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Can you provide a link to the announcement please? Thanks!
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Originally Posted by ketch
From the Razer Q&A session, we've learned the names and effects of two new powers as well as the pets in the Electric Control set.
Jolting Chains - a knockdown power that arcs from foe to foe Static Field - a placeable Sleep patch Gremlins - "little electric guys who throw bolts of lightning" For some the presence of the sleep may be a bit disappointing, but it sounds like it may be similar to Volcanic Gasses. I think that alone could greatly increase it's value to many. Jolting Chains sounds like it may offer up some interesting proc'ing opportunities. If the set follows the standard order for Control sets... lvl 1: Single target hold lvl 1: Single target immobilize lvl 2: AoE immobilize lvl 6: lvl 8: lvl 12: lvl 18: AoE Hold lvl 26: lvl 32: Pets That leaves room for two more new and unique powers. I'm quite stoked to see what they have in store. |
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i posted that also on the dom board
Q5 Could you tell us a little more about Electric Control? I'm especially curious about the top tier power, is it another petless set? If not, could you tell us what the pet is? How is it different from the other control power sets?
C! : Electric Control has a few very interesting power. Jolting Chains, is a Knockdown power that can go through a spawn and knock them all down, one after another. It's pretty amazing to watch. Static Field is a placeable Sleep power. Now, I know what most players think of Sleep effects, but our closed Beta testers really seem to like it, with comments like "This is the first Sleep power I consider worth it." The Tier 9 is Gremlins -- little electrical guys who toss out bolts of lightning.
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Sweet deal! Thanks
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Originally Posted by Avlorik
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i posted that also on the dom board Q5 Could you tell us a little more about Electric Control? I'm especially curious about the top tier power, is it another petless set? If not, could you tell us what the pet is? How is it different from the other control power sets? C! : Electric Control has a few very interesting power. Jolting Chains, is a Knockdown power that can go through a spawn and knock them all down, one after another. It's pretty amazing to watch. Static Field is a placeable Sleep power. Now, I know what most players think of Sleep effects, but our closed Beta testers really seem to like it, with comments like "This is the first Sleep power I consider worth it." The Tier 9 is Gremlins -- little electrical guys who toss out bolts of lightning. |
The sleep is adissapointment, I dont care if people are saying they may use it in Beta, I imagine played with very heavy secondaries it will be left out, and hardly missed.
I think in the idoc i saw a stun effect swirling around an enemy, this may mean a stun power, which is more how i envisage elec working instead of -end.
I'm still hoping for a TP Lighting-Rod Esque power, but Im glad we got a chain.
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Originally Posted by VoodooGirl
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Here's that video for folks that haven't seen it yet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJCeF58nmAo
We see electric control in action from around 0:25 to 0:31. It seems to show Static Field, an as of yet unknown PBAoE power, and Jolting Chains.
and it looks extremely sexy 
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I wouldn't judge it too quickly. Remember it's been described as a patch. I imagine the mitigation it offers is something like the on and off mitigation of a knockdown patch like Ice Slick when the team is attacking, but with the benefit of setting up containment, and a solid sleep like those found in other sets if people leave the enemies alone. Speculation, of course... I'm eagerly awaiting my chance to see it in action.
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Originally Posted by Mega_Jamie
The sleep is adissapointment, I dont care if people are saying they may use it in Beta, I imagine played with very heavy secondaries it will be left out, and hardly missed.
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I just hope the sleep isn't considered the set's quick recharge AoE control like Flashfire or Stalagmites.
Ill be rolling one as soon as it goes live !!!!
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The chained knockdown makes me wonder if it will have an AoE cage power at all. Although both Ice and Earth have knockdown/anti-knockdown conflicts so maybe it will anyway. The standard Electric Fence power is anti-kb so I assume the AoE one would be too.
Mastermind's Poison Gas Trap is a placeable Sleep AoE, and almost universally reviled from what I've heard.
Hopefully the better numbers make a difference here. I certainly think its an interesting idea for a power mechanism if done right.
The difference is the pulsing frequency from what I gather... Sounds like it's more like bonfire but with sleep instead of KB and no dmg.
At least that's what I HOPE. I'm one of those folks that LIKES sleeps, but that's largely 'cause I'm an old Mind/Kin and nothing goes better with FUlcrum Shift than a Mass hyp ;-)
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If it worked like VG, and did not apply damage, just kept reapplying sleep affect every x seconds of its duration it owuld be good. The main (generally) problem with sleep is not the person using it, but the team the person is on. And the general lack of noticable affect.|
Originally Posted by ketch
I wouldn't judge it too quickly. Remember it's been described as a patch. I imagine the mitigation it offers is something like the on and off mitigation of a knockdown patch like Ice Slick when the team is attacking, but with the benefit of setting up containment, and a solid sleep like those found in other sets if people leave the enemies alone. Speculation, of course... I'm eagerly awaiting my chance to see it in action.
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Tho saying that last night I did a TF with a mind troller who keep casting Mass Hypnosis on the enemies in the blasters RoF, so sometimes its the user.
Being the most fragile of the hard mez's (or would it be soft mez, or borderline?) makes it less desirable by default, but yes I wouldnt rule it out necessarily on its own, but I may have trouble trying to fit it in
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Originally Posted by VoodooGirl
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Here's what I predicted for the set back in April
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edit: 0:28 looks like the lightning field animation (though powersink uses this one too, the effect looks bigger than PS's and the mobs don't respond like they are being PS'd). Though I'm guessing (as above) it does a bit more than just drain/damage.
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Originally Posted by Frosticus
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telsa cage elec fences unique power unique power frequent aoe hard mez (ie aoe stun) telsa cages unique power 2 electric gremlins -1 of those unique powers will likely be an aoe sleep -Another will likely be a heavy sapping click power w/ secondary effects -Another could conceivably be a modified version of blaster lightning field, so large aoe damage aura, end drain, and probably have a chance to sleep/stun added. I doubt we are going to see another set as unique as illusion myself, but here's hoping the set is indeed more "unique" than I've listed (not that what I just drew up would be bad at all, it would perform very well). |
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Actually, Poison Gas Trap is a placeable Hold and I have heard quite a different opinion of it from the Defender's perspective. The Lockdown proc helps with its poor duration and magnitude, but it is mostly loved for the huge -regeneration debuff.|
Originally Posted by DrMike2000
Mastermind's Poison Gas Trap is a placeable Sleep AoE, and almost universally reviled from what I've heard.
Hopefully the better numbers make a difference here. I certainly think its an interesting idea for a power mechanism if done right. |
Anyway, back on topic, has there been more than one image of the Gremlins released? I've been assuming there are only two, but I'm don't know if that presumption is based on a single source at this point.
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*Poison Trap from the Poison set is a "tiny chance to sleep per tick" patch and basically reviled. PGT is initially a Hold and then a "Chance to force anm animation" power, with lots of -regen and pretty decent.|
Originally Posted by ketch
Actually, Poison Gas Trap is a placeable Hold and I have heard quite a different opinion of it from the Defender's perspective. The Lockdown proc helps with its poor duration and magnitude, but it is mostly loved for the huge -regeneration debuff.
Anyway, back on topic, has there been more than one image of the Gremlins released? I've been assuming there are only two, but I'm don't know if that presumption is based on a single source at this point. |
It really depends on the implementation really. If it's something like a Choking Cloud / Volcanic Gases, where ToHit checks are made every X seconds it could be alright (basically it'll end up a bit like a Placable Fear patch with the bonus of setting up Containment for you). It it's implemented similiarly to Poison Trap with a 2% chance of a sleep per second it'll be laughed at and reviled.
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Well, there's an understandable bit of confusion. They really should rename the power in Poison since it functions so differently from the Poison Trap found in Traps.|
Originally Posted by Carnifax_NA
*Poison Trap from the Poison set is a "tiny chance to sleep per tick" patch and basically reviled. PGT is initially a Hold and then a "Chance to force anm animation" power, with lots of -regen and pretty decent.
It really depends on the implementation really. If it's something like a Choking Cloud / Volcanic Gases, where ToHit checks are made every X seconds it could be alright (basically it'll end up a bit like a Placable Fear patch with the bonus of setting up Containment for you). It it's implemented similiarly to Poison Trap with a 2% chance of a sleep per second it'll be laughed at and reviled. |
Anyway, I've got my fingers crossed for something more like Volcanic Gasses than Poison Trap.
They should rename the one in Poison to Poison Crap.
Poisonous Crap Trap?
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That would only trap poisonous crap. How much of that did you want to catch? |
Originally Posted by BlackSly
Poisonous Crap Trap?
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...This set makes me nervous...I will roll one anyway if it sucks...so I can complain about it and tell everyone how leet I am for enduring it :P.
Just joshin'. I don't do it with Gravity and I surely will not do it with this set...brag that is.
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It does share the same animation with both those powers. The electric effect seems more like the one used in the Brute and Scrapper version of Lightning Field than the Blaster version. (The blaster version seems to lack the concentric circles from what I can tell in the costume creator.) Perhaps, hinting at higher endurance drain values?
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Originally Posted by Frosticus
Here's what I predicted for the set back in April
edit: 0:28 looks like the lightning field animation (though powersink uses this one too, the effect looks bigger than PS's and the mobs don't respond like they are being PS'd). Though I'm guessing (as above) it does a bit more than just drain/damage. |
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Yes, i've thought of the Static Field, MANY times, even came up with the name upon many iterations of what I thought would make a good electric control set for years now. Of course, mine was a stun, with slow, not a sleep |
Originally Posted by ketch
From the Razer Q&A session, we've learned the names and effects of two new powers as well as the pets in the Electric Control set.
Jolting Chains - a knockdown power that arcs from foe to foe Static Field - a placeable Sleep patch Gremlins - "little electric guys who throw bolts of lightning" For some the presence of the sleep may be a bit disappointing, but it sounds like it may be similar to Volcanic Gasses. I think that alone could greatly increase it's value to many. Jolting Chains sounds like it may offer up some interesting proc'ing opportunities. If the set follows the standard order for Control sets... lvl 1: Single target hold lvl 1: Single target immobilize lvl 2: AoE immobilize lvl 6: lvl 8: lvl 12: lvl 18: AoE Hold lvl 26: lvl 32: Pets That leaves room for two more new and unique powers. I'm quite stoked to see what they have in store. |
... This is getting more and more disappointing the more I find out about electric control . The set can easily have a sleep power, but not in this type
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That knockdown sounds pretty cool, but what if you're just facing 1 opponent? Would it just be gone after applying it once?
Also, I don't think this "new" knockdown is anything special. It's practically Earthquake with a new animation, since Earthquake continually knocks 1-2 mobs down at a time as well. The Dev's could have simply added the "jumping" animation and call it a new power. However, it would be lame if it can't "bounce" from 1 mob to another if you're just fighting 1 mob, since Earthquake still works with just 1 mob.
From the Razer Q&A session, we've learned the names and effects of two new powers as well as the pets in the Electric Control set.
Jolting Chains - a knockdown power that arcs from foe to foe
Static Field - a placeable Sleep patch
Gremlins - "little electric guys who throw bolts of lightning"
For some the presence of the sleep may be a bit disappointing, but it sounds like it may be similar to Volcanic Gasses. I think that alone could greatly increase it's value to many. Jolting Chains sounds like it may offer up some interesting proc'ing opportunities.
If the set follows the standard order for Control sets...
lvl 1: Single target hold
lvl 1: Single target immobilize
lvl 2: AoE immobilize
lvl 6:
lvl 8:
lvl 12:
lvl 18: AoE Hold
lvl 26:
lvl 32: Pets
That leaves room for two more new and unique powers. I'm quite stoked to see what they have in store.