Anniversary Badges


Ad Astra

 

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Hi all,

I'm wondering as we celebrate CoH's 6 year anniversary if there was some way for characters to purchase the other anniversary badges, either through influence, merits, tickets, etc.

As a 5.5 - 6 year veteran with many chars made more recently, it would be REALLY NICE if the other anniversary badges could be made available to us! (fingers crossed)


 

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I fully agree.
My newest character that I roll up tomorrow or the next day may not have been around during the last Anniversary, neither is that character a 6 Year veteran.
But they have the Vet badges because I, as a player, had an active account for that long.
I would certainly like it if my Anniversary badges were account-wide just like the Vet badges, since I definately logged in during every Anniversary, maintaining an active account at the time.

But you aren't asking for as much as I am. Just an option to earn these badges again.
I distinctly remember being able to purchase some badges (Longbow Reservist, Scrooge, etc.) for Candy Cane Salvage during the Winter Event, but a quick breeze through the Paragonwiki (Link in my sig) doesn't mention the Anniversary badges listed as those you can buy. (My memory is playing tricks on me or....?)

There's also the Payoff badge available for purchase for AE tickets, but is the only badge you can purchase this way. I mention this because either of these two options could be a reasonable route to getting these long ago badges


 

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A purchaseable anniversary badge? No thanks. Kind of kills the point of an anniversary badge. It'd be rather like being able to pay to have your name added to the list of "People who have climbed Mt. Everest," f'rinstance.

However, I've somewhat come around to the "Make them global" camp. I *personally* still like them per-character, and before anyone mentions alts I've got over 160 of them. But I can see the argument about the account and person being active for the real-life event and how it makes sense for them to be global.


 

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I would certainly like it if my Anniversary badges were account-wide just like the Vet badges, since I definately logged in during every Anniversary, maintaining an active account at the time.

But you aren't asking for as much as I am. Just an option to earn these badges again.
I distinctly remember being able to purchase some badges (Longbow Reservist, Scrooge, etc.) for Candy Cane Salvage during the Winter Event, but a quick breeze through the Paragonwiki (Link in my sig) doesn't mention the Anniversary badges listed as those you can buy.
I like the idea of global anniversary badges too. That would be even better.

But... my original thought was just be able to get missing anniversary badges for newer characters.

Does anyone else like the idea of being able to unlock/earn the missing anniversary badges for their newer characters?


 

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Just a quick clarification (because it wasn't explicitly stated in the OP as far as I could see) - to be able to earn or purchase the anniversary badges, you would still have had an active account on that particular anniversary, right?

So to get the First Anniversary badge, you would have had an active account on or about April 28, 2005, right? Not an inactive or lapsed account, or one started in say, June 2005?

If that's where you are going with this, then I'm more with BBQ on the topic - just make the badge global and therefore credited automatically to any character on the account, no matter when created. No need to earn or purchase anything.

OTOH, if the badge is available whether or not you had an active account, just because you have taken some other action besides having an account on the anniversary, then, no thanks. They become no longer *Anniversary* badges at that point.


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I'm still on the fence on this - but only in terms of "global versus individual". I'm against any purchase (ingame or out of game) for things like this that go for "I was here when".

I was here, so my vet badges are on all my characters. But... my character wasn't here for the anniversary ... which... yeah. I think I'm gonna start slipping over to the global-anniversary badges on this one, because by this time, some of my oldest toons aren't even really playable and I have SO FREAKING many of them.


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I think it'd be nice if they were made global. Partially because the aspect of a badge that is gone for good is a bit discouraging when making a new badger character... and partially because I just don't see what connection it has to the character itself. Yes, it signifies that your character was logged in when the game was celebrating it's xth anniversary... but that's really an out-of-game thing, isn't it? I don't think it says much about the character at all.


I'm completely against it being purchasable, though. You should at least have to have unlocked the badge in the first place to have it...


 

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For 3 years I played the same 2-3 toons... they have all the anniversary badges. More recently I have developed a severe case of altitis .. and sadly they will never get the 1,2,3,4, and 5 year badges

I would love if anniversary badges were globally linked.


 

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I will never support a "purchase" of anniversary badges. Either via in-game or out-of-game means.

I will ALWAYS support "global" anniversary badges. It's a real-life event (the game lore doesn't care about its launch date), so it should be awarded to the PLAYER (e.g. global), not the character.


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Global yes, purchase no.


 

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Originally Posted by Ad Astra View Post
Just a quick clarification (because it wasn't explicitly stated in the OP as far as I could see) - to be able to earn or purchase the anniversary badges, you would still have had an active account on that particular anniversary, right?

So to get the First Anniversary badge, you would have had an active account on or about April 28, 2005, right? Not an inactive or lapsed account, or one started in say, June 2005?
Actually, not quite. I had a buddy code for Valentines 2005. The account was active for 2 weeks in February. The Buddy Code was considered the full game. Now fast forward to May 2005... The memorial weekend had a Free Activation Weekend... Celebrant (first year anniversary badge) was awarded during the whole month of May... I didn't actually start subscribing until June 12th, 2005, yet I have Celebrant on 4 characters.

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OTOH, if the badge is available whether or not you had an active account, just because you have taken some other action besides having an account on the anniversary, then, no thanks. They become no longer *Anniversary* badges at that point.
You've lost. I didn't have a paid account for the Celebrant badge. Yes it was active due to NCsoft and Cryptic, but it wasn't a paid account at the time.




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Yes for Global. No for purchase.

*sigh* I swore I logged my Fire/Fire tanker in for year 4 or 5 anniversary badge, as she was my only one left with the year one anniversary badge (altitis and alot of deletions), only to find out later, I never did. :/

Now, I haven't even bothered to try to keep her up to date on badges, as I missed one on her.


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Global yes, purchase no.
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Yes for Global. No for purchase.
Me too... for the most part.

Actually to be totally honest I'm not strictly against the idea of some kind of reasonable "purchase" in principle. The main reason I "voted" no for it is that people have been whining for a way to get them ever since there were people who missed out on the first year badge. My guess is that after 5 consecutive years in a row of the Devs not changing this it seems all but certain it will NEVER happen at this point.

Basically I'm just tired of people wasting their time suggesting this when it seems totally clear to me that the Devs decided long ago that they'll never budge on this issue. There are probably better things to fight for than a lost cause like this. *shrugs*


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It was also thought at one time that we would never get to change the colors on our powers too. Granted it was for a different reason but still, just because the devs have not done something yet does not mean they will never do it.

I guess Im one of the few that would not mind being able to earn them through some sort of mission or arc that sends you back in time 1, 2, 3 years ect. Just as long as that mission or arc is only playable during May. We can still earn previous year badges for the winter event so I am not sure what the fuss is about.


 

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Actually, not quite. I had a buddy code for Valentines 2005. The account was active for 2 weeks in February. The Buddy Code was considered the full game. Now fast forward to May 2005... The memorial weekend had a Free Activation Weekend... Celebrant (first year anniversary badge) was awarded during the whole month of May... I didn't actually start subscribing until June 12th, 2005, yet I have Celebrant on 4 characters.


You've lost. I didn't have a paid account for the Celebrant badge. Yes it was active due to NCsoft and Cryptic, but it wasn't a paid account at the time.
Actually, Snow, I haven't "lost" anything here to my argument.

Your situation was an extremely unique set of circumstances that I'm sure rarely occurs - in fact, I would be very surprised to see that there are more than one or two other players who had that same exact set of circumstances happen to award them the first anniversary badge. And I also don't recall there being a similar possible set of circumstances that could have come up at any other set of dates after that first year.

And I still state that I do not support availability of Anniversary badges if the account was not active at the time the badge was awarded (which in your example was the entire month of May including the free arectivation weekend.) Note that I defined the period of time when the first badge was being awarded pretty loosely (on or about 4/28) because I knew the badge was actually awarded over a longer period than the one day, but could not recall how long it lasted.

Although you didn't pay to subscribe until June 12, you did take an action to be active during the period the badge was awarded (i.e., log on to those 4 characters during the reactivation weekend). Ergo, your account was active, not lapsed or inactive. I never said it had to be a PAID account.

Just as a matter of curiosity, because I've never been sure how it works exactly - on your account, what is the actually "account established" date? Is it February (Valentine's Day), Memorial Day (free reactivation in May) or June 12, 2005, the day you started to pay for it?


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I will never support a "purchase" of anniversary badges. Either via in-game or out-of-game means.

I will ALWAYS support "global" anniversary badges. It's a real-life event (the game lore doesn't care about its launch date), so it should be awarded to the PLAYER (e.g. global), not the character.

I agree with this sentiment.


 

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It was also thought at one time that we would never get to change the colors on our powers too. Granted it was for a different reason but still, just because the devs have not done something yet does not mean they will never do it.

I guess Im one of the few that would not mind being able to earn them through some sort of mission or arc that sends you back in time 1, 2, 3 years ect. Just as long as that mission or arc is only playable during May. We can still earn previous year badges for the winter event so I am not sure what the fuss is about.
It doesn't send you back in time of the life of the game. Just to prior level ranges. Unless you'd like to describe how you send a player back to 2004 to open up an account that didn't exist.

And as for the first? The "for a different reason" is the part you're wanting to wave away. We couldn't get power customization for so long ("Not doable") because, with the team stripped to 15 people, it was prohibitive in the time and manpower it would take. With a larger team and more money, it became doable. Anniversary badges, on the other hand, fall in right alongside "total respec of AT/primary/secondary" in why they wouldn't get done. Doable? Technically, sure. But the devs do not feel it's appropriate, or just plain don't want to.


 

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Just as a matter of curiosity, because I've never been sure how it works exactly - on your account, what is the actually "account established" date? Is it February (Valentine's Day), Memorial Day (free reactivation in May) or June 12, 2005, the day you started to pay for it?
Account created Feb 12, 2005. I was wrong it was June 10th, 2005 I started actively subscribing. With the recent changes to the NCsoft account display I was off a couple days.

Anyways, before the change, I had paid vet time from June 10, 2005 plus 2 weeks and the retail packs I added to my account. Now I'm only slightly ahead of that.

I could have sworn that there was a free activation for Issue 7 and that year the anniversary badge awarded May 1st to June 30th. Hmm. Oh well.




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Anniversary badges, on the other hand, fall in right alongside "total respec of AT/primary/secondary" in why they wouldn't get done. Doable? Technically, sure. But the devs do not feel it's appropriate, or just plain don't want to.
Anniversary badges, I've been reliably informed, are using some very old tech to award. This is probably why they can't award them during another global event. The new tech for the AE Badges isn't compatible it seems. To change the old badges apparently risks the database.

However, and if the developers read this they are welcome to use the idea, they could with existing tech retrofit the anniversary badges to award globally by doing the following:

Character logs in with an Anniversary badge. The current anniversary badge goes hidden (from display and badge count) with the X Times the Victor badge tech and awards new AE tech anniversary badge with same graphics.

I'm guessing that the people doing the badge system (Synapse and possibly others) don't have the time to look at how old badges award due to Issue 17 bugfixes and GR focus.




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Me too... for the most part.

Actually to be totally honest I'm not strictly against the idea of some kind of reasonable "purchase" in principle. The main reason I "voted" no for it is that people have been whining for a way to get them ever since there were people who missed out on the first year badge. My guess is that after 5 consecutive years in a row of the Devs not changing this it seems all but certain it will NEVER happen at this point.

Basically I'm just tired of people wasting their time suggesting this when it seems totally clear to me that the Devs decided long ago that they'll never budge on this issue. There are probably better things to fight for than a lost cause like this. *shrugs*
Well, I'll support the idea, but not going to be heartbroken if it doesn't happen. Won't even really fight for it.

But, it would be nice none the less.

If for nothing else, I dont want to log onto EVERY toon to get it


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I would like these to be global badges for sure. My badger was created about 1 month after the Celebrant badge was closed, and because of that there are 2 badges I cannot get. The other, of course, is the gladiator badge for the 5th Column soldier you get when you have the 1-year and 2-year anniversary badges.

Hell, I'd even be happy to pay for it for that one character, since my account was active almost a year before the 1st anniversary. I would only support purchases for accounts that were active at the appropriate time.


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It was also thought at one time that we would never get to change the colors on our powers too.
That was an assumption made by some players. The devs only said that we wouldn't be seeing it any time soon because it was a project that required more time and effort than they had available.

The doomies grabbed ahold of that and tried to twist it into "it'll never happen".

I also remember dozens of threads where people like Memphis Bill and others repeatedly tried to correct the doomies claims that the devs said Power Customization would never happen.


 

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It was also thought at one time that we would never get to change the colors on our powers too. Granted it was for a different reason but still, just because the devs have not done something yet does not mean they will never do it.

I guess Im one of the few that would not mind being able to earn them through some sort of missio or arc that sends you back in time 1, 2, 3 years ect. Just as long as that mission or arc is only playable during May. We can still earn previous year badges for the winter event so I am not sure what the fuss is about.
Well it's always possible the Devs might change their minds about the anniversary badges. *shrugs*

But remember there was a time when the old event badges (i.e. first year Winter event login badge) were not possible to get again until the Devs made it possible. When the Devs made it possible to get those old event badges they -still- did not allow the Anniversary badges to be reearned. Obviously the Devs consider these two different groups of badges differently.

They've had years to reassess their stand on the Anniversary badges. At least during those years the Devs always hinted that they'd "like" to eventually give us things like Power Customization and Crossovers which finally became a reality. On the other hand I have never once seen any hint whatsoever that they would ever give us a new way to get old Anniversary badges.

Let's just say the Anniversary badges -might- be reearnable someday, but I definitely wouldn't count on it.


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Yes for Global. No for purchase.

*sigh* I swore I logged my Fire/Fire tanker in for year 4 or 5 anniversary badge, as she was my only one left with the year one anniversary badge (altitis and alot of deletions), only to find out later, I never did. :/
THIS. I was not here for year 1. I've got no problem not having that one. Kind of stings not having the special pokemon for having both year 1 and 2 badges...but I got over that.

But I've been here ever since then. However, I just checked my main and somehow I missed year 4 - forgot to log her in, but I logged in one of my alts during that time and SHE has it.


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remember there was a time when the old event badges (i.e. first year Winter event login badge) were not possible to get again until the Devs made it possible. When the Devs made it possible to get those old event badges they -still- did not allow the Anniversary badges to be reearned. Obviously the Devs consider these two different groups of badges differently.
I really hope the Devs will reconsider their position, and give us either Global Anniversary Badges, or the ability to earn the older Anniversary Badges through missions, merits, or tickets...

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C'mon Devs, how about giving us one extra present this 6th Anniversary - the missing Anniversary Badges for our newer characters!
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