A Revamp for Rest.

Rest is fine as it is..Quit moaning.,

/Signed and /Signed in duplicate

I can't even begin to think of all the times I've been in the lower levels standin' in front ofa Mob with 0 Endurance and 0 Blues, waitin' for Rest to recharge...
This would be a great thing to implement if only for QoL.

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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha So...one good reason why not 0 sec recharge?

I can't think ofa *good* reason (5am ) but when you want the Ironman badge (1m points of damage taken) for the Born in Battle Accolade, Rest is pretty handy to have.
Again, like I said, its not a good reason and I find I'm askin' myself why I even bothered to type it. XD

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What risk factor? Outside of the time spent healing, there's no difference between Resting and standing around for a full minute or so. If anything, due to all the penalties given while resting, it's theoretically riskier.

Why did rest get a recharge in the first place?

I'm guessing the answer is something like Jack is a jerk and thinks balance by annoyance is a good idea?

If you're resting after every single mob maybe you should lower the difficulty (or team with a friend)

I don't believe the difficulty goes lower than x1/-1/no/no. On that level of difficulty, there are (sane!) builds that, especially at certain level ranges, will use up half or more of their endurance and/or health on a single spawn. Teaming is not always possible, and more to the point, it is explicitly a design requirement that all sane builds be capable of soloing at a rate above a certain minimum. A zero-recharge rest has no effect on people who already exceed this minimum; it merely brings up the rewards for the absolute lowest tier of performance. Considering how many orders of magnitude greater than this lowest tier we can elevate our performance without it being considered unbalanced, there's really no rewards balance reason not to throw the absolute worst performers a bone.

In fact, the recharge need not even be zero: for the absolute worst performers in terms of DPS/DPE, it may take as long as a minute to defeat a single spawn, so a 60 second recharge would achieve the same goal of making Rest available whenever it's needed.

Of course, I may as well be talking to a post for all the good it will do.

So as it turns out, I actually don't have anything more interesting to do than talk to fenceposts.

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Originally Posted by MondoCool I played an MA/SD and had no problems with endurance in the lower levels. Use blue insps.

I believe he said MA/SR, as in Super Reflexes, not MA/SD, as in Shield Defense, so there's your problem.

Unless of course you're claiming that SR and SD provide equivalent benefits in the pre-SO levels. But you wouldn't claim that, because that would be absurd.

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Originally Posted by MondoCool A zero-recharge rest would make the game too easy

No it wouldn't. As long as the level of challenge requires that a conscious human being be at the controls, it is not too easy for a MMO. To appeal to the widest possible audience, the difficulty floor should be very, very low - as long as rewards are proportional, this is not a problem.

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and not adhere to comic book lore. You don't see Batman being restored to perfect health and endurace after every group of enemies he fights.

Nor have I ever seen him do any of the many things that you do in this game because it is a game and not a comic book, nor can I do in game the many things that Batman can do in his comic book because it is a comic book and not a game.

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Besides, why should we hold the hands of people that suck too badly to play the game without failing?

Money. Specifically, their money, which they spend to play the game, and which is in turn spent on features for the game that you also enjoy. That money which they would not spend on this game if it were too hard for them to achieve any success at all, or if succeeding required them to join a team.

Does it personally offend you to play a game where achieving minimal success is really really easy? If so, you may find this game, and most other MMOs, offensive.