i dont think so... regen of the AV might be too high compared to damage of the stalker
Good point, I guess it would be kind of hard to keep the damage going long enough to make a real dent in an AV. But it would be totally cool to see someone pull it off on a stalker 
Stalkers have enough DPS to kill any non-resistant, non-godmoding, non-healing AV, but their squishiness and low hp can be a problem against heavy hitters
So... what would a Stalker who can solo an AV look like? Have folks actually done it, or was that a statement from theory, Silverado?
Matter of fact, I soloed my first AV just a few days ago on a stalker, an even-con Hro'Dtohz in AE. Just now I managed to tank two of them simultaneously while I killed one (although the second one killed me because I wasn't paying attention and ran out of end). I'm running a NB/elec build that is soft-capped to range, soft-caps to melee with one application of DA, and has 35% AoE defense, plus all the resistances /elec gives me except Grounded. I run with all my armor toggles, CJ, maneuvers, both fighting toggles, and hover, all with no stamina. Just Physical Perfection and a Numina proc.
DPS is pretty low (around 118 when I took down Hro'Dtohz) as I'm still working to afford all the purples for my damage powers and whatnot. Also I'm actually missing Golden Dragonfly from my build right now, so... there's a lot of room for improvement there.
I haven't tried many others yet, as I'm waiting til I get my DPS up, but I'm mostly happy with my survivability so far. No DDR and only 1540 health hurts me in certain cases, but I'm doing my best to learn to work around those limitations.
I'll let you know in about 3 more levels. 
Stalkers have the DPS, that's easy to figure out.
My KM/WP will be at the health cap, with softcapped S/L Defense, and about 39% E/N Defense.
The health I don't figure should be to much of a problem, as I can't picture /SR scrappers having all that much more health than a max HP stalker.
For example...Stalkers have 1606, and if I recall, Bill Z Bubba's Claws/SR Scrapper is sitting around the 1800 range. That's just 200 more health, which gives a little bit more leeway, but I wouldn't think by much.
For my KM/WP, I'll be using SB - BB - FB - SB - BB - CS - repeat, replacing FB with placate + AS about every 2 or 3 strings.
The main DPS string according to mids (with my slotting and accounting for arcanatime), is 167.53
However, this doesn't account for Assassin Strike, as I have no idea how to figure out AS's damage from placate (would I just double what mids shows or not?).
This doesn't account for missing either, which I figure will drop it to roughly 155ish (on the regular chain).
This won't have Stalkers soloing GMs, but I don't see AVs being a problem, outside of surviving them, and with some defense thrown in, I don't see that being a problem.
END issues will be a problem if not taken into account as well, and I think my build has the end covered (will for sure in i19 
)...all that's left is those 3 levels (well and getting that PvP IO, but I'll start trying to solo AVs before I get that bought 
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I am loving the way this sounds, so it can be done, just not easy then?
My DM/Nin could, prior to my stripping IOs off in a [series of] respec[s]. She'd be hard-pressed to do it now with nothing slotted.
It's not as easily done as with some ATs or build combinations, but it's certainly possible.
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I highly doubt an AV with high regen and god-mode can be soloed by any Brute/Scrapper. They'll run out endurance eventually.
I believe Stalker can solo most AVs/Heroes that can be soloed by Scrapper/Brute. Besides having lower HP, Stalker has Assassin Strike to back up the loss of some dps and it's not like Stalker's dps is that low with base 10% critical.
What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.
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Does Recluse have high regen? My Dark/Dark/Soul mastery Brute soloed him. Granted it took forever, but it went down.
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I highly doubt an AV with high regen and god-mode can be soloed by any Brute/Scrapper. They'll run out endurance eventually.
I believe Stalker can solo most AVs/Heroes that can be soloed by Scrapper/Brute. Besides having lower HP, Stalker has Assassin Strike to back up the loss of some dps and it's not like Stalker's dps is that low with base 10% critical. |
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I highly doubt an AV with high regen and god-mode can be soloed by any Brute/Scrapper. They'll run out endurance eventually.
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My BS/Regen would beg to differ.
ON-TOPIC: There's no reason a Stalker shouldn't be able to solo an AV. Once I get my Claws/Will in shape for it, I'll report back.
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Wait, so does that mean that Scrapper/Brute have better end management/ways to get end back, then Stalkers? Or is it all about the slotting? I mean for the most part couldn't you IO up a Stalker about almost the same way you would a Scrapper/Brute?
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I highly doubt an AV with high regen and god-mode can be soloed by any Brute/Scrapper. They'll run out endurance eventually.
I believe Stalker can solo most AVs/Heroes that can be soloed by Scrapper/Brute. Besides having lower HP, Stalker has Assassin Strike to back up the loss of some dps and it's not like Stalker's dps is that low with base 10% critical. |
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My BS/Regen would beg to differ.
ON-TOPIC: There's no reason a Stalker shouldn't be able to solo an AV. Once I get my Claws/Will in shape for it, I'll report back. |
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Most brutes/scrappers have MUCH better ways to get end back/end management abilities. Regen, and willpower scrappers/brutes get quick recovery for example, where stalkers dont.
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Wait, so does that mean that Scrapper/Brute have better end management/ways to get end back, then Stalkers? Or is it all about the slotting? I mean for the most part couldn't you IO up a Stalker about almost the same way you would a Scrapper/Brute?
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Originally Posted by EvilGeko
My BS/Regen would beg to differ.
ON-TOPIC: There's no reason a Stalker shouldn't be able to solo an AV. Once I get my Claws/Will in shape for it, I'll report back. |
And there are many types of AV in the game. Are we talking about the real ones with purple triangle or just some AV in AE mission? Those are much easier to deal with and I am sure Stalker can handle them.
Are we talking about you soloing Ghost Widow or something similar?
What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.
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I thought we were talking about soloing AVs in general, during missions.|
Originally Posted by Jibikao
What does BS/Regen Scrapper have that is much better than BS/Regen Stalker?? Besides not having stamina-type of power, is Stalker's dps that much lower?
And there are many types of AV in the game. Are we talking about the real ones with purple triangle or just some AV in AE mission? Those are much easier to deal with and I am sure Stalker can handle them. Are we talking about you soloing Ghost Widow or something similar? |
Will all AVs beable to be soloed? Of course not. Scrappers and Brutes can't even solo every AV (Domique is a pain!).
As for end management, build for it. It's not like those /SR Scrapper/Brutes have QR and they solo AVs.
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Yeah that's my point. Scrapper/Brute have access to Quick Recovery and all of sudden they can solo AVs and Stalker can't? I don't think any of my Stalker is that weak. |
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I thought we were talking about soloing AVs in general, during missions.
Will all AVs beable to be soloed? Of course not. Scrappers and Brutes can't even solo every AV (Domique is a pain!). As for end management, build for it. It's not like those /SR Scrapper/Brutes have QR and they solo AVs. |
If it's about endurance management, you can slot Numina and Miracle or even get accolade to increase your max. endurance bar. That should be enough?
I have soloed some AVs with Bane and Night Widow. NW is a bit easier only because of her god mode allowing me to slash nonstop. My Bane has end problems for very very long fight. I still need to put unique in him.
What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.
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Yeah that's my point. Scrapper/Brute have access to Quick Recovery and all of sudden they can solo AVs and Stalker can't? I don't think any of my Stalker is that weak.
If it's about endurance management, you can slot Numina and Miracle or even get accolade to increase your max. endurance bar. That should be enough? I have soloed some AVs with Bane and Night Widow. NW is a bit easier only because of her god mode allowing me to slash nonstop. My Bane has end problems for very very long fight. I still need to put unique in him. |
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Spec Energy Mastery and get Phys. Perfection + Superior Conditioning. Slot a Performance Shifter Chance for +End into Phys. Perfection. Did that on my Fire/Fire Brute and his endurance issues vanished.
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What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.
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Originally Posted by Jibikao
By the way, how does Performance Shift work in passive powers? The game checks once every 10s?
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Every 10 seconds you get an end bonus.
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Every 10s the game checks for a chance to give +end.. 20% I assume? I've never slotted that kind of power in passive.
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Every 10 seconds you get an end bonus.
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What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.
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Originally Posted by Jibikao
What does BS/Regen Scrapper have that is much better than BS/Regen Stalker?? Besides not having stamina-type of power, is Stalker's dps that much lower?
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), and a few others I can't recall right now.All in missions, all even con. Not all without inspirations, all without temp powers.
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Actually it procs every 10 seconds. That's essentially 1 extra endurance per second recovery. So it's a very VERY noticeable boost. Considering the jump Sup. Conditioning gives, you get even more back as it's based on percentage of max endurance. It literally fixes any endurance problems you may have unless you take every toggle you possibly can and run them all at once.
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Well, that's not a 100%.
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I have been wondering this for sometime now, sorry if this has been asked before. Can a Stalker really be an AV killer? I have seen so many other Archetypes pull it off, but I don't think I have ever seen or heard of a Stalker doing it.