Patience for Salvage LOW


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Does anyone else get so fed up collecting salvage for their recipes that they quit crafting? I've amassed almost all the Thunderstrikes I need for my Blaster, but I just get so fed up going through my vault, SG storage, and the Market that I put off crafting for days.

Aside from the too many storage sources, I just can't stand some of the prices on select pieces of salvage. It's not that I can't afford it, mind you. Spending millions on some common salvage just goes against my principles, so I have to wait days to get it at a reasonable price.

I know that's the reality of the Market, but <whine>I want my uber build now!</whine>

Does anyone have any pointers in maintaining patience? Every once in awhile I spend the BUY NOW price, but I feel dirty afterwards...


 

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I buy all salvage now. Want to charge me a million for a common I need? I'll buy it.


 

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I also suffer from Must-Craft-Now Syndrome.
ie I pay whatever it takes to get the salvage I need.


 

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Tickets ?

If you feel its to expensive you have tickets, if the price isn't high enough to make it worthwhile to use tickets its obviously not too expensive.


 

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I've never used base storage for invention salvage, and I virtually never use the vault system either. I just buy whatever I need, either at a buy-it-within-fifteen-minutes price, or a buy-it-now-price, or I put in an overnight bid and go on to something else.

My buy-it-now prices usually have caps though. I rarely spend more than 100,000 for common salvage, although I'll easily fork over 50,000 to 75,000. If the price climbs to 200,000 or above I'll use tickets or bid overnight. Similarly, I'm happy paying 2 million for almost any rare salvage, but I don't think I should ever pay more than 3 million (which I did a few times this weekend). It's not that I can't afford it, it's just that I don't want to pay that much.



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Originally Posted by Chaos Creator View Post
I buy all salvage now. Want to charge me a million for a common I need? I'll buy it.
I will apparently pay 200 million, given my other thread!


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I usually do not have a lot of time to spend in game so I tend to do buy it now prices for salvage in order to get a build done or at least to a place where I feel comfortable testing it out. However, that does sometime create a bit of a burnout for a particular toon and I may not go back to it right away or even finish the build right off.


 

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Originally Posted by Organica View Post
I've never used base storage for invention salvage, and I virtually never use the vault system either. I just buy whatever I need, either at a buy-it-within-fifteen-minutes price, or a buy-it-now-price, or I put in an overnight bid and go on to something else.

My buy-it-now prices usually have caps though. I rarely spend more than 100,000 for common salvage, although I'll easily fork over 50,000 to 75,000. If the price climbs to 200,000 or above I'll use tickets or bid overnight. Similarly, I'm happy paying 2 million for almost any rare salvage, but I don't think I should ever pay more than 3 million (which I did a few times this weekend). It's not that I can't afford it, it's just that I don't want to pay that much.
The bolded sums up my little quirk pretty well. It's mostly because of this that I get fed up with crafting.

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Tickets ?

If you feel its to expensive you have tickets, if the price isn't high enough to make it worthwhile to use tickets its obviously not too expensive.
This is yet another source of salvage to check! I suppose grinding out some tickets to spend on immediate salvage isn't so bad. It kind of replaces one issue with another, since that's my favorite way to get recipes.

I just need to try and get over my quirk, I guess. It's the most convenient way, and my laziness is top priority.


 

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I figure I save far far more being patient on the recipe. If I have the recipe in hand and theres even a single piece of the salvage I need on the market....its getting bought.

I have never used the salvage racks in my SG base for anything short of Rare pieces. Nowadays I dont even do that. Its not worth it. The market is my salvage rack.


 

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Originally Posted by Gehnen View Post
Does anyone else get so fed up collecting salvage for their recipes that they quit crafting? I've amassed almost all the Thunderstrikes I need for my Blaster, but I just get so fed up going through my vault, SG storage, and the Market that I put off crafting for days.
For whole days? My god, how do you live?

Seriously, TSrikes require no rares. Put your (reasonable) bids in, go to sleep, wake up and craft the next day.

I paid some semi-Nao prices last night on a lowbie praetorian to craft a jet pack, cuz I didn't wanna schlep him all the way to some day job spot (thank you for not giving me Day Trader in Praetoria, devs), then ninja run back the next day to save a few K, so I bought a few AlSil's for like 56K (true Nao pricing would be >100K, mind you). On principle tho, I normally would've bid under that and come back in a day or two, even though a few K are so utterly insignificant, it shouldn't even occur to me to count them.


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I buy all salvage now. Want to charge me a million for a common I need? I'll buy it.
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I've never used base storage for invention salvage, and I virtually never use the vault system either. I just buy whatever I need, either at a buy-it-within-fifteen-minutes price, or a buy-it-now-price, or I put in an overnight bid and go on to something else.
me three.

One of the reasons I so diligently fill my massive underground tanks with liquid inf is so I don't have to care what anything costs. If you've got enough inf on hand you *can* use the market like a store, provided there's at least a bit of supply. Or send your buddy a billion inf to help out on a SG project he's working on. =P

If I'm crafting for sale I'm a bit more cautious, but still bid aggressively enough to get my junk overnight.

The vault is useless to me because when I'm staring at a recipe I've just bought in the market interface I have no way to telling what's in storage. I used to use it back when I was crafting generic end mods because supply of Demonic Blood Samples was unreliable, so I'd stuff as many as I could in the vault for a rainy day. Other than that, basically my bases have vaults because they look cool.

If the market interface 'knew' what you had in your vault when you were examining recipes or whatever, *that* would make them really handy.


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Originally Posted by Organica View Post
I've never used base storage for invention salvage, and I virtually never use the vault system either. I just buy whatever I need, either at a buy-it-within-fifteen-minutes price, or a buy-it-now-price, or I put in an overnight bid and go on to something else.

My buy-it-now prices usually have caps though. I rarely spend more than 100,000 for common salvage, although I'll easily fork over 50,000 to 75,000. If the price climbs to 200,000 or above I'll use tickets or bid overnight. Similarly, I'm happy paying 2 million for almost any rare salvage, but I don't think I should ever pay more than 3 million (which I did a few times this weekend). It's not that I can't afford it, it's just that I don't want to pay that much.
This pretty much sums how I operate. I rarely bid over 100k on common or uncommons, but if that one piece of salvage is the only thing between me and finishing a build, I'm going to buy it. Right now.

What I do hate, though, is my habit to start bidding low and then having to rebid insignificant amounts of influence. It doesn't really matter anymore whether I spend 1k, 50k or 100k on a common salvage, but I often end up bidding 3 or 4 times to get a common. It's hard to break old habits.


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I think I should add a not about how I use base storage. I have two inspiration storage items; that holds just about whatever I think I should need. I have two... maybe three salvage storage bins, which is sufficient (although admittedly I mostly ignore them and the oldest ones are still packed with hundreds of obsolete base storage items, but also stacks of Halloween storage).

Then after that... I have nine enhancement storage tables... almost always stuffed full of crafted IOs (so something like 750+ crafted IOs in storage). Because having the IO you need already crafted seems like the best solution to me. ^_^



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I hate crafting so much I pay friends to do it. I usually give them a couple hundred mil for crafting like 20 recipies.
I get my influence by providing this service to anyone who wants to pay me. I am eeebillll.


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It doesn't really matter anymore whether I spend 1k, 50k or 100k on a common salvage, but I often end up bidding 3 or 4 times to get a common. It's hard to break old habits.
just do what I do and bid a flat rate whatever they're selling at.

At 5555 for common 9999 for uncommons I hardly ever have to re-bid.
When I *do*, I overpay wildly to make sure I don't have to make a third bid. =P


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Base and Vault salvage is only useful if you can find what you need easily. I craft in the base since it's easiest for me. I have 10 bins of base salvage which are grouped sort of alphabetically. Ie, bin 1 is salvage A-B, bin 2 is C-D, bin 3 is E-H, etc... The vault is rare salvage (2+ mill) only. To make sure that I have enough diversity, I try to keep a max of 5 of each salvage, so I don't have a bin with just 20 silvers.
After each mission, I dump salvage here and sell the extras on the market. If salvage prices on the market are weird, I'd rather not feed the price fixers so I go to AE and roll salvage. I usually get what I need in 10 tries and then I store or sell the rest.


 

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I still don't believe in price fixers on the merged markets. On the other hand, if you really want to spend tickets to get salvage that would have cost at most 100k or so, instead of to get recipes that are worth 10-20M, I can't really stop you.


 

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Base and Vault salvage is only useful if you can find what you need easily. I craft in the base since it's easiest for me. I have 10 bins of base salvage which are grouped sort of alphabetically. Ie, bin 1 is salvage A-B, bin 2 is C-D, bin 3 is E-H, etc... The vault is rare salvage (2+ mill) only. To make sure that I have enough diversity, I try to keep a max of 5 of each salvage, so I don't have a bin with just 20 silvers.
After each mission, I dump salvage here and sell the extras on the market. If salvage prices on the market are weird, I'd rather not feed the price fixers so I go to AE and roll salvage. I usually get what I need in 10 tries and then I store or sell the rest.
whenever I see these sort of elaborate plans to save inf I scratch my head in confusion.

From a time invested standpoint stop at market, sell junk, stockpile inf trumps stockpile junk.

And time is the only really meaningful currency in any MMO.


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I still don't believe in price fixers on the merged markets. On the other hand, if you really want to spend tickets to get salvage that would have cost at most 100k or so, instead of to get recipes that are worth 10-20M, I can't really stop you.
As I said, I do do this on occasion. I didn't say it was logical.



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As I said, I do do this on occasion. I didn't say it was logical.
Logic? On the internet? You must be crazy!


 

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So it's my stupid quirk that's killing my motivation. I've forced myself to BUY NOW on salvage, and crafting has (of course) become less of a chore. I don't mind waiting for recipes, but once I have that sucker, I want to create it! Now that I'm weaning myself off of that mental hang-up, things have eased.

I couldn't bring myself to spend precious tickets on salvage rather than recipes, though. It's just bad economy in the long run.

This is one of those cases where "Suck it up, n00b!" has actually worked on me. Thanks guys!


 

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Originally Posted by Gehnen View Post
So it's my stupid quirk that's killing my motivation. I've forced myself to BUY NOW on salvage, and crafting has (of course) become less of a chore. I don't mind waiting for recipes, but once I have that sucker, I want to create it! Now that I'm weaning myself off of that mental hang-up, things have eased.

I couldn't bring myself to spend precious tickets on salvage rather than recipes, though. It's just bad economy in the long run.

This is one of those cases where "Suck it up, n00b!" has actually worked on me. Thanks guys!
suck it up n00b!

Oh you already did, I see.