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Yeah, I'm definitely thikning Fire/Dark, as Dark always just seemed like the traditional "Hellfire" concept( It burns your SOuuuuuuuull)), never tried coloring dark sets "Firey" to see how it looked, though.|
Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
A whole new element thing? I doubt it. It'd play havoc with defences and all that.
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Yup with Some red and orange, Dark sets look like suitable hellfire to me.
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I don't want to copy Desdemona, so no Dark for me. I'm thinking pain or poison, but I am totally not sure yet. Earlier I was just certain I would do traps, but only if the demons blow up instantaneously.
Did no one notice the part where they said that the firewhip REDUCES THE TARGET'S RESISTANCE?!
That's incredible!
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Since the Whip is fire/toxic damage I have a feeling the Hellfire pets will do fire/toxic damage with thier attacks just a thought.
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I did notice on top of the fire/toxic dmg I'm sorry but I doubt I would be able to leave out the attacks on this MM.|
Originally Posted by Fenrisulfr
Did no one notice the part where they said that the firewhip REDUCES THE TARGET'S RESISTANCE?!
That's incredible! |
I was checking the vid and one of the demons seemed to be using Toxic attacks just like an earlier poster stated.
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Originally Posted by Fenrisulfr
Did no one notice the part where they said that the firewhip REDUCES THE TARGET'S RESISTANCE?!
That's oh so exploitable! |
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Likely it will be the same -res as sonic attacks, and have the same duration...so if you get them all going on an AV or tough Boss it might mean something, otherwise probably be a little lackluster.|
Originally Posted by Fenrisulfr
Did no one notice the part where they said that the firewhip REDUCES THE TARGET'S RESISTANCE?!
That's incredible! |
Whips also doing fire/toxic damage is nice, but the numbers might be lower than normal MM attacks to compensate for that. Since they also do -res its almost guaranteed they will do less than other MM attacks unless the dev's finally realized MM attacks are bad and this is the start of changing that.
Unless I am wrong on both accounts, I am thinking the attacks will still be highly skip-able from a power perspective. Since they look cool I expect lots of players will take them either way.
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srsly. Dual Pistols animation times, Demon Summoning, even the new set kinetic melee seems to take forever from the vid.
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Originally Posted by Silverado
What's with this new team of devs and their obsession with long animations?
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Looks like I'll be taking attacks on a mastermind for once.
Just looks amazing
I wish we could actually *play* it. I have a sneaking suspicion that the only reason I17 isn't in OB right now is because of problems with Ultra-Mode. I'm starting to really wish they had just left UM for GR, probably a minority opinion though 
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But they melee attacks. I think the damage will actually be more than other mm attacks because they force you to run into short/melee range.
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Originally Posted by AfroMagician
Likely it will be the same -res as sonic attacks, and have the same duration...so if you get them all going on an AV or tough Boss it might mean something, otherwise probably be a little lackluster.
Whips also doing fire/toxic damage is nice, but the numbers might be lower than normal MM attacks to compensate for that. Since they also do -res its almost guaranteed they will do less than other MM attacks unless the dev's finally realized MM attacks are bad and this is the start of changing that. Unless I am wrong on both accounts, I am thinking the attacks will still be highly skip-able from a power perspective. Since they look cool I expect lots of players will take them either way. |
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I suspect that the last one (Living Hellfire) is not a regular pet but is created by Hell on Earth
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Originally Posted by xhris
Am I the only one counting 7 pets??
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Originally Posted by Warkupo
Looks like I'll be taking attacks on a mastermind for once.
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MM attacks all generally suck. Nice to see some good ones.
The Rogue Islands is going to be awash with Demons mid April isn't it?
Maybe that's one drawback to this early release mechanism they're doing for GR, rather than teams being made up of say Demon MMs, Dual Pistol Corrupters, Elec Doms and wavy handy brutes in June/July we get massive gluts of each one released beforehand for a week or two and then they die down again.
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Yeah, because MMs usually stand from great distances, blasting their foes|
Originally Posted by _Klaw_
But they melee attacks. I think the damage will actually be more than other mm attacks because they force you to run into short/melee range.
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The now-defunct Petless Thugs(and maybe robots) mastermind did, and the soon to exist Demon summoning Petless mastermind will |
Originally Posted by xhris
Yeah, because MMs usually stand from great distances, blasting their foes
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I doubt it'll go petless. It'll want Bodyguard mode for sure.
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Originally Posted by Premonitions
The now-defunct Petless Thugs(and maybe robots) mastermind did, and the soon to exist Demon summoning Petless mastermind will
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I really can't imagine the segment of players that've been wanting a whip-based set, NOT making petless Demons summoning MMs, just like people did with thugs back in the day for the dual pistols, though they STILL might do that.
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I can. Ranged attacks tend to hit for less then melee ones. With whip attacks, you gotta get right in the face of that 400 damage meleer. You sure they wont take pets so they can put them in bodyguard mode and have really good damage reduction?|
Originally Posted by Premonitions
I really can't imagine the segment of players that've been wanting a whip-based set, NOT making petless Demons summoning MMs, just like people did with thugs back in the day for the dual pistols, though they STILL might do that.
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My point exactly. MMs already are a close-ranged/melee AT, so giving high-damaging melee attacks to demons seems unfair. And if that wasn't enough they deal fire/toxic damage and debuff res too. Oh, and they get their very own version of Gang War, which is so much worse than Serum, right?|
Originally Posted by Madam_Enigma
I can. Ranged attacks tend to hit for less then melee ones. With whip attacks, you gotta get right in the face of that 400 damage meleer. You sure they wont take pets so they can put them in bodyguard mode and have really good damage reduction?
EDIT: On a side note, I'm not too keen on the new forum setup. It's harder to tell what threads have new posts. |
Why can't the other MM primaries get worthy uniques? Even, Necro, which gets a semi-decent one, is actually a watered-down version of GW.
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I love Gang War. Sure, the damage it does to an EB may be negligible. What it does do is distract the EB while your thugs blow them away.
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Originally Posted by xhris
My point exactly. MMs already are a close-ranged/melee AT, so giving high-damaging melee attacks to demons seems unfair. And if that wasn't enough they deal fire/toxic damage and debuff res too. Oh, and they get their very own version of Gang War, which is so much worse than Serum, right?
Why can't the other MM primaries get worthy uniques? Even, Necro, which gets a semi-decent one, is actually a watered-down version of GW. |
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also, A Set where each tier1 pet is different? oh dang, now I'm interested.
My guess it a combination of two other types.