Going Rogue Effects On PvP

Not sure about this. Warburg, as it is, is not very popular, the free-for-all zone of the game has not been hot at all since 2006-2007, I believe.

i'd say WB isn't popular because of its level rather than because its a free-for-all zone.

This, the zone feels to in between for me.

Warburg on Freedom at least was decently popular before I13. I'd say it's more due to the level of the zone than it being free-for-all.

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Is this confirmed?

This was confirmed a long time ago by Castle. I don't have the links (tried to find it) but it was in one of the early Q&A's when they first announced going rogue.

Basically a "Rogue" will be able to buy insp only from the opposing faction.

You will not as a villain be able to buy/sell from wentworths or offer/accept trades from the opposing faction.

I am still amazed at how naive people are to think that they would allow this to happen. It would require the same programming they have been refusing to produce ever since the markets went live. They will never merge the Villain and Hero markets, its been said time and time again.

-Kiri

there's a huge difference between a stalker with perception buffs or running tactics instead of the secondary's +percep power...

a wp stalker that doesn't run tactics won't be able to see a widow with mark presence and a stealth io unless it's basically sitting next to it.

A Stalker that's sitting next to an enemy VEAT is a bad Stalker.* Also, if a WP Stalker takes Tactics, then that means it gave up either the Fitness, Concealement, Leaping, or Speed pools to get the Leadership pool. I doubt it would give up Stealth, or else it's a REALLY bad Stalker. Also doubt it's giving up Speed, as it's a necessity. So it'd probably give up Leaping or Fitness, making its mobility teh gimpzors or causing it to have poor end management. If I HAD to give up one, I'd probably give up Fitness just because a Stalker shouldn't be in prolonged fights anyway. But I would rather Fitness.

Point being, VEATS are going to be a big disruptor to Stalkers in zones. But I hope Commando doesn't listen to us so I can ruin him with my Bane and/or Fort once GR comes out.

*Unless that VEAT isn't at the perception cap. Which it should be after GR.

Giving up fitness on a willpower stalker isnt a big deal at all. There is enough end recov bonuses to comfortably run the ideal set up: Speed, leaping, leadership, concealment.

A correction to make here, and I don't have the post link handy but go search Positron's posts.

You're correct in that a "Rogue" cannot buy things on Wentworth's. However, continued play of the Going Rogue side-switching system will allow someone in a formerly redside AT to make the step from "Rogue" to full-out "Hero", at which point they will be just like any other character that was blueside in the first place - shops at Wentworth's, is locked out of the Rogue Isles.

In short, the alignment spectrum is blue -> light purple -> dark purple -> red, and as I understand it from Positron's posts, in playing side-switching you skip one of the purple stages - i.e. you either go blue->light purple->red or red->dark purple->blue. You can certainly stop at purple, though, and that has its own set of advantages and disadvantages.

Hero: Shops at Wentworth's. Can't enter the Rogue Isles. Can only team with other heroes (except in RWZ/Cimerora/Pocket D). Can only initiate hero story arcs/TFs.
Vigilante: Shops at Wentworth's. Can enter the Rogue Isles. Can team with anyone. Can only initiate hero story arcs/TFs, but can join teams doing villain story arcs/SFs, presumably.
Rogue: Shops at the Black Market. Can enter Paragon City. Can team with anyone. Can only initiate villain story arcs/SFs, but can join teams doing hero story arcs/TFs, presumably.
Villain: Shops at the Black Market. Can't enter Paragon City. Can only team with other villains (except in RWZ/Cimerora/Pocket D). Can only initiate villain story arcs/SFs.

The devs haven't said anything about how vigilantes/rogues will function in PvP zones yet. I suspect, however, that they'll continue to be treated as someone of their more pure faction (i.e., in RV, a vigilante will be treated the same as a hero)

Edit/addition: It would _have_ to work this way, because if a former villain goes all the way hero (not rogue, not vigilante, but hero) but was still required to buy on the Black Market, he would effectively be unable to buy from any market, because of being locked out of the Rogue Isles.

Double check your math.

But I PvP with VEATS, a lot more than with Stalkers. This is especially true before i14 :-) I love my NW. Now, what I was saying about VEATS being seen: As it is now, they have a major problem. They are more easily seen now than stalkers, and they do not hibernate+phase , then get out. They might phase but we know phase is not a safe anymore.

we will have to see... I definitely read from a red name that each side will be limited to Red or Blue side markets so you cant play the markets (buy up cheap lotg's and go red side to sell for a profit).. besides what is going to happen with influence/infamy when u change... it cant change from infamy to influence. I just dont see them doing the required programming to get this done.

Just my .02 inf,

Kiri

eh what they said is your inf clears when you switch sides all the way.
making a trip from hero to vill when your inf clears means that your profit is only good if there are market inequalities between io's which don't currently exist in a marked way. the only thing you're exploiting if you do that is price differences within the black market since in the end you can't bring the inf back to blue.

500 (base) + 100 (percep IO) + 346 (tactics) + 346 (TT:leader) = 1,292

veat cap = 1260.6...

*sigh*

This is a lot harder than expected.

This.

I asked War Witch this question at PAX M&G, basically you can have influence and infamy but can only earn and spend what's on your side. The other side "money" is suspended until if/when you go back.

whats stalker stealth cap again?

1143 feet at level 50

Excellent.

I heard someone in zones saying how fun it will be on a Stalker when GR hits. I think you guys are going to show him why he's wrong about that.

Assuming everyone and their dog doesn't go blue, killing zones altogether.