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Just use a box grater. It does the exact same thing.
I don't like those for the simple fact that I always scrape the hell outta my knuckles on 'em and it takes far too long, comparatively. The drum grater is a lot quicker plus a lot less muss and fuss.



 

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Pfft... box-graters and monkey-grinders... these days we have wonderful, mystical devices called "food processors" to handle such mundane tasks with nigh-effortless speed and efficiency.


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Pfft... box-graters and monkey-grinders... these days we have wonderful, mystical devices called "food processors" to handle such mundane tasks with nigh-effortless speed and efficiency.
Take up too much space and are a touch more difficult to clean. The "monkey grinder" as you put it, also makes a relatively nice decoration in a kitchen, whereas a ginormous hunk of plastic? Not so much.

And a food processor is useless if the electricity goes out.



 

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Bah! messy machines, those "food processors"... too many parts to clean!

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manodlines are nice but most of them are very sketchy to use- pretty much everyone I know who's got one has cut the **** out of themselves at least once.

food processors aren't quite as nice for fine work, but they are a lot more versatile and they waste a lot less food.

I have both, I use the food processor way more often.


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oh hey, I didn't notice this had suddenly become a general food thread.

here's my go-to recipe for fast, quite delicious red sauce. You can make it in the time it takes the pasta water to boil. Almost as fast as heating up some canned or jarred sauce, and tastes a million times better. Got it out of Cook's Illustrated.

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Makes 3 cups, enough for 1 pound of pasta. Published May 1, 2009. From Cook's Illustrated.

This full-flavored tomato sauce takes only 15 minutes to prepare. High-quality canned tomatoes will make a big difference in this sauce. Our preferred brands of crushed tomatoes are Tuttorosso and Muir Glen. Grate the onion on the large holes of a box grater.


INGREDIENTS
2 tablespoons unsalted butter
1/4 cup grated onion , from 1 medium onion (see note)
1/4 teaspoon dried oregano
Table salt
2 medium garlic cloves , minced or pressed through garlic press (about 2 teaspoons)
1 (28-ounce) can crushed tomatoes (see note)
1/4 teaspoon sugar
2 tablespoons coarsely chopped fresh basil leaves
1 tablespoon extra virgin olive oil
Ground black pepper

INSTRUCTIONS
Heat butter in medium saucepan over medium heat until melted. Add onion, oregano, and ½ teaspoon salt; cook, stirring occasionally, until liquid has evaporated and onion is golden brown, about 5 minutes. Add garlic and cook until fragrant, about 30 seconds. Stir in tomatoes and sugar; increase heat to high and bring to simmer. Lower heat to medium-low and simmer until thickened slightly, about 10 minutes. Off heat, stir in basil and oil; season with salt and pepper. Serve.

I have an even simpler one, which goes like this:

gently sautee a few cloves of minced garlic in 2tbs of olive oil until fragrant, add a 28oz can of diced tomatoes (Hunt's is the best IMHO) cook until reduced, 8 or so minutes. Season with salt and pepper, serve over pasta of your choice. You can easily spice it up with fresh basil or whatever appropriate herbs you've got lying around.


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So, last night we cooked brats & andouille sausage... more specifically...

  • Punctured uncooked mild italian sausages with fork or small knife (about 3 punctures on two opposite sides) and placed in stewpot.
  • Poured a decent beer over sausage (we used Blue Moon last night) to the point that they were immersed completely.
  • Last night, I was in the mood for spicy, so I added some already cooked andoullie sausage on top (punctured slightly to impart some of their flavor).
  • Topped the whole mess with 4 (small) cloves garlic chopped fine, small (or half a large) onion, & 2 "julienned" green bell peppers.
  • Cooked, uncovered, on medium heat for about 15-20 min. We used the handy side burner on the bbq so as not to heat the house up too much (we had a balmy 95 degree day). Some of the andoullies 'sploded, but I was okay with that... just gave the stock some good flavor.
  • A few minutes after putting the pot on, we put some foil wrapped corn cobs on the grill.
  • When sausages were well cooked, we pulled them out and grilled them briefly just to give them some nice char marks.
  • Sausages came out slightly crispy on the outside, but oh so tender on the inside. Served in slightly toasted buns & topped with the cooked peppers & onions.
Now I have some really wonderfully flavored stock left over. Planning on making a little stew with it... Thinking I'll add some tomato, carrots & celery, some lentils, peas, & barley... maybe even a little leftover sausage.

yum.


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Last night I made dinner for my girlfriend...

Can anyone teach me tricks or ideas related to pasta? We didn't know what sauce went with which noodle, so we picked an amalgam of things that "sounded good". What we ended up with was grape soda compared to wine; enjoyable but not full potential.

Any shopping tips for picking the best ingredients for a pasta dish? Some notes on what we did:

  • Whole grain noodles. (We presumed this healthy)
  • She and I disagreed on how much to salt the water. I said "Err on more than necessary". She found the idea of salt repellent inherently.
  • I prepurchased spaghetti sauce. It was "Basil" themed. What sauce would have gone best? Should I have made my own?
  • Italian sausage used for meatballs. Simple here. I just buttered the pan and let them fly.
  • Parmesan cheese. Is this always a given? I assumed so.
  • This all with garlic bread. Obviously.
  • If I were to add a wine, would that work? Which would I pick?

I don't know how much help I will get in this thread, but as our foodie sides show me, I thought I'd test the boundaries. Thanks!


 

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So, last night we cooked brats & andouille sausage... more specifically...

  • Punctured uncooked mild italian sausages with fork or small knife (about 3 punctures on two opposite sides) and placed in stewpot.
  • Poured a decent beer over sausage (we used Blue Moon last night) to the point that they were immersed completely.
  • Last night, I was in the mood for spicy, so I added some already cooked andoullie sausage on top (punctured slightly to impart some of their flavor).
  • Topped the whole mess with 4 (small) cloves garlic chopped fine, small (or half a large) onion, & 2 "julienned" green bell peppers.
  • Cooked, uncovered, on medium heat for about 15-20 min. We used the handy side burner on the bbq so as not to heat the house up too much (we had a balmy 95 degree day). Some of the andoullies 'sploded, but I was okay with that... just gave the stock some good flavor.
  • A few minutes after putting the pot on, we put some foil wrapped corn cobs on the grill.
  • When sausages were well cooked, we pulled them out and grilled them briefly just to give them some nice char marks.
  • Sausages came out slightly crispy on the outside, but oh so tender on the inside. Served in slightly toasted buns & topped with the cooked peppers & onions.
Now I have some really wonderfully flavored stock left over. Planning on making a little stew with it... Thinking I'll add some tomato, carrots & celery, some lentils, peas, & barley... maybe even a little leftover sausage.

yum.
I am strongly considering printing out this post and mimicking you, reporting back with results.


 

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Originally Posted by Impish Kat View Post
So, last night we cooked brats & andouille sausage... more specifically...

  • Punctured uncooked mild italian sausages with fork or small knife (about 3 punctures on two opposite sides) and placed in stewpot.
  • Poured a decent beer over sausage (we used Blue Moon last night) to the point that they were immersed completely.
  • Last night, I was in the mood for spicy, so I added some already cooked andoullie sausage on top (punctured slightly to impart some of their flavor).
  • Topped the whole mess with 4 (small) cloves garlic chopped fine, small (or half a large) onion, & 2 "julienned" green bell peppers.
  • Cooked, uncovered, on medium heat for about 15-20 min. We used the handy side burner on the bbq so as not to heat the house up too much (we had a balmy 95 degree day). Some of the andoullies 'sploded, but I was okay with that... just gave the stock some good flavor.
  • A few minutes after putting the pot on, we put some foil wrapped corn cobs on the grill.
  • When sausages were well cooked, we pulled them out and grilled them briefly just to give them some nice char marks.
  • Sausages came out slightly crispy on the outside, but oh so tender on the inside. Served in slightly toasted buns & topped with the cooked peppers & onions.
Now I have some really wonderfully flavored stock left over. Planning on making a little stew with it... Thinking I'll add some tomato, carrots & celery, some lentils, peas, & barley... maybe even a little leftover sausage.

yum.


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I'm hungry just reading this.


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Last night I made dinner for my girlfriend...

Can anyone teach me tricks or ideas related to pasta? We didn't know what sauce went with which noodle, so we picked an amalgam of things that "sounded good". What we ended up with was grape soda compared to wine; enjoyable but not full potential.

Any shopping tips for picking the best ingredients for a pasta dish? Some notes on what we did:
  • Whole grain noodles. (We presumed this healthy)
  • She and I disagreed on how much to salt the water. I said "Err on more than necessary". She found the idea of salt repellent inherently.
  • I prepurchased spaghetti sauce. It was "Basil" themed. What sauce would have gone best? Should I have made my own?
  • Italian sausage used for meatballs. Simple here. I just buttered the pan and let them fly.
  • Parmesan cheese. Is this always a given? I assumed so.
  • This all with garlic bread. Obviously.
  • If I were to add a wine, would that work? Which would I pick?

I don't know how much help I will get in this thread, but as our foodie sides show me, I thought I'd test the boundaries. Thanks!
I remember Alton Brown doing a good guide to what sauces work best with which pastas in an episode of Good Eats, but I couldn't find it. I did find this guide, which looks like it has good information. The kind of sauce you want to use depends more on the shape of the pasta than what it's made of, so fettuccine is going to work better with different sauces than fusilli regardless of whether they're made of whole wheat or semolina.

Whole grain noodles are healthier. I don't like them, because they take longer to cook and they have a flavor I don't care for (kinda cardboardy, IMO). But if you like them, go for it.

As for salt, it's generally a good idea to add some to the pasta while it's boiling. It's pretty much the only time the pasta will actually absorb the salt and get flavoring from it (not to prevent sticking). And remember, when you're cooking it's all about flavor.


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Originally Posted by Impish Kat View Post
So, last night we cooked brats & andouille sausage... more specifically...

  • Punctured uncooked mild italian sausages with fork or small knife (about 3 punctures on two opposite sides) and placed in stewpot.
  • Poured a decent beer over sausage (we used Blue Moon last night) to the point that they were immersed completely.
  • Last night, I was in the mood for spicy, so I added some already cooked andoullie sausage on top (punctured slightly to impart some of their flavor).
  • Topped the whole mess with 4 (small) cloves garlic chopped fine, small (or half a large) onion, & 2 "julienned" green bell peppers.
  • Cooked, uncovered, on medium heat for about 15-20 min. We used the handy side burner on the bbq so as not to heat the house up too much (we had a balmy 95 degree day). Some of the andoullies 'sploded, but I was okay with that... just gave the stock some good flavor.
  • A few minutes after putting the pot on, we put some foil wrapped corn cobs on the grill.
  • When sausages were well cooked, we pulled them out and grilled them briefly just to give them some nice char marks.
  • Sausages came out slightly crispy on the outside, but oh so tender on the inside. Served in slightly toasted buns & topped with the cooked peppers & onions.
Now I have some really wonderfully flavored stock left over. Planning on making a little stew with it... Thinking I'll add some tomato, carrots & celery, some lentils, peas, & barley... maybe even a little leftover sausage.

yum.


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I can attest that it was quite tasty. I'm looking forward to seeing what she does with the stock.


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I remember Alton Brown doing a good guide to what sauces work best with which pastas in an episode of Good Eats, but I couldn't find it. I did find this guide, which looks like it has good information. The kind of sauce you want to use depends more on the shape of the pasta than what it's made of, so fettuccine is going to work better with different sauces than fusilli regardless of whether they're made of whole wheat or semolina.

Whole grain noodles are healthier. I don't like them, because they take longer to cook and they have a flavor I don't care for (kinda cardboardy, IMO). But if you like them, go for it.

As for salt, it's generally a good idea to add some to the pasta while it's boiling. It's pretty much the only time the pasta will actually absorb the salt and get flavoring from it (not to prevent sticking). And remember, when you're cooking it's all about flavor.
Thank ya very much! I shall consider this!


 

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Any shopping tips for picking the best ingredients for a pasta dish? Some notes on what we did:
  • Whole grain noodles. (We presumed this healthy)
  • comparatively speaking, yeah.
    they have a different flavor profile than traditional pasta- I like them with pesto, they're also good for the simplest of all pastas, garlic and olive oil.

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  • She and I disagreed on how much to salt the water. I said "Err on more than necessary". She found the idea of salt repellent inherently.
  • Unsalted pasta tastes like shoe leather. You would be chased down any street in Italy by an enraged mob if you tried to pass of unsalted pasta.

    All my better Italian cookbooks say 1tbs salt for every 5 quarts of water. Basically, just pour way more than you think you should into your cupped palm then dump it in.

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  • I prepurchased spaghetti sauce. It was "Basil" themed. What sauce would have gone best? Should I have made my own?
  • Yes, you should have made your own. =P
    see my post upstream a bit for recipes.

    Rule of thumb when buying a jarred sauce is to check the ingridient list.
    The fewer ingredients, the better the sauce.
    This is the best jarred sauce I've tried. Note the short, simple list of ingredients.


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  • Italian sausage used for meatballs. Simple here. I just buttered the pan and let them fly.
  • Good, but you really ought to fry it in olive oil.

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  • Parmesan cheese. Is this always a given? I assumed so.
  • make sure you use fresh grated Parmesan, none of that powdery junk from a can, no dried out pre-grated shavings either. Buy a hunk of real parm (it'll keep basically forever in the fridge) and grate as needed.


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  • If I were to add a wine, would that work? Which would I pick?
Living in one of the premier wine regions in the country I'm spoiled for choice here- tons of great stuff in the $5-15 range. Alas, the further away from Cali you get the more expensive they'll be.
If you have a Trader Joes in your area, they reliably stock excellent inexpensive vintages.


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Aha! I found Alton Brown's guide, it was in one of his Pantry Raid episodes. He starts talking about the various pasta shapes around the 3:30 mark (and the rest of the episode has some good advice and recipes).


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Living in one of the premier wine regions in the country I'm spoiled for choice here- tons of great stuff in the $5-15 range. Alas, the further away from Cali you get the more expensive they'll be.
If you have a Trader Joes in your area, they reliably stock excellent inexpensive vintages.
Hon, I live in LA. I have choices.

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Keep in mind that it was a fairly large batch (6 italian sausages, 6 andoullies) that fed 5 adults. You may want to adjust accordingly.

As for pasta... matching a sauce with a style of pasta can be fun. I generally think in terms of if the pasta will "hold" the sauce. If a sauce is thin, I tend to go with pastas that have more textures; rotini, tortellini, pene, etc., so that the pasta will hold the sauce to it. If a sauce is thicker or chunkier style, I go with straighter pastas. This is just my trial & error opinion... ymmv.

As for wheat pastas, as I understand it, they have more gluten in them, so they cook differently than the more common (semolina?) pastas. I think the trick is to really keep an eye on the pasta's "doneness" and pull and rinse in cool water as soon as you notice they are "al dente". Don't worry, the sauce will heat them back up for eating.

Salt in the water is mostly to help it boil faster, though it also does help bring out the pasta flavor a bit. I rarely use it. A bit of oil in the water will help keep the noodles from sticking to each other.

Sauce: I'm a cheater.... I have a proprietary sauce recipe from my dad. I mix the spices up in big batches, separate into packets and keep them in the freezer. When I need sauce, it's 2 x 14 oz cans of chopped tomatoes, 1 x 6 oz can tomato paste, & spice packet. Depending on my mood, I add sauteed veggies and/or sausage, & sometimes a little (4-6 oz) merlot or cabernet.

To kick up a commercial sauce, I might add some sauteed garlic, onions, green pepper.... or just sprinkle in some extra oregano/basil... add some red wine... sprinkle of ceyanne pepper... For creme sauces I'll sprinkle in some nutmeg (just a little)...

Have I confused you further?

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Hon, I live in LA. I have choices.
Try Menage A Trois Red by Folie au Deux winery.
I get it at Costco, but my local TJs also has it for a buck more.

It's my current favorite in the >$10 range.


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A quick note on olive oil.... older olive oil will develop bitter tannins... so don't let it sit around for too long. Make sure it is fresh & "clean" tasting.

This becomes very important if you are going to use it as a "stand alone" ingredient such as angel hair pasta with a bit of garlic, olive oil & parm.


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A quick note on olive oil.... older olive oil will develop bitter tannins... so don't let it sit around for too long. Make sure it is fresh & "clean" tasting.

This becomes very important if you are going to use it as a "stand alone" ingredient such as angel hair pasta with a bit of garlic, olive oil & parm.


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Wrapping the bottle in something opaque (such as aluminum foil) can help keep olive oil fresher longer, as light will degrade the oil. Or you can keep it in a dark place.


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A quick note on olive oil.... older olive oil will develop bitter tannins... so don't let it sit around for too long. Make sure it is fresh & "clean" tasting.

This becomes very important if you are going to use it as a "stand alone" ingredient such as angel hair pasta with a bit of garlic, olive oil & parm.
true!
if it's an ingredient you don't use all the time, buy small bottles and store in a cool, dark place.

also I have two types on hand- a cheap one for cooking and an expensive one for dipping and drizzling and making dressings.
Huge flavor difference.


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Can anyone teach me tricks or ideas related to pasta? We didn't know what sauce went with which noodle, so we picked an amalgam of things that "sounded good". What we ended up with was grape soda compared to wine; enjoyable but not full potential.
The best noodle to go with pasta is one you actually make yourself. I forgot what it was called, but there was a BBC series where a guy (a molecular cook by trade) went looking for the perfect version of dishes, including spaghetti bolognese. Now, one thing they did in that episode was actually look at different kinds of noodles under the microscope. Essentially, premade noodles are over-refined. Homemade ones actually come out with a microscopically rough surface that allows sauces to cling to it.

Shop around online for how to make various styles of pasta, I can't be arsed to give a rundown beyond telling you that you need wheat, semolina, an egg or two, salt (YES, SALT) and ideally a teensy bit of olive oil. Heap semolina into a bowl or onto a clean wooden board (I prefer the latter), make a dent in the middle, put the semolina into that dent, make a dent in the semolina then and break the egg into it and also add the olive oil. Slowly work the flour and semolina into the liquid contents, bit by bit. Keep kneading for about 15-20 minutes. Roll out and form into pasta of your choosing.

If you don't think you can handle anything fancy, get yourself a noodle maker to cut strands of dough into tagliatelle.

Once you've done the above a couple times, it'll come easy to you, and then you can really experiment. I like adding a paste of even parts pulped tomato and paprika to the dough. Tomato is how Italians make the red pasta anyway, so it's semi-legal. Green pasta uses spinach, and black pasta for when your Goth friends drop by is made using sepia in the dough.


As an added bonus, fresh pasta really only needs to see boiling water to be done. Unless you want to go for anything but al dente, which I wouldn't recommend cause it's grounds for pubic fogging.


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Whole grain noodles. (We presumed this healthy)
I don't know about healthy, but if you use any dried noodles, I'd definitely go for these. Integrali as the Italians call them at least have a bit of taste to them, and a firmer consistency.


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...I prepurchased spaghetti sauce...
KHAAAAAAN!

*ahem*

No, no, and again no. The basic sauce bolognese or what-have you is not hard. You need onions, celery, carrots, tomatoes, wine and either ground beef or the right sausages (my favourite one is essentially the Italian version of a rough ground bratwurst, caraway and all, but there are many alternatives). Chop the vegetables into tiny bits, peel the tomatoes. Warm up a pan, put in some olive oil, throw in the vegetables for a minute or three before adding the meat. When the meat is to your liking, add the tomatoes and watch them melt. Mind you, there are a dozen variations on this recipe, but it's hardly rocket science.

While I generally prefer mine al'arrabiata, I can't stand not having meat in it and am thusly being a heathen about it.
Parmesan cheese. Is this always a given? I assumed so.


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...Parmesan cheese...
Not big on the Parmigiano with my tomato sauce, personally. It tastes like granny feet. If at all, I tend to use Grana Padano, even if it's considered the lesser of the two, as it doesn't taste offensive to me.


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