Figuring in you want to tank, I thought to add Taunt and pull the ranged attack (Focus). I also added Unstoppable, which I don't have in my Inv/SS tank build, but may be needed for a scrapper.
I'm sure some of the folks here can take this and improve it, but it's a start for you.
Claws-Invul: Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Claws
Secondary Power Set: Invulnerability
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery
Hero Profile:
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Level 1: Strike
(A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage
(3) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance
(3) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge
(17) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(31) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(31) Focused Smite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
Level 1: Resist Physical Damage
(A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
(7) Reactive Armor - Resistance
(7) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance
(11) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge
(11) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
Level 2: Temp Invulnerability
(A) Reactive Armor - Resistance
(13) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance
(13) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge
(50) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
Level 4: Slash
(A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage
(5) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance
(5) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge
(17) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(34) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(36) Focused Smite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
Level 6: Hurdle
(A) Jumping IO
Level 8: Spin
(A) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
(9) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(9) Obliteration - Damage
(15) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
(15) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
(37) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
Level 10: Dull Pain
(A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge
(39) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge
(40) Miracle - Heal/Recharge
(40) Harmonized Healing - Heal/Recharge
Level 12: Hasten
(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(25) Recharge Reduction IO
(48) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 14: Super Speed
(A) Empty
Level 16: Confront
(A) Mocking Beratement - Taunt
(43) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Recharge
(46) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Recharge/Range
(50) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Range
Level 18: Health
(A) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
(19) Numina's Convalescence - Heal
(19) Miracle - +Recovery
(21) Miracle - Heal
Level 20: Stamina
(A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
(21) Endurance Modification IO
Level 22: Follow Up
(A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage
(23) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance
(23) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge
(25) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(40) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up
Level 24: Combat Jumping
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
(45) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
Level 26: Unyielding
(A) Reactive Armor - Resistance
(27) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance
(27) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge
(39) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
Level 28: Invincibility
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
(29) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
(29) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance
Level 30: Resist Elements
(A) Reactive Armor - Resistance
(31) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance
(36) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge
(46) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
Level 32: Eviscerate
(A) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
(33) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(33) Obliteration - Damage
(33) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
(34) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
(34) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
Level 35: Tough Hide
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
(36) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
(46) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
Level 38: Resist Energies
(A) Reactive Armor - Resistance
(39) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance
(45) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge
(45) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
Level 41: Shockwave
(A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(42) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage
(42) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance
(42) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge
(43) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range
Level 44: Conserve Power
(A) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 47: Physical Perfection
(A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
(48) Healing IO
(48) Healing IO
Level 49: Unstoppable
(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(50) Recharge Reduction IO
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Level 1: Brawl
(A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage
(37) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance
(37) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge
(43) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
Level 1: Sprint
(A) Empty
Level 2: Rest
(A) Empty
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 6: Ninja Run
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Skipping Focus yea-NO. Skipping Focus is a terrible idea. Taking Focus at any level other than 18 is merely a bad idea. What I mean by this is that Focus is awesome. Take it. Love it. Whisper sweet nothings to it as it obliterates your enemies.
Other than that though, it looks OK. The general idea for /invuln is to stack up typed defence and recharge. Claws doesn't need much +rech to be awesome though. I'll put something something together later, as I seem to have lost my old Claws/Invuln build...
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It's nowhere close to optimized, but I likes it, so why don't you try this one out:|
Originally Posted by AllYourBase
Thanks for the replies, everyone. I'll give /Invul a try. I haven't played it since it got that big nerf so long ago. Any tips on how to build? This looks like it's going to be hard to fit everything in.
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SS-2: Level 50 Science Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Claws
Secondary Power Set: Invulnerability
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Swipe -- C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(3), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(5), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(15), T'Death-Dam%(19)
Level 1: Resist Physical Damage -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam(40), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(40), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(42), RctvArm-EndRdx(43), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(45)
Level 2: Strike -- T'Death-Dam%(A), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(3), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(5), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(7), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(15), T'Death-Acc/Dmg(19)
Level 4: Temp Invulnerability -- RctvArm-EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam(13), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(17), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(36), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(42)
Level 6: Spin -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(9), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(9), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11), Oblit-%Dam(25)
Level 8: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 10: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(50), Ksmt-ToHit+(50)
Level 12: Dull Pain -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Numna-Heal(13), Numna-Heal/Rchg(37), Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Mrcl-Heal/Rchg(43)
Level 14: Super Jump -- Winter-ResSlow(A)
Level 16: Unyielding -- RctvArm-EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam(17), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(37), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(39), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(42)
Level 18: Health -- Heal-I(A)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(21), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(21), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(39)
Level 22: Follow Up -- C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(23), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(23), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(25), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(34), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(39)
Level 24: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 26: Focus -- Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(27), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(34), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(40)
Level 28: Invincibility -- HO:Cyto(A), HO:Cyto(29), HO:Cyto(31)
Level 30: Tough -- RctvArm-EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(31), RctvArm-EndRdx/Rchg(31), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(34), RctvArm-ResDam(43)
Level 32: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(33), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(33), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(33)
Level 35: Tough Hide -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(36), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(36), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(45)
Level 38: Resist Elements -- RctvArm-ResDam(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(45), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(46), RctvArm-EndRdx/Rchg(48), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 41: Resist Energies -- Aegis-ResDam(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(46), Aegis-Psi/Status(46)
Level 44: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 47: Physical Perfection -- P'Shift-End%(A), RgnTis-Regen+(48)
Level 49: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 4: Ninja Run
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These builds look very nice. Much better than what I was coming up with. If it helps, I no longer pick up travel powers until the 20s or later (if at all). I find I can get by just fine with Swift+Sprint+Ninja Run and occasional use of the temporary travel powers from the Safeguard missions. With the exception of Superspeed's prereq, Hasten (which I might try to pick up anyway), that should free up some powerslots.
Also, I'm considering picking up Provoke from the Presence pool. I know that's not as good as a native taunt, but it is AoE. My blaster friend has a habit of getting himself killed (I know, shocking, huh?) but my PB friend is quite sturdy regardless of what the rest of us do. Will that plus (or instead of) Confront be useful, or should I look elsewhere?
What is the current consensus on Aid Self? I know popular opinion often goes back and forth about this, and I've only ever picked it up on one other melee character (Elec/Shields Scrapper from long ago) but it seemed helpful. Since /Invuln is about evenly split between Resistance and Defense, would Aid Self be too difficult to use in combat when DP is down?
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I would vote for /Regen... first 50 and still play him tons.
/SR is ok for my stalker...
and when everyone else says /Invul as it's good for tanking.... surely a scrapper shouldn't be used as a tank in a group anyway, that's not how the archetype should be played.... leave tanking to tanks I say.
Scrappers are there to pick off the enemies on the edges of skirmishes, whilst the tank taunts them. Scrankers get more buddies killed than Scrappers doo, as they have an inferiority complex to Tankers.
Just my opinion..!
Main 50 & Badger Nine Claws Claws/Regen/Body
Other 50's Ph10x Brute Unjust Law Tanker Samantha Urai Scrapper Codename 1250 Scrapper
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The OP specified that he wanted to tank for his friends with this scrapper. Hence the /invuln recommendations.
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On my Claws/WP scrapper, I use Focus a lot. I don't "tank" with that scrapper though. She's built to stand next to a tank and lay down damage while the tank takes the beating. |
Originally Posted by SlyGuyMcFly
Skipping Focus yea-NO. Skipping Focus is a terrible idea. Taking Focus at any level other than 18 is merely a bad idea. What I mean by this is that Focus is awesome. Take it. Love it. Whisper sweet nothings to it as it obliterates your enemies.
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However, I'm not sure Focus is as important the a "tanking" scrapper. Something had to go, so the single target ranged attack seemed to make more sense, considering Taunt is in there for ranged aggro control.
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When I play with my friends, I routinely tank on my Scrappers or Brutes. I can get all the survivability and aggro control I need out of a properly-built Scrapper. I am not getting my friends killed. An actual Tank would therefore be overkill, and would simply represent a big loss of damage output.|
Originally Posted by Nine_Claws
and when everyone else says /Invul as it's good for tanking.... surely a scrapper shouldn't be used as a tank in a group anyway, that's not how the archetype should be played.... leave tanking to tanks I say.
Scrappers are there to pick off the enemies on the edges of skirmishes, whilst the tank taunts them. Scrankers get more buddies killed than Scrappers doo, as they have an inferiority complex to Tankers. |
As for how the archetype should be played, I've been playing since beta. I think I can decide for myself how to play my favorite archetype based on my own experience without being swayed by bumper sticker slogans and well-intentioned rules of thumb.
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While, granted, a Tanker can do a better job holding aggro for a full group, I don't run with a full group. I run a 3-man (well, 2-man and a woman) SG, one of which is a Blaster, the other is a PB. We team regularly and up til now I've been running as a tank. I'm wanting to use a scrapper because I believe I can hold aggro just fine as such, but the added damage will help us to mow down mobs faster. If it doesn't work out, I can always switch back to my tank and be the anvil against which my teammates bash our foes. |
Originally Posted by Nine_Claws
I would vote for /Regen... first 50 and still play him tons.
/SR is ok for my stalker... and when everyone else says /Invul as it's good for tanking.... surely a scrapper shouldn't be used as a tank in a group anyway, that's not how the archetype should be played.... leave tanking to tanks I say. Scrappers are there to pick off the enemies on the edges of skirmishes, whilst the tank taunts them. Scrankers get more buddies killed than Scrappers doo, as they have an inferiority complex to Tankers. Just my opinion..! |
I'd just rather be an anvil with claws. ;-)
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I loved this post. It saved me from typing alot. |
Originally Posted by Werner
When I play with my friends, I routinely tank on my Scrappers or Brutes. I can get all the survivability and aggro control I need out of a properly-built Scrapper. I am not getting my friends killed. An actual Tank would therefore be overkill, and would simply represent a big loss of damage output.
As for how the archetype should be played, I've been playing since beta. I think I can decide for myself how to play my favorite archetype based on my own experience without being swayed by bumper sticker slogans and well-intentioned rules of thumb. |
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Agreed. Hell there's been many times were the tank takes a nose dive and I have to keep aggro on a 5-8 man team on my scrappers or brutes. It can be done, hell, can be done with /reg or /sr to, but /inv is better at it cause of the taunt aura.
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Originally Posted by Gaidin
I loved this post. It saved me from typing alot.
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Willpower has more passive regen than Regen does. Who thought that was a good idea?
Can we get a fix for Energy Melee instead of more new sets?
This makes me wish /SR would get evasion as a taunt aura....
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Originally Posted by tektronics
This makes me wish /SR would get evasion as a taunt aura....
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My main is a bs/wp, and I tank most of the time. I have a claws/wp that is the highest level claws I have ever had. So much fun to play, solo or with my wifes def. Haven't teamed much with him yet.
As Gaidin says
/em WhistfulSigh
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You obviously didn't read the last line of my post that said..... "Just my Opinion!". |
Originally Posted by Werner
When I play with my friends, I routinely tank on my Scrappers or Brutes. I can get all the survivability and aggro control I need out of a properly-built Scrapper. I am not getting my friends killed. An actual Tank would therefore be overkill, and would simply represent a big loss of damage output.
As for how the archetype should be played, I've been playing since beta. I think I can decide for myself how to play my favorite archetype based on my own experience without being swayed by bumper sticker slogans and well-intentioned rules of thumb. |
How anyone plays their scrapper is upto them, and yes scrappers can handle themselves on their own easily. I have no problem handling big mobs solo on any of my scrappers.
The point I was making was that tankers are best at tanking... especially in full teams. In smaller teams, Scrankers are just as effective as Tanks, and certainly have better damage output, as stated my someone else earlier.
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Other 50's Ph10x Brute Unjust Law Tanker Samantha Urai Scrapper Codename 1250 Scrapper
Cepheus Defender Nilus Scrapper Electro Field Blaster S.PONGE Tanker
Thanks for the replies, everyone. I'll give /Invul a try. I haven't played it since it got that big nerf so long ago. Any tips on how to build? This looks like it's going to be hard to fit everything in.
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