materialize. If you just leave it in a vented cargo bay people could still send MALPs or some such through. Even ones which carry explosives. And people in spacesuits could still come through.
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i dont know if it's really all that much more powerful. they tapped the energy of a planet, and it caused it to become unstable. they used to use a full ZPM to establish a connection to Atlantis a few times before even considering whether or not it would run dry. Presumably, if they tapped a ZPM generator or whatever that thing in Atlantis is that holds 3 of the buggers, they could easily drum up the power to dial the Destiny. |
Originally Posted by NinjaPirate
You are correct, they were using a power source way, WAY more powerful than even ZPMs can achieve.
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unless theyve said otherwise in the show, but that just sounds stupid.
If a ZPM was powerful enough to reach the Destiny they could have dialed from Atlantis. Furthermore they can't just use the power from the core of any planet to establish a wormhole to the Destiny. The Ancients facility was built into the planet Icarus which had a unique naquadria core which provided sufficient power to dial a 9th chevron address. This world was the only world ever discovered to naturally produce Naquadria.
The Lucien Alliance had discovered another Icarus type planet with a naturally occurring naquadria core and set up a base so they could attack the Destiny. Both planets blew up so unless Earth can find a third planet Icarus type planet they can't dial the Destiny.
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Of course, even if those planet types are exceedingly rare. The number of planets that inhabit a given galaxy make it a statistical probability that there are going to be hundreds or even thousands of them. Needle in a haystack.
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
If a ZPM was powerful enough to reach the Destiny they could have dialed from Atlantis. Furthermore they can't just use the power from the core of any planet to establish a wormhole to the Destiny. The Ancients facility was built into the planet Icarus which had a unique naquadria core which provided sufficient power to dial a 9th chevron address. This world was the only world ever discovered to naturally produce Naquadria.
The Lucien Alliance had discovered another Icarus type planet with a naturally occurring naquadria core and set up a base so they could attack the Destiny. Both planets blew up so unless Earth can find a third planet Icarus type planet they can't dial the Destiny. |
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Originally Posted by Mandu
Or to put a large mass inside the ring which will prevent the gate from operating.
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There's been a few different times where a Gate was buried, but were still able to be activated somehow, and the "backwash" was able to clear the immediate obstruction.
The time Jack was trapped on a planet for several weeks after a meteor storm buried the Gate comes to mind. A direct meteor strike buried the Gate and flash-melted the rock in the area into a solid mass. The SG team was still able to dial in somehow, and sent Teal'c through with rock-boring gear to clear the remaining obstructions.
I still think the funniest option is to just have Greer kick people back through the gate as they come in.
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The episode you are thinking of is "A Hundred Days" in which the gate was active when it was hit which created an iris type situation where the gate could still be dialed. To get through, a particle beam was used to clear an area so Teal'c could get through.
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Originally Posted by Veritech
I've been catching up on Season One now and again on netflix. Im not a fan, but i keep watching mostly because it IS a Stargate show and the fanboy in me just can't let go. Im through the first 10 episodes, but can anyone let me know if the show's actually improved, or is it still Stargate Galactica?
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I'm not sure if I'll bother watching it this season. I suppose I'll go ahead and give it a try simply because I watched all of season 1 and they look like maybe they have a clue where to go this season. But it is low on my list of shows, I'm more watching it because of inertia than because I like it.
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Even if Stargate Command does find another planet that is suitable, and builds a facility that can safely establish a wormhole without blowing up the planet, that means they can only resupply the Destiny.|
Originally Posted by Starmage21
Of course, even if those planet types are exceedingly rare. The number of planets that inhabit a given galaxy make it a statistical probability that there are going to be hundreds or even thousands of them. Needle in a haystack.
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The Destiny doesn't have the power to dial back, and it doesn't have the resources to search and build another base that can dial Earth. It's highly unlikely that if they did find a planet that far out that it would have been seeded with a rudimentary stargate, and the shuttle they have isn't big enough to move a lot of the materials they'd need to build a facility to tap the planets core. Also if the planet doesn't have a stargate, where are they going to get one? The one in the Destiny is too big to fit thru the doors.
Are they supposed to run an extension cord from the planet up to the ship in orbit?
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pure, idle speculation here, but the destiny is following one or more gate seeding ships along a path, determined or not. with rush finding some control options at the end of season 1 and a 'bridge' soonish, then an opportunity may exist to both control the seed ship[s] and potentially gate to/from them. this then allows for a significant source of parts, materials creation (if billions of light years have been traveled, internal storage of gates would be extremely limited, the gates 'must' be manufactured onboard/planet surface from naquada found along the way), and extended exploration space for things not on destiny. extended information from the seed ships likely being sent back to destiny could then allow for another naquada planet to be identified, and perhaps, the magical mystery race that created the castaway planet solar system as either the seed ship dropped a gate there, or the mmr created a gate and injected the information into destiny.|
Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
Even if Stargate Command does find another planet that is suitable, and builds a facility that can safely establish a wormhole without blowing up the planet, that means they can only resupply the Destiny.
The Destiny doesn't have the power to dial back, and it doesn't have the resources to search and build another base that can dial Earth. It's highly unlikely that if they did find a planet that far out that it would have been seeded with a rudimentary stargate, and the shuttle they have isn't big enough to move a lot of the materials they'd need to build a facility to tap the planets core. Also if the planet doesn't have a stargate, where are they going to get one? The one in the Destiny is too big to fit thru the doors. Are they supposed to run an extension cord from the planet up to the ship in orbit? |
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The Destiny has the ability to tap directly into massive power sources that the folks back home still can't: The stars themselves.
Whatever energy levels even a naquadria planet might provide, a star probably outputs more.
-np
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They already tried that and it almost destroyed the ship. They were lucky Rush convinced Telford it was too late and stopped the dialing sequence after Telford fled like the cowardly dog he is.
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Originally Posted by NinjaPirate
The Destiny has the ability to tap directly into massive power sources that the folks back home still can't: The stars themselves.
Whatever energy levels even a naquadria planet might provide, a star probably outputs more. -np |
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Rush also didn't say it was the WRONG solution, just that they didn't understand how to do it well enough to not blow up the ship.|
Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
They already tried that and it almost destroyed the ship. They were lucky Rush convinced Telford it was too late and stopped the dialing sequence after Telford fled like the cowardly dog he is.
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These new aliens could probably help with that but it's unlikely that it will happen any time soon since that will end the show.
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Originally Posted by NinjaPirate
Rush also didn't say it was the WRONG solution, just that they didn't understand how to do it well enough to not blow up the ship.
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The new aliens will probably never help with something that major at any time since they have said that Destiny does have a purpose and it is something that could get everyone back home in the end.
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sounds like a job for Stargate SCIENCE! Get Rodney, Zelenka, and Sam on it. They'll have them home in two, maybe three episodes. |
Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
These new aliens could probably help with that but it's unlikely that it will happen any time soon since that will end the show.
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Again not likely to happen for the very reason you described. Instead the audience is going to have to suffer thru episode after episode of bad scripts until the show finally dies off.
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Originally Posted by Veritech
sounds like a job for Stargate SCIENCE! Get Rodney, Zelenka, and Sam on it. They'll have them home in two, maybe three episodes.
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Is there a room that can Contain Rodney, Zelenka, Sam, Rush and Eli?
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Originally Posted by Veritech
sounds like a job for Stargate SCIENCE! Get Rodney, Zelenka, and Sam on it. They'll have them home in two, maybe three episodes.
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Well Rodney does have an episode coming up midway through the season and part of the focus is going to be on a planet near earth. [/url=http://www.gateworld.net/news/2010/10/how-sguatlantis-crossover-is-like-the-pegasus-project/]There is some more information about it at Gateworld.net where it is compared to the Pegasus Project episode of SG-1.[/url]
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Originally Posted by Veritech
sounds like a job for Stargate SCIENCE! Get Rodney, Zelenka, and Sam on it. They'll have them home in two, maybe three episodes.
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Getting the stargate working to travel between Destiny and the Milky Way galaxy doesn't have to be the end of the show. It could just be an evolution. They wouldn't have some of the problems they currently do but I would imagine they'd still want a research team on the Destiny to study it and take stock of whatever it finds. Not to mention someone should probably be keeping on eye on the new aliens.
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That would involve things like hiring writers. Creating likable characters. (that includes well developed "villains" you love to hate) Getting rid of that damn shaky cam.
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Originally Posted by Wayfarer
Getting the stargate working to travel between Destiny and the Milky Way galaxy doesn't have to be the end of the show. It could just be an evolution. They wouldn't have some of the problems they currently do but I would imagine they'd still want a research team on the Destiny to study it and take stock of whatever it finds. Not to mention someone should probably be keeping on eye on the new aliens.
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my thoughts exactly. Atlantis started off as if was going to be something akin to this. then they evolved past that after the first season. but that's too much hope for the current Stargate since they're so bound and determined to make it unlike the other shows in the franchise. |
Originally Posted by Wayfarer
Getting the stargate working to travel between Destiny and the Milky Way galaxy doesn't have to be the end of the show. It could just be an evolution. They wouldn't have some of the problems they currently do but I would imagine they'd still want a research team on the Destiny to study it and take stock of whatever it finds. Not to mention someone should probably be keeping on eye on the new aliens.
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
That would involve things like hiring writers. Creating likable characters. (that includes well developed "villains" you love to hate) Getting rid of that damn shaky cam.
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Are you referring to Sgt Greer or Lt Chesty McBewbs?
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Originally Posted by Veritech
they have at least ONE likeable character... but yeah, i'd like the thing to look more like a stargate show and less like BSG.
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