Going Rogue Morality System - In plain English.


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I kinda forgot about this posting but if you want to step up so be it Fade Spiral.

Maybe simple wasn't the right word. How about clear, straightforward, or unmistakable. Yes, all the info up to a point tells you that you need 10 of (tip here) to be able to cross to the middle side. What seemed to be missing in my read through was once you've attained the middle status that you will only get the same (tip here) if you stay in that same zone side. So it will seem like your banging your head against a wall trying to complete your change over to completely be the opposite of what you started as.

For instance: [Timmy power gamer] starts as villain and wants to change. He does his 10 tips and gets his rogue status (small victor dance ensues). (With out total understanding) He completes 10 more tips while still being in the same zone and nothing new happens. Asks around in broadcast and is told to look here in forums. Finds page, reads and is not wholly understanding the jargon (even with pictures)

There should be a line reading "To complete the transition from B to C or B to A you must cross over then achieve 10 tips + 1 morality mission."


 

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Originally Posted by Emberly View Post
Cap of three tips in your tip inventory
Well, that explains why I stopped getting tips; I had thought to wait until I had five so that I could do all five for the day one after the other.


 

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Originally Posted by angelo55 View Post
There should be a line reading "To complete the transition from B to C or B to A you must cross over then achieve 10 tips + 1 morality mission."
I know it is an old post: If you had scrolled up a few posts, I clearly show that I did do that.

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Well, that explains why I stopped getting tips; I had thought to wait until I had five so that I could do all five for the day one after the other.
Yeah, the game will not give you tips after a while. I'm still not sure why though.




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how do praetorians rebel/loyalists fit into the morality system?

does each praetorian choose hero or villain or does their choice or loyal/rebel decide if they're a hero/villain after 20?


 

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Originally Posted by Thivus View Post
how do praetorians rebel/loyalists fit into the morality system?

does each praetorian choose hero or villain or does their choice or loyal/rebel decide if they're a hero/villain after 20?
At level 20, all Praetorians are given the choice to go to the Rogue Isles or Paragon City. That choice turns them to being a villain or hero, though they are still Praetorian. It doesn't matter if they are a loyalist or rebel.




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i have a few more 'advanced' questions...

i have successfully switched from villain to rogue... this allows me to go to, say, atlas park now...

it took a long time to get a tip on the hero side... but when i did, i discovered that the alignment missions on the hero side are for hero alignment only... i would have thought it would have been a choice between hero or more rogue, since on the villain side i have the choice of villain or more rogue... I find this lack of symmetry a bit confusing... and it sort of discourages one to go to the hero side at all (apparently unless i want to become a full hero, i can't do tip missions on the hero side)...

for me to continue to do rogue alignment missions (as a rogue), do i really have to be on the villain side of the universe to do this?

the other question is that i could not find any way to get a contact to do missions on the hero side... my first guess is that this is only possible as a full hero... or is there a mechanism i'm missing?

can i still do missions on the villain side as a rogue?


 

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Originally Posted by Oliphantino View Post
for me to continue to do rogue alignment missions (as a rogue), do i really have to be on the villain side of the universe to do this?
Simple answer: Yes.

All tips that offer villain or rogue status are in the villain zones. All tips that offer hero or vigilante status are in the hero zones.

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the other question is that i could not find any way to get a contact to do missions on the hero side... my first guess is that this is only possible as a full hero... or is there a mechanism i'm missing?
As a Rogue you can start most hero task forces (provided you have met their requirements), otherwise teaming and tips are your only options for missions hero-side until you go full hero.

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can i still do missions on the villain side as a rogue?
Yes, as a rogue, you can still do any and all villain content.




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I'd love to see a section added for what you CAN'T do on the "other" side (e.g. rogues in paragon). The only one I know of yet is sewer missions, but if there is more...?


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I'd love to see a section added for what you CAN'T do on the "other" side (e.g. rogues in paragon). The only one I know of yet is sewer missions, but if there is more...?
As a rogue:
  • You can't do the blue side Death From Below.
  • You can't do the blue side Cathedral of Pain (you can't enter hero bases).
  • You can't do missions for normal hero contacts.
  • You can't do hero flashbacks.

As a vigilante:
  • You can't do the red side Death From Below.
  • You can't do the red side Cathedral of Pain (you can't enter villain bases).
  • You can't do missions for normal villain contacts.
  • You can't do villain flashbacks.




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Originally Posted by Snow Globe View Post
As a Rogue you can start most hero task forces (provided you have met their requirements), otherwise teaming and tips are your only options for missions hero-side until you go full hero.
Rogues can also obtain a radio from your friendly neighborhood detective, and do radio missions blueside


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