Nothing on set is an accident. All costumes and all props are carefully prepared long before the actors arrive. I am not familiar with this particular show, but if an actor is wearing a shirt (in any non reality show) with a logo on it, it came from the costume designer who got it approved by the producer first. It is not 'just whatever the actor wore that day'. The network probably got legal permission to do so from NCSoft ahead of time. Usually no money passes hands its more like:
Network: Hey were going to display some of your product. Can you sign this?
Creator: You won't show it in any negative context.
Network: No no.
Creator: Cool. Enjoy, here's my sig.
Network: Thanks.
Everything on set is done with almost military precision. Even the angle of product labels relative to the camera is monitored by the set designer.
I'm the one who sent Avatea a PM about this (might not be the only one, though). The "Captain Sweatpants" character is so named because he always wears the blue hero logo shirt and sweatpants. And the comic shop set on the show is full of NCSoft merch as background elements, not just CoH stuff.
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Hmm... I may need to start watching that show.
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Same here, I rarely visit the lower channels.
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Originally Posted by Sayer
Hmm... I may need to start watching that show.
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This is a horrendous injustice! The Hero and villain shirts don't come in any women's sizes?!|
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Good rule of thumb when dealing with game related clothing: Unless it comes from the company's own store, it's probably not official.
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I want my CoH/V Babydoll Tee! *cries*
-Rachel-
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Originally Posted by Fleeting Whisper
Yeah, I'm willing to bet the stuff on Big Bang Theory is paid product placement (or at least authorized use with a writer/producer who's a fan). BBT isn't going to be seeing any action from NCSoft legal.
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Even if it isn't. Unless they're trying to sell the shirts, NCSoft can't really go after them for it.
The most they can ask is that they not be shown. And if it's a hand-created FREEM shirt, they can't even do that.
Clicking on the linked image above will take you off the City of Heroes site. However, the guides will be linked back here.
I love his response to beign told he's stolen the design:
"This design was not inspired by NCSoft's City of Heroes. Any similarity is coincidental, and the designs are significantly different. I made no reference to City of Heroes when designing this shirt. My inspiration came from elsewhere."
Yeah, from a BBT character who is wearing the design you ripped off from NCSoft, you idiot. So his defense is "I didn't steal it from you I stole it from someone else," without knowing that someone-else was using the exact thing he's being accused of ripping off.
SO yeah, Come on NCSoft, this fellow really needs to be slapped down HARD.
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Yeah, "It's different, 'coz I said it's different..." That's worked out so well for Vanilla Ice and The Verve.|
Originally Posted by Redbone
I love his response to beign told he's stolen the design:
"This design was not inspired by NCSoft's City of Heroes. Any similarity is coincidental, and the designs are significantly different. I made no reference to City of Heroes when designing this shirt. My inspiration came from elsewhere." Yeah, from a BBT character who is wearing the design you ripped off from NCSoft, you idiot. So his defense is "I didn't steal it from you I stole it from someone else," without knowing that someone-else was using the exact thing he's being accused of ripping off. SO yeah, Come on NCSoft, this fellow really needs to be slapped down HARD. |
Honestly, I don't think Paragon Studios would go after them... money spent on lawsuits is money not spent on their core business. But NCSoft is a whole different jar of pickles.
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I am honestly surprised the stores still are up given that it's been a day or two since the rednames were shown the knockoffs. In my experience the typical response is to check it out and pretty much instantly report the violation via phone, e-mail and registered mail to the offending site and in cases like this, the offending site to vanish within hours. Apparently somewhere in the chain someone is moving slowly, likely NCSoft if they're bringing their legal guns around for one across the bow. Also given that this guy is illegally making money off a character owned by a television show, you might also see a second one across the bow from them, assuming someone also reports this to the fine folks making BBT.
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Yeah, "It's different, 'coz I said it's different..." That's worked out so well for Vanilla Ice and The Verve.
Honestly, I don't think Paragon Studios would go after them... money spent on lawsuits is money not spent on their core business. But NCSoft is a whole different jar of pickles. |
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Paragon Studios I'd imagine have done all they can for now ("Touching Base" with the shop owner, owner may need to prove his idea was first/genuinely original or not, Cease & Desist being served in person, whathaveyou...) NCSoft homebase in Korea, on the other hand, may take some time in their reaction, but most definetly would involve a lawsuit if they find the shopkeep to be liable.
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I am honestly surprised the stores still are up given that it's been a day or two since the rednames were shown the knockoffs. In my experience the typical response is to check it out and pretty much instantly report the violation via phone, e-mail and registered mail to the offending site and in cases like this, the offending site to vanish within hours. Apparently somewhere in the chain someone is moving slowly, likely NCSoft if they're bringing their legal guns around for one across the bow. Also given that this guy is illegally making money off a character owned by a television show, you might also see a second one across the bow from them, assuming someone also reports this to the fine folks making BBT.
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Again, just goign from my observations of similar things, first step is to contact the shopholder, then contact zazzle and cafepress. Zazzle and Cafepress react strongly and remove all offending items until they investigate as a method of covering their own posteriors since they coudl be included in any legal action (their statements to the contrary are basically them BSing their customers since they're the actual sales and production wing in the same way YouTube and Torrent sites can be held liable for their merely providing the space and bandwidth for copyright violations).|
Originally Posted by Tahquitz
Paragon Studios I'd imagine have done all they can for now ("Touching Base" with the shop owner, owner may need to prove his idea was first/genuinely original or not, Cease & Desist being served in person, whathaveyou...) NCSoft homebase in Korea, on the other hand, may take some time in their reaction, but most definetly would involve a lawsuit if they find the shopkeep to be liable.
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That's the crux of my surprise, Zazzle and CafePress are either not informed yet, dragging their feet (not likely given the legal trouble they could see and the possible blowback from OTHER IPs that are being infringed on by other sellers) or NC/Paragon hasn't done anything yet (which would somewhat surprise me unless they're prepping to drop their lawyers airborn-ranger-style out of a C-130 to legal paperwork everyone involved to the ground).
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It's a scientific fact that Women don't wear T-Shirts, and only wear thin Bikini tops and Pasties, especially when fighting crime.
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This is a horrendous injustice! The Hero and villain shirts don't come in any women's sizes?!
I want my CoH/V Babydoll Tee! *cries* -Rachel- |
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Eh, I'm a bit disappointed in those. The other games have some decent looking shirts, but ours aren't all that good. The blue in the CoH one is too light (and the star would look better rimmed in blue and red, like in the name of the window for the forums). I would also think the CoV one would look better in black, with the Arachnos logo in red, like it is in game.|
Originally Posted by Steampunkette
This is a horrendous injustice! The Hero and villain shirts don't come in any women's sizes?!
I want my CoH/V Babydoll Tee! *cries* -Rachel- |
I had been wanting to find a CoH shirt for awhile and finally realized they had them separately in the merchandise section (not sure why it doesn't pop up when you look for that game's stuff directly), but to my disappointment, these don't really pass muster. Too bad, too. I would have cajoled my wife into buying one at some point. She got me a "bacon is meat candy shirt" that I saw and liked. Hehe.
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Idk, isn't that the way all lawsuits are worded?!
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This is over the top mental slavery.
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Zazzle has apparently pulled the item. The link in the OP gives me a "Request Error" page from Zazzle.
Apparently CafePress has pulled the item as well. I get the Captain Sweatpants Inner Sanctum page, but no items are listed.
If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
Black Pebble is my new hero.
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Originally Posted by StarGeek
I'm pretty sure I saw a Freem shirt on Big Bang Theory awhile ago. Exactly the same as the one I bought from the NCSoft booth at SD Comic Con. Someone on that show is definitely a fan.
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CO has "FREEM!" as one of their "you better block, bad guy's about to use a big attack!" warning word bubble thingees.
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I was a bit disappointed when I found out the source of the word.
If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
Black Pebble is my new hero.
Dawg, Sound like Chris "Back Alley Brawler" was replying in character. I mean atleast thats sorta how Randy on American Idol speaks.
I've seen a lot of City Of Heroes stuff on BBT in total, and yes a lot of NCSoft stuff in the Comic Book store there, seems they have a huge fan there, most likely like someone said, the producer, or even more then one of the actors cause I remember seeing the Hero Clix CoH/CoV characters on the desk in the two guys apartment in one Episode. Think it was the one where the Rocket Scientist one (Sheldon) gets thrown in jail for a speeding ticket, not sure though.
I'd think that at least one of the Devs knows who the BBT fan is. I'd send them one of the Dev HeroCon '09 shirts. Those were too cool.
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