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Pre-existing L50s can make the switch. The devs statements you want for proof exist but I'm not going to do your work and search for them now. Either you simply believe me or look it up yourself or hope for someone else to provide such a statement.
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Originally Posted by American_Angel
Will we have to start a toon from scratch in order to have him change sides? Or can a pre-existing level 50 make the switch?
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Well...
I am too lazy and sleepy right now to do a search and give you Dev feedback...
But I think the only few things we can be certain is:
1) One can change loyalty how much they want, as long as the steps (no one knows what they will be) are taken.
2) A 50 can change too. You dont have to start a praetorian to do that.
3) A praetorian will choose their allegiance at about level 20. Then he will be a hero or a villain, and will be able, like the others, to change loyalty by following the misterious process...
I am certain that someone with more coffee on the bloodstream will point you to the devs posts...
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Okay.
http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Going_Rogue
Whew... that was hard.
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Originally Posted by Dispari
I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.
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Asking people to back up their words with proof is not wrong are asking them to do the work for "me". It's simply wanting facts, not theory.
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Pay no mind A_Angel. I saw that you qualified your request with "if possible". Snarky morning people will snark.|
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To be fair, however, a search in the Going Rogue forums or Dev Digest would probably have netted you your answer. You can narrow the search by forum in the advanced search feature, and clicking on the "by post or by thread" box will help too, depending on how you like to see your search results.
This is not a snark, just a little fyi to help avoid future snarks.
Now, that coffee that KayJMM mentioned sounds pretty good.
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My coffee is always good... Strong Brazillian blend...
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Originally Posted by Impish Kat
Now, that coffee that KayJMM mentioned sounds pretty good.
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Originally Posted by Impish Kat
Pay no mind A_Angel. I saw that you qualified your request with "if possible". Snarky morning people will snark.
To be fair, however, a search in the Going Rogue forums or Dev Digest would probably have netted you your answer. You can narrow the search by forum in the advanced search feature, and clicking on the "by post or by thread" box will help too, depending on how you like to see your search results. This is not a snark, just a little fyi to help avoid future snarks. Now, that coffee that KayJMM mentioned sounds pretty good. |
I didn't say anything but my first impression was that the OP's post had a slightly demanding quality to it. My perception may be colored because in posts made by others that are similar to the OP's it turns out that had the questioner made the tiniest effort to do a search or look in paragonwiki they would have found their answer.
True, but the most likely people to ask questions in "Player Questions" are people new to the game, and probably not as comfortable with search features (and most certainly not aware of the Wiki). I know a lot of the same questions do get asked with regularity, but it is good to remember that they're often being asked to people that are still feeling their way around. Questions should be welcomed and answered as courteously as possible.
And the OP might have been tricked by others before, heh. Still, I know how it goes. A little part of me cries whenever someone asks why they can't find people in game, as it has been answered so much. I just asked Mod 8 to get a sticky up in the Victory section on the subject, so hopefully more people will not have to ask the question that has been answered so often. Teams are out there, here's how to look!
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Except it's not theory. You don't have to believe us when we say the sky is blue--it'll still be blue. What everyone else said is true. If you want proof, the burden of that request is on you.
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Originally Posted by American_Angel
Asking people to back up their words with proof is not wrong are asking them to do the work for "me". It's simply wanting facts, not theory.
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If it's simply wanting facts, you could have done the same thing you're requiring of us. You're just being lazy and got called on it. Searching through the forums is not hard. Especially if you're wanting Dev comments. They have a nice section of the forums just for their posts.
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Originally Posted by American_Angel
Asking people to back up their words with proof is not wrong are asking them to do the work for "me". It's simply wanting facts, not theory.
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Loose --> not tight.
Lose --> Did not win, misplace, cannot find, subtract.
One extra 'o' makes a big difference.
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Originally Posted by American_Angel
Asking people to back up their words with proof is not wrong are asking them to do the work for "me". It's simply wanting facts, not theory.
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Originally Posted by Grey Pilgrim
True, but the most likely people to ask questions in "Player Questions" are people new to the game
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Originally Posted by Dispari
I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.
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True. But, from where we're sitting, "wanting facts" is pretty much indistinguishable from "being lazy".
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Asking people to back up their words with proof is not wrong are asking them to do the work for "me". It's simply wanting facts, not theory.
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Originally Posted by Aggelakis
A_Angel is not new. I will not treat him with kid gloves because of previous experience.
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Ahhhh... so you see fit to take it upon yourself to "punish" folks who, in your opinion, should "know better", effectively becoming some sort of self-appointed forum police... yeah, good to know.
FWIW, even if I don't always agree with somebody's post, I do try to give them the benefit of doubt and save my snarkiness for those who really, truly deserve it. I think the level of snark that has permeated this thread has been... over-reactive, at best.
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Ahhhh... so you see fit to take it upon yourself to "punish" folks who, in your opinion, should "know better", effectively becoming some sort of self-appointed forum police... yeah, good to know.
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Originally Posted by Dispari
I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.
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fix't
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Originally Posted by Aggelakis
So this:somehow equals punishing someone...? Okay... I just see unnecessary, counterproductive sarcasm, but whatever floats your boat.
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"fix't"
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*adjusts rose colored glasses*
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Originally Posted by Dispari
I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.
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Ladies if I have to stop this forum and spank your little bottms it's really going to turn me on, and nobody wants to see me horny.
Nobody.
If that isn't enough to deter you two from fighting then at least give me some time to make some jello and set up a video camera. 
Me-yow!
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No, not ticked. Just use to posting on sports forums where links are provided to backup claims so we know they are facts and not opinions. I really meant no offense by it.
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Originally Posted by Grey Pilgrim
True, but the most likely people to ask questions in "Player Questions" are people new to the game, and probably not as comfortable with search features (and most certainly not aware of the Wiki). I know a lot of the same questions do get asked with regularity, but it is good to remember that they're often being asked to people that are still feeling their way around. Questions should be welcomed and answered as courteously as possible.
And the OP might have been tricked by others before, heh. Still, I know how it goes. A little part of me cries whenever someone asks why they can't find people in game, as it has been answered so much. I just asked Mod 8 to get a sticky up in the Victory section on the subject, so hopefully more people will not have to ask the question that has been answered so often. Teams are out there, here's how to look! |
The issue isn't that you want links to back up claims- that's common practice on these forums too. The OP came off as a little demanding, and you are asking for information that has been widely known and easily available for quite some time now. You've been around long enough to know about things like ParagonWiki. That should always be your first stop when you have questions about the game. If the answer isn't there, we probably don't know it.
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Originally Posted by Bossa_Nova
The issue isn't that you want links to back up claims- that's common practice on these forums too. The OP came off as a little demanding, and you are asking for information that has been widely known and easily available for quite some time now. You've been around long enough to know about things like ParagonWiki. That should always be your first stop when you have questions about the game. If the answer isn't there, we probably don't know it.
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This hostility towards people asking questions is retarded.
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I tend to agree.
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Originally Posted by rsclark
So this board should be deleted since it serves no purpose?
This hostility towards people asking questions is retarded. |
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It's not that bad of an expectation. Usually people here will note if it's something they remember very well or not (a lot of times they'll say things like AFAIK, etc.), and it does take a bit to know who knows way too much about the game (and what topics don't need too much citing).|
Originally Posted by American_Angel
No, not ticked. Just use to posting on sports forums where links are provided to backup claims so we know they are facts and not opinions. I really meant no offense by it.
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People on the forums are generally pretty nice, and the only things you really need to cite are numbers in game for how powers work, etc. But it's still usually best if people link to the Wiki or wherever they got info from.
For what it's worth, I positive repped you, since people took what you said in a negative way, though it wasn't really intentional. It's weird, too, since people usually answer questions nicely. I guess you just pushed some buttons with your phrasing, heh.
For the Going Rogue stuff, we still know only so much since it's still in super secret closed beta and they are only telling us little bits and pieces to keep us slavering for more, heh. I am hoping for more as May goes on and we get closer to the July release date.
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Story Arc: Belated Justice, #88003
Synopsis: Explore the fine line between justice and vengeance as you help a hero of Talos Island bring his friend's murderer to justice.
Grey Pilgrim: Fire/Fire Tanker (50), Victory
Will we have to start a toon from scratch in order to have him change sides? Or can a pre-existing level 50 make the switch?
Please provide Dev statements for proof if possible.