What happened to the population of this server?
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Altoholic_Monkey,
Posted on: 2010-05-01 20:56 in Freedom
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Originally Posted by Postagulous
Actually, it seems to me that the population has shot up massively.
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lol It must have been even worse than it is now while i was gone.
I'd hardly call the current population count "massive".
Wow, mine is a bit of a different experience just coming back to the game...blind invites, "lft?" tells quite frequently, even in the early morning hours when I play, and Atlas Park being one big rubberband when the AVs showed up. Even got into a decent sg pretty early on. Are u sure your not hidden somehow? One thing with this particular weekend....no wws... that's got to be a deterent for some gamers...
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Originally Posted by TwwIX
I have been away for a couple of months and i was shocked to see that the population of this server dropped so drastically. The server's are usually swamped during the release of a new issue. Especially this one. I have been soloing for the majority of the time since i have come back. So, what happened? Where did all the subscribers go?
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Waits for someone to tell you you need to actually find a team instead of sitting on your backside waiting to be flooded with blind invites.
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Whoops!
Hint: With the new difficulty settings, you are NOT guaranteed a place on a team. For some players, you're merely a pity filler who actually slows them down and reduces their earnings. For others, you're still not needed as they can reduce the difficulty until they feel comfortable soloing.
As such, you have to make a concerted, ACTUAL effort to get on or form a team.
Also, right now the latest issue just dropped.
A lot of people ARE teamed. They're off destroying their framerates with Ultra Mode and 8-man Demon Summoning Mastermind teams. They're badging. They're running some of the new arcs.
Instead of being the 3,291,737,573rd person to date to gripe about it, expend a little effort. If stuff is handed to you, you don't appreciate it.
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Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
Waits for someone to tell you you need to actually find a team instead of sitting on your backside waiting to be flooded with blind invites. ... ... Whoops! Hint: With the new difficulty settings, you are NOT guaranteed a place on a team. For some players, you're merely a pity filler who actually slows them down and reduces their earnings. For others, you're still not needed as they can reduce the difficulty until they feel comfortable soloing. As such, you have to make a concerted, ACTUAL effort to get on or form a team. Also, right now the latest issue just dropped. A lot of people ARE teamed. They're off destroying their framerates with Ultra Mode and 8-man Demon Summoning Mastermind teams. They're badging. They're running some of the new arcs. Instead of being the 3,291,737,573rd person to date to gripe about it, expend a little effort. If stuff is handed to you, you don't appreciate it. |
I am neither sitting on my *** nor am i whining about the game, my pretentious little friend. It's not just me that has noticed the lack of players. A few veterans that have recently returned to the game had come to the very same conclusion. Numerous of my global friends are gone and they will likely will not return. I recently had a conversation about this very subject with a friend and she told to me that quite a few people left because of the infinite farming exploits that were present shortly after the release of the Missions Architect. I was aware of that, because i was one of them. However, even more left once AE farming eventually was addressed. Since so many players got spoiled by the constant farming and power leveling. Anyway, the population of this server and other servers in general have quite clearly dropped since the last time i played the game. I just simply was wondering what the reasons behind it were.
By the way. You don't know a damn thing about me, buddy. So, please spare me you arm chair lectures on how i should be playing the game.
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It's a little quieter in AP and the high transit areas, yes. Looking at my global lists, though, I'm seeing about double what I saw a few months ago. At least for teaming, I don't hurt at all when I want a team, but I also stick with my global friends and channel contacts instead of pub teaming.|
Originally Posted by TwwIX
I have been away for a couple of months and i was shocked to see that the population of this server dropped so drastically. The server's are usually swamped during the release of a new issue. Especially this one. I have been soloing for the majority of the time since i have come back. So, what happened? Where did all the subscribers go?
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I have noticed that Virtue's been dipping into the yellow more often than Freedom. They always say that "it's a measure of server stress, not population", but in my eyes that's roughly analagous (wouldn't it be a kick if the pro farmers had moved there for better opportunities?
). If you're asking where our population went... well, it IS six years later. As good as COH still is (and Issue 17 is pretty snazzy in my books), people look at the age and would rather go for the "new hotness" of other, more technically savvy games. Understandable, but I think people need something as bar-raising as Going Rogue to try this as a new game.Then again, I've chatted with a number of new players too within the last week, and they were generally trial account or brand-new sub status who picked up the game on their own. So marketing's doing SOMETHING right there.
We'll see. The house is a bit quieter, but that just means more signal, less noise. I'm diggin' it.
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Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
Waits for someone to tell you you need to actually find a team instead of sitting on your backside waiting to be flooded with blind invites. ... ... Whoops! Hint: With the new difficulty settings, you are NOT guaranteed a place on a team. For some players, you're merely a pity filler who actually slows them down and reduces their earnings. For others, you're still not needed as they can reduce the difficulty until they feel comfortable soloing. As such, you have to make a concerted, ACTUAL effort to get on or form a team. Also, right now the latest issue just dropped. A lot of people ARE teamed. They're off destroying their framerates with Ultra Mode and 8-man Demon Summoning Mastermind teams. They're badging. They're running some of the new arcs. Instead of being the 3,291,737,573rd person to date to gripe about it, expend a little effort. If stuff is handed to you, you don't appreciate it. |
Nope. Sorry pal. This game's population is low lately. If the OP has been gone since maybe last summer then he will have noticed a change in pop.
As far as I have seen, Virtue has been the only server that hit medium load (since i17 drop).
So, yes, there are fewer players and it's a bit concerning but the game is still fun. I can still easily find teams but the game is not as busy as it was not too long ago.
Why? Well, IMO, it has stagnated with not too many new things to do and long gaps between updates. Based on the recent updates and direction, I don't know if Going Rogue will add too many players but c'est la vie. It's a game and it's still fun. Enjoy it while you can
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Note that I didn't say you were. I merely noted that a certain style of behavior will likely NOT result in a lot of teaming.|
Originally Posted by TwwIX
I am neither sitting on my *** nor am i whining about the game, my pretentious little friend.
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| It's not just me that has noticed the lack of players. A few veterans that have recently returned to the game had come to the very same conclusion. Numerous of my global friends are gone and they will likely will not return. |
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| I recently had a conversation about this very subject with a friend and she told to me that quite a few people left because of the infinite farming exploits that were present shortly after the release of the Missions Architect. I was aware of that, because i was one of them. However, even more left once AE farming eventually was addressed. Since so many players got spoiled by the constant farming and power leveling. Anyway, the population of this server and other servers in general have quite clearly dropped since the last time i played the game. |
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| I just simply was wondering what the reasons behind it were. |
Then wonder what might be the reasons for possible mass exodus events.
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| By the way. You don't know a damn thing about me, buddy. |
All I can say is that I don't REQUIRE you to LIKE what I tell you.
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| So, please spare me you arm chair lectures on how i should be playing the game. |
If you choose to ignore this advice, that's your own problem.
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May be. I haven't not been back long enough to make that judgment. I just know that the game lacks a lot of players atm. I am certainly not the only one with that opinion. |
Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
So you've noticed the mysterious phenomenon known as turnover (aka churn).
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Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
State reasons for possible mass exodus events from the game.
Then wonder what might be the reasons for possible mass exodus events. |
I wasn't aware of any "mass exodus events". The server was still heavily populated when i left. So, i don't know what you are talking about. Yeah, i had my theories when i came back but i didn't really know until i spoke to some of the old timers that are still around. How is that hard to comprehend?
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Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
Note that I didn't say you were. I merely noted that a certain style of behavior will likely NOT result in a lot of teaming.
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I'd say the same holds true in reverse. You just happened to be unlucky enough to hit on one of my peeves. The whole "Server pop is in the toilet, the game is dying, DOOOOOOOOO*PANT*PANT*PANT*OOOOOOOOOOOOM!" thread.
All I can say is that I don't REQUIRE you to LIKE what I tell you. |
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Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
Again. Never said how you should be playing the game. Merely noted that there are several styles of play that will result in unsatisfactory teaming for you.
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I never said that the game is dying nor did i cry doom. Those are just delusions of yours.
Nothing else.
Also. I think that i am mature enough to know how to appropriately socialize with others in this world, let alone a game. So, don't patronize me.
I don't play on Freedom, but I've noticed it on the login screen and was thinking about this. While Virtue is yellow every day since I17, Freedom doesn't seem to break green. I remember when Freedom was always yellow and sometimes even Red. Freedom was highest load every time and Virtue was second highest. Seems Virtue pulled out in front.
So, to put it another way, Virtue wins.
That is all.
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Originally Posted by eltonio
This is over the top mental slavery.
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I returned 3 weeks ago after 1.5 years and today was the first time I saw Virtue with 2 dots and freedom with one, considering I played for 24 months before. Maybe it's server stress as mentioned.
But weird.
I haven't actually read this thread, but I appreciate the fact that there is a thread here...
Waaaaaaiiiitttt a minute...a year or so ago wasn't there some ****** named twixt (*spelling?) that used to hang around RV whining and complaining, logging out just before being beaten, and generally just being a nuisance? My memories fuzzy, but my goodness, has twixt* emerged again?
blah blah blah, massive quotes of manly correction only serve to convince yourselves of what you already believed.
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No. But your basic point is merely a stepping stone toward alluding the same.|
Originally Posted by TwwIX
I never said that the game is dying nor did i cry doom.
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| Also. I think that i am mature enough to know how to appropriately socialize with others in this world, let alone a game. So, don't patronize me. |
Whatever. Have a nice life.
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Server transfers, man. Those who knew got with the dilly and went to virtue.
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to further describe it, the months of FREE server transfers.
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Originally Posted by Warkupo
Server transfers, man. Those who knew got with the dilly and went to virtue.
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Didn't you miss the whole blow up about that. Turns out he was a 'professor' doing 'research'.|
Originally Posted by Kryon1z1
Waaaaaaiiiitttt a minute...a year or so ago wasn't there some ****** named twixt (*spelling?) that used to hang around RV whining and complaining, logging out just before being beaten, and generally just being a nuisance? My memories fuzzy, but my goodness, has twixt* emerged again?
blah blah blah, massive quotes of manly correction only serve to convince yourselves of what you already believed. |
I read some of his papers and yes the 'quotes' are intentional.
I doubt the OP is him in another guise though.
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Didn't you miss
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the whole blow up about that.
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Turns out he was a 'professor' doing 'research'.
I read some of |
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his papers and yes the 'quotes' are intentional.
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Originally Posted by Catwhoorg
OP is him in another guise though.
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"I believe freedom has lost population"
"nu uh"
"ya huh" etc etc
...so your saying this isn't him? Why doesn't he just flat out deny the accusation himself? I'll accept that as proof (/e crosses fingers and toes).
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I actually went TOO Freedom, but I can see how six years of Freedom's particular brand of "fun" might cause a mass exodus (atm machine, I know) away from the place.
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Originally Posted by Danheg
to further describe it, the months of FREE server transfers.
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The freedom server got an equipment upgrade to reduce the stress on it that is why it is not always yellow. It is not accurate to compare it now with prior to the upgrade to use it to measure population change.
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IIRC, most, if not all of the servers were involved in that upgrade. You are correct that a yellow status before would show up as green on today's hardware, so looking at the color status alone would bring somebody to an incorrect assumption.... but there actually has been a population shift recently. I know quite a few people from Freedom that have been playing on other servers a lot. Large groups of us even went and made SGs on other servers and have scheduled events from time to time.|
Originally Posted by Phillygirl
The freedom server got an equipment upgrade to reduce the stress on it that is why it is not always yellow. It is not accurate to compare it now with prior to the upgrade to use it to measure population change.
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That, and if you click on a different server at the server selection screen, then go back and look.. Virtue is now at the bottom of the list and Freedom is right above it. It used to be the other way around, meaning Virtue holds the highest and Freedom is probably not far behind.
That's without even factoring the number of people that have actually left for other games. I know quite a few of them as well. Sure, some of them might still play CoH on top of the new game, but it's more casual, rather than every chance they get.
We have still had many new subscribers. The problem is they are all AE-babies with 100 lvl 50s thinking they know everything about the game even though they know very little. Because of this, they get bored easy, and move on to another game faster.
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I have to say that I generally get more lag on Pinnacle these days than I do on Freedom. At any given time, do a /whoall in a zone on Pinnacle & be one of only 2-3 people showing.|
Originally Posted by Phillygirl
The freedom server got an equipment upgrade to reduce the stress on it that is why it is not always yellow. It is not accurate to compare it now with prior to the upgrade to use it to measure population change.
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So the Freedom Server upgrade is pretty good - comparably.
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Well geez I'm getting triple bubbed this evening trying to log in to freedom... population must be up..
**oh my bad, freedom is just plain down... eiffel 65 "blue" style.."I'm bug, abo dee abo buggy, abo dee abo buggy, abo dee abo bug...I have a bug game with a bug update, I have a hero, but he is all bugged, buggy is what we see and do, your whole damn server is buggy to you..."
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Yes there was a all server upgrade and then Freedom got its own special brand of upgrading because of one of the DXP meltdown. As I recall, Freedom got its own special booster because of the population size. |
Originally Posted by Master-Blade
IIRC, most, if not all of the servers were involved in that upgrade.
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It takes more to make Freedom go yellow than it did previously. You more than likely won't see Freedom hit yellow until the next DXP weekend or GR release. I believe this was around the time of the Great Freedom Grayout
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Originally Posted by Altoholic_Monkey
Yes there was a all server upgrade and then Freedom got its own special brand of upgrading because of one of the DXP meltdown. As I recall, Freedom got its own special booster because of the population size.
It takes more to make Freedom go yellow than it did previously. You more than likely won't see Freedom hit yellow until the next DXP weekend or GR release. I believe this was around the time of the Great Freedom Grayout |
I wish we could see the numbers for the servers. Even if they don't want to give out exact membership count or character numbers, a percentage for each server would be cool... including EU.
I have been away for a couple of months and i was shocked to see that the population of this server dropped so drastically. The server's are usually swamped during the release of a new issue. Especially this one. I have been soloing for the majority of the time since i have come back. So, what happened? Where did all the subscribers go?