War witch we have a code red lame alert!

oh im very happy about the non purple/pvp io options but those other numbers are just too lame.

Originally Posted by Black_Barrier Guess it's hard to click while actively trying to keep the drool away from the keyboard...

Oh, that plan always works....

you only pay attention like half the time. thats not what this topic is about.

yes 1 locked. 1 deleted bc of being too similar. 1 remains. 1 was a question that is still there.

i know you hate that im still here despite your efforts

Originally Posted by Black_Barrier Guess it's hard to click while actively trying to keep the drool away from the keyboard...

wow just wow.

i'm talking about lame systems being lame. go ahead and get 1 respec, purp or pvp io and come back to tell me how reasonable, fun and exciting it was please.

Originally Posted by Black_Barrier Guess it's hard to click while actively trying to keep the drool away from the keyboard...

guess it's time for you to take a break away from the game then. what is lame for you is obviously not what the devs consider to be lame. it falls in line with what they want. go back to the PvP forums now.

yes they drop in pvp, but thats it

they have more benifit in pve (every bonus short of range and recov bonuses are nerfed to **** by DR and are pointless) and they exemp down in pve. there is really no point in calling them pvp ios anymore. it was a dev failed attempt to improve pvp(if not, it was just a bad idea in general). they should either stop calling them pvp ios and give them a purp-ish drop rate in pve, fix the pvp drop rate, or fix pvp.

having pvp rewards earnable in pve is a really stupid idea anyway.

I do agree that purple recipes are a bit much. having them on par with respec recipes in the 10-15 merit range is fair. Or you could give them a small chance to drop when you do the random rolls.

there have been lots of changes bc of feedback, negativity and complaints and i would be doing this game a disservice by just letting things slide and sitting back saying that the game is perfect.

well if i wasn't forced to pve in order to pvp then i wouldnt be around these parts now would i?

btw you all never thanked me for free server transfers.

Originally Posted by Black_Barrier Guess it's hard to click while actively trying to keep the drool away from the keyboard...

Yeah you tried that lame excuse in the other threads you started about respecs.

1. War witch we have a code red lame alert!

2. i think we should get a freespec per active build when they are given out.

3. 2 ?s

4. 2 builds, 1 freespec?

5. freespecs

6. 2 more ?'s Deleted by mods

And these are only the ones I participated in, there could easily be more considering the way you refuse to let your agendas go.

Face it you aren't going to get them to change things just so you can get more respecs. Everything is working as intended.

I don't need to make any efforts at all. You got your own threads locked and deleted, but if it makes you feel better to paint me as the villain in this quest for more respecs, go right ahead. I'm flattered that you put so much thought into my role in this.

umm.... yeah. i doubt you had anything to do with them. and guess what? they are not going to give you an automatic 50 button with free io's to PvP. nice dream though.

edit: forgot to add, if you want to get a devs attention pm one.

Get thee gone wicked wingie. We'll have none of your logical sort about.

I really don't understand why people would be against this.

i mean just make it so that said character couldn't hold infulence, enter a pve zone nor participate in any pve content and essentially shut the character off from anything pve related. it be a nice "we're sorry" for getting absolutely no support from the dev team for 4 issues. if nothing else, it'd be nice to have this on test (since thats were alot of pvp happens now anyway)

1. reward/economy topic

2. what does the community think about it topic that was locked.

3. info gathering topic on multi build use but still there.

4. direct statement about freespecs but still there.

5. question on why we get freespecs but still there.

6. the too similar of a topic to multi builds which was about incarnate builds got deleted.

7. you stalking, pestering me and hardly being on topic is kinda creepy so i may have to put you on ignore.

Originally Posted by Black_Barrier Guess it's hard to click while actively trying to keep the drool away from the keyboard...

uh.. probably because they don't want people whining and crying to put it live? just a guess but i'll bet it's darn close to what they are thinking.

what would be so bad about it on live? literally all the character would be good for is pvp
>.>

I have gotten several purples in the course of getting my PvP IO. Which admittedly I haven't gotten yet, but by the time I do I'll probably have earned enough inf to buy a second one. It's still fun, especially the one with the wave after wave of Malta, the one with the Nazis and the one where I rescue Ravenstorm and he aggros the whole room and dies.

I'm not going to get a respec recipe because I don't need them, I have several unused vetspecs and if those run out I can do a trial. I use Mids.

ok, so are you going to pick which zone to get stuck in? and how about those io's you don't have and can't slot? and infl? yeah right. can't get that either. so you have an io'less, infl'less toon that does no good in PvP. yeah, i don't see that being a bad thing.

look, i PvP just as much as the next guy and hate the changes just as much as the next guy, but they will not touch PvP until it can be done right. that is straight out of castle's mouth. sitting here 5 issues after and still whining like a baby is doing nothing. all it will do is draw negative attention instead of the positive you claim you are trying to get.

you could easily set it up to have said toon travel to each pvp zone, or even set up a tram in each pvp zone closing of the normal exits to those toons. or they could just set it so that you can travel in pve zones but all your powers are disabled, like in walk or something like that. as well as allowing you toon to slot anything after you're done picking the powers and slotting the slots. again, if they use even a small amount of thought, they could do something like this correctly.

yea, O_I does it in probably the least respectable way as possible, but you can't honetly say that the pvp comm is just as well off by shutting the hell up and dealing with a broken system as they are bringing it up as much as possible and trying to get a change. this isn't about doing pvp correctly, yea it would be time consuming but alot of people aren't asking for an overhaul, just a reversion which would be the easiest thing to do and make the most sense. the real problem is the ignoring of a playerbase for 5 issues now which you're only going to have a chance at getting back by being vocal.

it's not just O_I, it's almost every PvP'er on the forums bringing it up that way. the only way to do this would be to set up it's own server that no one could transfer to or from. but we all know that the PvP community is not big enough to support the resources to do this. remember, this game was not built with PvP. it was an after thought. not trying to be argumentative, but it is time to give up with the sarcasm and negative attention grabbing on the forums about PvP. it hasn't worked in 5 issues and will not work going forward.

that is not the only way to do. it is just that, one way (and quite frankly not the most effective).

I edit the last post after you quoted by i'll reiterate. its not about expecting a massive overhaul, its about how the dev team has treated the community, or rather hasn't acknowledged them at all which is what is triggering all the negativity (treat others as you want to be treated and all that jazz). there is a quick and semi effective "quick fix" to pvp that could be rolled into any issue, the devs just chose not to go that route, even though thats what the community wants.

i get what you are saying, and i am glad this convo is staying civil. i know exactly how all the PvP'ers feel. i was one of the first right after i13 hit to shake up the boards about it. i even went as far as to suggest giving PvE the same treatment which actually went better then i thought it would have with the PvE'ers. if they say they are working on it, we are going to have to trust that they are and just don't want to revert back to i12. that would undo everything they have planned at this point to work with the half-assery they gave us for i13.

Originally Posted by Black_Barrier Guess it's hard to click while actively trying to keep the drool away from the keyboard...

In your lame opinion it's lame. Right, got it.
i think the prices are fairly reasonable.
So what if it's cheaper to buy some (respec, natch) recipes on the market than by using VampireHAMS? The same is also true for most recipes that can be purchased using regular merits.

But don't let that stop you. Quick, use lame again a few times to increase the amount of lame in your posts. (i'd forgotten that people still used lame. i thought it was a pretty dated term. Apparently it's coming back into vogue? *huh*)

It's making a lame come back.