((Meta)) Roleplaying, game-mechanics, and lore...

Not asking to be defended (I don't need to be, in this case, because I don't even play any Khelds...I don't have a-one on any of my servers). But the general uptightedness I've experienced in the past is why I generally keep my rping to forum threads. When people turn up their noses in disgust, it draw people *away* from RPing. I guess if you've got your little clique to play with, it doesn't really ever matter how it affects the reputation of such players as a whole.

And now I'm reminded...I don't have any characters on Virtue...well, I just rolled up an old character I thought up that used a Kinetic fighting style...now that we have it, I actually did roll him up on Virtue but now I'm pondering just transfering him somewhere else.

Wasn't sticking up for you specifically, it was a general argument as that's what the thread is about!

RP would become a confusing mess though if no one was actually playing what we could see. I have a hard enough time remembering everyone's name, let alone when it gets into them being completely different to what's on my screen. You might as well move it to IRC at that point as the whole things gotten pretty much divorced from the game world.

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Originally Posted by Leo_G And now I'm reminded...I don't have any characters on Virtue...well, I just rolled up an old character I thought up that used a Kinetic fighting style...now that we have it, I actually did roll him up on Virtue but now I'm pondering just transfering him somewhere else.

No need to get all passive aggressive about it.

If someone did a nova-only peacebringer and claimed it was a Vorlon, I'd accept that without much fuss.

Nah, for that to work in universe, it'd be like a Minbari walking around saying "no really, I'm a Vorlon" on B5.

Kheldians - Even tri-form Kheldians - Can be played off as something else. Who says you have to even use the Kheldian forms? That being said, yes, it IS hard to take something non-Kheldian using lost/ectinct Kheldian host forms for transformations.

So it's a good thing my character transforms into a Rhino instead. Or hell, maybe they just suddenly hop into a big bio-organic powersuit ala mecha. For my eldritch abomination-themed character, the squid is an eldritch abomination imprinted upon our reality...

The ONLY important thing about any AT or any powerset are the effects of the powers. As long as the base rules are the same - Radiation has -def debuffs, fire has DoT, Dark Miasma has -tohit debuffs - They can be mix and matched to be anything you please. Radiation can be usage of cat-shaped nanites. Fire blast can be ectoplasm. Dark Miasma can be sunshine.

Arguing that Kheldian lore is too specific to allow for RP as anything else is ridiculous. My shapeshifter equipped with military-grade energy weapons who can transform into a polar bear and an octupus defies you.

Play them as you like, but don't be expecting people to know they're not Kheldians until you've explained it all in painstaking detail.

That would get old fast, REALLY fast.

Oh, I don't bother explaining it beyond a few lines like those - and the teams I've played him on sure seem to walk away with fond memories of the bumbling necromancer who keeps messing up his spells. But like I said, YMMV.

Alternately, it just makes you look extra finnicky and convoluted.

Really, I've never understood the need to stand out more than things such as Kheldians already do. Bitten more than once by special snowflake syndrome, tbh.

Human form Khelds are fairly easy to pass off, imo.

VEATs don't need any alternate explaining though, frankly. You don't need Arachnos to have access to an assault rifle that ISNT a horrible franken-gun. Most normal weapons pack single shot, burst and full auto, and adding a grenade launcher and a bayonet is pretty damn easy too.
Fortunatas? Offensive but team based (or not) psionicists. Night Widows? Whatever ninja-esque, poison dart, mind power wielding type you want.
Heck, even Crab Spiders aren't that hard to work around. Freakshow Meatdocs, anyone? General exoskeletal rigs with arms? Lack of any real customisation on them shouldnt hinder cool concepts.

I agree thats its hard to RP Kheld forms as anything other than what they are, though, at least until/if we ever get alt forms for them.

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Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

But what is considered a non-Kheldian? I personally have a non-form (except the quantum flight form) Peacebringer. She has all of the energy/light-based powers of a normal Peacebringer, but no Crab or Squid form. The reason? I know this might sound a bit odd, but my excuse is her mother was pregnant with her at the time of the hosting. The supernatural change affected the fetus, without splintering the Kheldian.

Uh? Kheldians don't splinter like that, the 'forms' are the shapes of previous hsots teh symbiote has ahd and is able to create an energy based duplicate of.

Thus if you want a Human Form onlu PB/WS simpley have your character be the first host, problem solved, fits with the lore, no need to worry about more zany solutions.

Yes yes, if they don't follow your rules, they can't play in your sandbox and share your juice boxes. And if they bring their own legos? Well, you'll just go tell your mommy...then they'll be in trouble, eh?