why cant u use super speed to walk on water or on walls

why cant u use super speed to walk on water or on walls, i think we should be able to go to our options and set if u would like to walk up walls/water with super speed pls reply soon this has been bugging me for a long time

Because™.

Walking on water would truly be a visual thing (all of the water in the game is waist-high), and it simply was never added, nor is it a high priority. Also worth noting is that the maximum run speed in this game is not fast enough for a human to run on water, so if you want to bring in real-world physics, there's that.

Walking on walls is a large endeavor in modifying the game's physics, as well as making significant changes to the geometry of the world. There's also the fact that the travel powers are balanced against each other to some extent by their mobility. Super Speed is mostly limited to flat ground, so it's faster than Super Jump or Fly to compensate.

all true but they could make it so if they stand still they sink or fall off the wall

when flash in the dc comics runs up a building or some how runs on water dont u ever marvel at that and say that is really amazing, dont u think that would be cool to be able to do that in city of heroes/villains i know that all my friends and i always say i that it would be awesome

Well of course we think it would be cool. It is not, however, programmable. At least not within a manageable time frame that would deem it more important than 'whatever else' the devs have decided is more important.

Well, wall-walking "simply" (and by simply, I mean not happening to this game any time soon) requires an engine that's flexible with its gravity. As gravity is completely engine based, that's probably not too hard (if designed for from the beginning).

The hard part, however, is level design in a free-gravity space. It's a lot more complex than it would first seem, and simply wouldn't make sense in this game.

In short: it's easy to design an engine that supports wall-running and such if all you're going to run around is an empty box. Trying to design levels that make sense both with and without said feature and is fair for all and is bug-free? Not easy at all. Especially in terms of the amount of content an MMO needs to stay viable.

why cant u use fire cages to shoot ice cubes out your butt, i think we should be able to go to our options and set if u would like to shoot ice cubes with fire cages pls reply soon this has been bugging me for a long time

In the comic books, when Speedsters ran up walls, they never stopped. If they did, they would just fall.

This game needs to take into account players would would do stupid thinks like stop half way up a building.

u all have very good points and i appreciate them all, accept for Postagulous comment. but i have been serching for other new online games and came across a game called dc online witch enables u to run up walls,but if u stand still, u will fall

Technically speaking wall running isn't terribly different than hill running if you plan for it from the start, but very difficult to implement after the fact. I think in this game the maximum angle we're able to run up is around 70 degrees, maybe more or less. When you hit a surface greater than that you'll notice your momentum wear off but you maintain whatever inertia you had when you hit it without gaining new traction. Wall running is essentially increasing the value to 90 degrees, but it has the added problem of requiring a hinge point to reverse the player's gravity. Realistically speaking, if you roll a golf ball up a curved ramp at sufficient speed it could clear an obstacle, but if you shoot it out of a cannon directly into a wall it will just smack into it.

There are some other significant challenges to wall running though. One of them is figuring out where to place the camera when a player is half a foot from the ground and facing upward. I am not sure how other games get around this challenge.

I have to say though that in the age of jet packs and Ninja Run Super Speed has such a lead on the other 3 travel powers that I consider them mostly costume fodder these days. Super Speed is the only travel power I'd consider on an optimized character.

considering all the improvements this game needs, not to mention new power sets, story arcs etc.....i guarantee running up the walls of a building...which provides basically no use other than to put a smile on a geek's face...is near the end of most people's "want" list.

it actually isn't on my list at all.

seriously, what would this accomplish?

nerd A: hey guys, watch this!

---nerd A runs up the side of a building---

nerd B: whoa, that was cool!

nerd C: ok guys, you've been taking turns running up buildings for like 15 mins now...you wanna do some missions?

Somewhat off topic, but long ago before all the jet packs and ninja run, I remember being in King's Row and jumping on the small window ledges so I could scale a building, hoping that there were CoT on top so that I could complete THAT MISSION.

And anyone who has done what I have done knows what mission THAT MISSION is.

You know, if all you want to do is run on the walls, we can Already do that!

Combat Jumping, or Ninja Running will allow you to climb along any non-vertical surface, Like the War Walls. Of course, you take damage when you fall off, eventually, as if you had fallen from the highest point you scaled to.

Then there's all of the bridge abutments and reinforcements on tall walls, which allow you to engage in 'CoH Parkour'. Heck, that's half the fun of being a lowbie - learning that you CAN get there from here, if you're clever enough to learn how. All of the Exploration Badges in Galaxy City can be gotten, using nothing more than Sprint and some clever piloting. All of the ones in Atlas Park, as well, except for the one on top of the globe and the one on the capital dome, although Bird Watcher is tricky. Kings Row is relatively Easy, except for the one on the Power Tower.

The reason why Wall Walking and Water Walking are not in this game is that it would require completely reprogramming every object in the game with data that is of no use to anyone - except the Super Speed, or 'Wall Walking' power user. Super Jumping, Teleportation, and Fly need not apply. So, it's a waste of resources.

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