Non-Humanoid Character Models?


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Originally Posted by Hydrofoil_Zero View Post
It wouldn't be fare to put in all that work for only a few powersets. Even if the animal was make to hold the weapons in it's mouth it would get real boring do to the limited range of animations.
Now a power that let you transform into a animal complete with veracious attacks now that would be possible. Or maybe an animal trainer MM. Or beast power AT might work.
This could be cool. We already have a precedent there in the form of Khaldians. I wonder if the devs have any plans for expanding shapeshifting ATs...


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Dozens of people have been asking for more military-style costumes and armor since I1, but we haven't gotten that yet. I think that's more important than fulfilling the fantasies of maybe one or two furries.
Really? I hadn't heard much call for military clothes. I'm sure some ask for it but not in any sort of specific angle (saying 'more military clothes' is akin to saying 'more powersets'. It's not asking for anything in specific).

And considering we already have military clothes and patterns...

But the animal models go beyond 'fulfilling fantasies of 2 furries'. There's the realism angle (an entire city with no quadrupeds at all? no stray cats or dogs? no squirrels climbing in the trees or rummaging in the grass? no rats wallowing in the stinky sewers?) and the completion angle (it's not like other games lack such models. Hell, I think CO has powers so you can summon wolves).

Besides that, what's stopping you from making your own thread asking for military armor? It certainly can't be a thread asking for animal models that is hindering your keyboard.


 

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This is terrible and we should fix it immediately because some random furry says so.
Exactly. So what's your problem here again?


 

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Furries are a disease. Same with weaboos.
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/annou...php?f=565&a=17

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Lol I see what's going on here...

Posters have speculated that the new upcoming mutant booster might have monsterous and animal costume parts. Now you guys are all butt-hurt because "Waaah! The devs are giving those dirty furries what they want! Where's my attention? Waaaah!"

:P Well CRY MOAR! Your whiny complaints and tears of anguish and scorn sustain me


 

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Furries are the only thing that makes me want open world PvP.


 

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>implying you can troll
*Leo has hit the nail on the head*

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This could be cool. We already have a precedent there in the form of Khaldians. I wonder if the devs have any plans for expanding shapeshifting ATs...
Personally, I'm hoping they expand on the customization options on the Khelds. I'm sure one of them will mutate in a way that gives them the ability to shift into a vastly different shape than normal. Although another shapeshifting AT would be nice too...


 

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*Leo has hit the nail on the head*

LOL


Personally, I'm hoping they expand on the customization options on the Khelds. I'm sure one of them will mutate in a way that gives them the ability to shift into a vastly different shape than normal. Although another shapeshifting AT would be nice too...
It doesn't even come close to working that way. The shapeshifting concept is that they have an energy pattern of their past hosts and can shift into those energy patterns. They really can't "mutate" into something new, but there can always be more patterns.

Not that they really need them.

Or that people actually roleplay Kheldians as real Kheldians.


 

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Dozens of people have been asking for more military-style costumes and armor since I1, but we haven't gotten that yet. I think that's more important than fulfilling the fantasies of maybe one or two furries.
Ah, there we go. Another bigot has entered the stage. You can pick your badge up over there.


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I love how people go straight to calling someone a furry the moment they ask for animal costume options. It doesn't seem to matter that there have been a large number of animal like people in comics for years. Wanting to play a Beast Boy type hero does not make someone a furry.


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I find it interesting that so many people know that turm. You'd think that only he people who are interested in that sort of thing would know it.
Me, I had to look it up. Hentai no baka!!! :P


 

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I find it interesting that so many people know that turm. You'd think that only he people who are interested in that sort of thing would know it.
Me, I had to look it up. Hentai no baka!!! :P
What you probably looked up isn't the right definition:

Let me phrase it this way. Walt Kelly was a Furry. Chuck Jones was a Furry. Walt Disney was a Furry. Tex Avery was a Furry. Bill Watterson is a Furry. Frank Oz is a Furry. Jim Henson was a Furry. Jim Davis is a Furry.

Being a "furry" simply means connecting with, or just simply liking Anthropromorphic Animals. It's one of the most difficult perceptions "furry's" have to deal with since that definition isn't used by people in Hollywood (e.g. CSI), or by people in the so called Drive-By-Media (e.g. Reuters, Associated Press, CNN, NBC, MicrosoftNBC, ABC, CBS)

And if you didn't get impact from the names of those people, here's what they created:

Walt Kelly drew Pogo Possum
Chuck Jones drew Loony Toons.
Walt Disney drew Mickey Mouse
Tex Avery drew Loony Toons
Bill Watterson drew Calvin and Hobbs
Frank Oz voices the Muppets
Jim Henson created the Muppets
Jim Davis draws Garfield


 

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What you probably looked up isn't the right definition:

Let me phrase it this way. Walt Kelly was a Furry. Chuck Jones was a Furry. Walt Disney was a Furry. Tex Avery was a Furry. Bill Watterson is a Furry. Frank Oz is a Furry. Jim Henson was a Furry. Jim Davis is a Furry.

Being a "furry" simply means connecting with, or just simply liking Anthropromorphic Animals. It's one of the most difficult perceptions "furry's" have to deal with since that definition isn't used by people in Hollywood (e.g. CSI), or by people in the so called Drive-By-Media (e.g. Reuters, Associated Press, CNN, NBC, MicrosoftNBC, ABC, CBS)

And if you didn't get impact from the names of those people, here's what they created:

Walt Kelly drew Pogo Possum
Chuck Jones drew Loony Toons.
Walt Disney drew Mickey Mouse
Tex Avery drew Loony Toons
Bill Watterson drew Calvin and Hobbs
Frank Oz voices the Muppets
Jim Henson created the Muppets
Jim Davis draws Garfield
Oh I know that definition. But that doesn't explain why they are getting so upset with the anthropomorphic toon idea. That's why I had to look it up. It's the more XXX definition that people seen to be bringing up.


 

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Dozens of people have been asking for more military-style costumes and armor since I1, but we haven't gotten that yet. I think that's more important than fulfilling the fantasies of maybe one or two furries.
Aside from your asinine "fantasies of one or two furries" BS, you *have* gotten more military style pieces since I1. (Stealth pieces, especially the chest detail, military/police belt, various armor pieces, including samurai,) unlockable weapons and the like.

Similarly, we have also gotten more animal pieces ("Monstrous" heads, which need some work still, the now-moving tails, variety of ears.)

Wish granted. Now you can learn to *ignore stuff you don't like* and let others play with what they want. Don't like the pieces? Don't use them. Simple enough for most to understand.

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We have very few. I'm more specifically mentioning the costume parts from Malta, PPD SWAT, etc... Besides, we have plenty of furry options. Even animated tails! What other costume parts (besides wings) do we have that are animated? None.
Right off the top of my head -

Rocket boots.
Piston boots.
Ruularu shields/swords/axes (swiveling eye.)
All capes.
And I don't believe you can call TECH wings "furry."


 

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Seriously wondering if Mondo isn't just seeing how quickly she/he/it can get banned for a second time in a row (honestly thought bans on the forums were a one strike and you're out kind of deal...guess not). The main problem with this suggestion is a case of "OH GODZORS DO NOT WANT FURRIES!" its a rather larger problem...

...Unfortunately the amount of work required isn't just 'another powerset' kind of new animations...you're looking at thousands upon thousands of animations. BaB would probably personally come round your house, gut you and strangle you with your own intestines if you were to make him do this...the game is at too later stage for this to happen within even a reasonable timeframe...

Lets take a quick look at the two non-humanoid models we already have. Tarantulas lack proper arms...and Snakes lack Legs...and neither could use martial arts.

Now as an additional branch to the Arachnos AT where your powers are pretty much 'locked in' then yes I can see the Tarantula/Tarantula Queen type body working because you'd be limited to powers that would work with that body type...you'd still have the problem of travel powers though...

The work required is just so massive that you're looking at no new powersets for probably at least a year...if not longer...


 

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Seriously wondering if Mondo isn't just seeing how quickly she/he/it can get banned for a second time in a row
>implying I've been banned


 

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Well my mistake then because I distinctly remember seeing your name and 'banned' underneath it...

....if not then my bad...

Perhaps if you tried being less hostile you wouldn't get the reaction you're getting...you know...just because it's the internet doesn't mean you have to subscribe to Gabes theory on it...


 

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Well my mistake then because I distinctly remember seeing your name and 'banned' underneath it...

....if not then my bad...

Perhaps if you tried being less hostile you wouldn't get the reaction you're getting...you know...just because it's the internet doesn't mean you have to subscribe to Gabes theory on it...
>implying I care about what people think of me


 

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Well obviously you do or you wouldn't be here in the first place...


 

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While animal body-types are not really workable with the powersets, we currently have costume pieces that approx what most are looking for. And with the application of the proper emote, bingo!

I'd like to see diff body-types for the non-glam hero


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I would absolutely LOVE some new skeletons. If they created one all fours skeleton and did all of the proper animations and used that one skeleton for cats, dogs, foxes, horses, elephants etc. there is still the problem with the powers that require you to use weapons, devices, arms or legs. I wish it would happen, I really do, but it won't. You all can argue until you kill each other. It still wouldn't change the fact that this game is not made for animals.

The best idea I can offer with minimal problems is a compromise of making animal pets for a MM aka beast master. Such pets would not have to deal with being compatible with the power sets, so scratch the blah blah blah about power set animations. They would still have to do a LOT of work, but like I said if they made one 4 legged pet skeleton, they could use it for several types of animals. I would like to see the following pets for a beast MM:

Wolves (3 pack): Winter wolf with cold damage, regular wolf with lethal damage, and a dire wolf with toxic damage.

Bird: Could be a falcon or an eagle, a dangerous bird of prey. (could possibly use the kheldian nova skeleton just change the 3d model) Lethal damage.

Cats (2 pack): maybe a lion and lioness, or a lion which would use lethal damage and a black panther which could use dark energy damage type.

Large animal: possibly a bull or rhino with smashing/lethal and lots of knockback.

The beast master himself could have:
hold power that uses a large boa constrictor, wouldn't need a skeleton it could just be cosmetic.
2 damage powers: give him a sword or a bow and arrow to recycle a couple of those powers and animations.
Empowerment buff: gives the pets a few extra powers or abilities.

So now you have 4 different animal models to make. They would require significantly less animations: 4-8 powers each including Clawing/biting melee attacks, lunge/pounce attacks, charging and raring for the large animal. Spawn, despawn, Run, jump, flight/perch for the bird, reaction animation for buffs (a growl of some sort) and a few special emote animations since they would not be able to use any of the current emotes and a few for being idle. So each would need about at most 20-25 animations for a total of 100 new animations for the entire powerset.

As much as I really like this idea, it will probably be shot down as well because it is just too much work to make new stuff. But it is a much more likely alternative to getting animals into the game. Even if it were implemented, I wouldn't expect them to start on it for at least 2-3 years from now because there are too many things they want to do with the game that require less work and apply to a broader spectrum of players.

But it would be pretty sweet right?



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>implying I care about what people think of me
You know, it's odd how people keep going out of their way to insist they don't care about what other people think about them.


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Right off the top of my head -

Rocket boots.
Piston boots.
Ruularu shields/swords/axes (swiveling eye.)
All capes.
And I don't believe you can call TECH wings "furry."
Trench coats
Bane Spider Back Pack (I think it's the bane spider)
Magic Bolero

And I wouldn't even consider Valkyrie wings furry they look razor sharp to me.


 

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Well my mistake then because I distinctly remember seeing your name and 'banned' underneath it...
I seem to recall seeing that myself, but as you said we could be wrong.


 

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Originally Posted by Leo_G View Post
Sounds pretty awesome to me. I mean, if for whatever reason someone creates a dog that uses a sword, how else would they use it? Carry it with their fingerless paws by some high-tech antigravity device because they lack thumbs? Now that sounds horrible.
Sorry it took so long for me to come back to this, but I had to stop laughing from the image of a dog trying to fit a broad sword handle into it's mouth, move around with it trying to keep the tip off the ground and then attempt to disembowel someone with it.

I think your argument falls apart here:

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someone creates a dog that uses a sword,
You are already having to suspend belief pretty heftily here and the normal way of addressing this would indeed to be giving the dog opposable thumbs. The only way I could see this working is through Anthropromorphic personification, which the OP clearly isn't after. There would be far to many restrictions otherwise.