Going Rogue and inf


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According to this interview with war witch, it looks like we won't be taking our inf with us when we change sides. It's not completely spelled out, but seems pretty clear.

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if you just pick up and walk away from everything you’ve accomplished as a hero, there are consequences to your decisions. If you’ve made a name for yourself in the higher echelons of Paragon City, what makes you think you have any street cred in the Rogue Isles? You’ll have to establish yourself on the other side.


 

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I kind of expected this, but what would stop a level 50 PVP/Purple toon from transferring to the other side, respecing, and making a *ton* of profit from the other market?


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i don't know anyone who would switch sides with a totaly min/max toon and respec it for nothing.


 

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No but depending on the difficulty of switching it could be a valid business strategy. That being said considering that the devs still refuse to merge the makrets I'm not to surprised about stopping you from taking your inf with you. After all if merging the market would hurt villain imagine what having heros with a few billion inf transfer over would do [/sarcasm].


 

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I wouldnt worry too much about not taking or taking inf with you. Inf literally falls from the skys on most of my level 50s. If I have a purpled out build I want to cross over I would just make more inf. Otherwise email yourself whatever you need....

But really....

Merge the markets already


 

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Originally Posted by Supernumiphone View Post
According to this interview with war witch, it looks like we won't be taking our inf with us when we change sides. It's not completely spelled out, but seems pretty clear.
I don't see it as a big deal because surely you'll be able to carry recipes & enhancements. It'll just become standard procedure to take all your liquid wealth and invest it in pricey stuff before switching over. You'll take a hit switching from red to blue as stuff is generally cheaper blueside, but you'll still easily be able to carry enough unslotted items to go well above the inf cap if you so desire.


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Originally Posted by Frogfather View Post
Inf literally falls from the skys on most of my level 50s.
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No, inf figuratively falls from the sky for your level 50s.
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My head literally exploded when I read what you wrote.


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As noted above, anyone who wants to take a chunk of inf with them will turn it into valuable recipes and/or enhancements, hop the fence and then re-sell in their new home.

It isn't a real limitation, more of an annoyance.


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If I really want to do this (and I actually really don't want to fully switch sides with anything) I'll just give the inf/goods I don't want to loose to another character.

Really, though, this is stupid. Whether they want it to be or not, influence and infamy have always been currency. They need to get over this RP crap that it's your "cred". And I'm not saying RP is crap, I'm saying this particular contrivance is crap that's anchored in RP concepts.

Edit: Of course I'm making a worst-case assumption with the above. Carefully re-reading the article, they might not mean loss of inf. I'm setting my bar at "cynical" on this one though, and betting that's what it means.


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American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA

 

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they should merge the markets.


 

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... or at least let us have a way to exchange one for the other. I mean, heck, if you decided to leave the US and head for another country you don't just "lose" your wealth - you convert it.

I know, I know - comparing RL to RP. :P


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Originally Posted by damienray View Post
... or at least let us have a way to exchange one for the other. I mean, heck, if you decided to leave the US and head for another country you don't just "lose" your wealth - you convert it.

I know, I know - comparing RL to RP. :P
What would Fulmens do then? :P

It is a good idea. If they have a conversion rate, be a nice way to destroy a bit of the infl/infamy in the game.


 

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Originally Posted by Nethergoat View Post
It isn't a real limitation, more of an annoyance.
That's my main problem with it. That and the fact that market savvy people will be only be inconvenienced by it, while "casual" players will be the ones hit hard.


 

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Originally Posted by Supernumiphone View Post
That's my main problem with it. That and the fact that market savvy people will be only be inconvenienced by it, while "casual" players will be the ones hit hard.
Yeah this is actually what really irritates me about it. I can easily get around limitations either by converting my wealth to IOs or just paying Fulmens but more casual players don't have that option and they're the ones who really need it.


 

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Where possible you'd want to invest in IOs that have greater value on the side you're switching to. I wonder if there will be enough of that going on to stabilize prices between sides on certain IOs. My guess is no, but it will be interesting to see.

Offhand I don't know what would be best to use. Blue->Red maybe pet IOs. Red->Blue I don't know what has greater value on blue side than red.


 

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Originally Posted by Fulmens View Post
Or, y'know, I could do a lot of business at "10 gets you 9" rates.
I'll undercut Fulmens!


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Well. If you can't take inf with you, that would explain why they are now considering allowing us to email inf to our other alts.
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I really don't think they are going to let us take anything to the other side. They may have a new system that would create an alternate build that starts at level 1. What our current character has may be locked in so that it will be there if/when we return, but will not be accessible on the other side.


 

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Originally Posted by Tidbit View Post
I really don't think they are going to let us take anything to the other side. They may have a new system that would create an alternate build that starts at level 1. What our current character has may be locked in so that it will be there if/when we return, but will not be accessible on the other side.
That makes a lot of sense. If items could cross the faction barrier but inf could not, then... something. I'm not sure what, but that would definitely have some effect, probably of the unintended variety.

They have talked about letting inspirations be traded between factions. Those can be worth 100k each. I wonder if it would be feasible to buy a bunch of big break frees or something with a hero, hand them (or possibly email them) to a villain, and then sell them.


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Originally Posted by Tidbit View Post
I really don't think they are going to let us take anything to the other side. They may have a new system that would create an alternate build that starts at level 1. What our current character has may be locked in so that it will be there if/when we return, but will not be accessible on the other side.
I would never use that system. There's no ******* point.

If I want to start over at level 1, or with no "gear", I'll roll a new character.


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American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA

 

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Originally Posted by Tidbit View Post
I really don't think they are going to let us take anything to the other side. They may have a new system that would create an alternate build that starts at level 1. What our current character has may be locked in so that it will be there if/when we return, but will not be accessible on the other side.
Didn't one of the devs (Posi?) mention at HeroCon that you could be a sort of gun runner and transfer stuff across the Hero/Villain barrier for profit? I think I remember it from one of the youtube vids or podcasts.

Edit: Can't seem to find it now. Maybe I dreamt the whole thing, but I could have sworn I've heard it somewhere legitimate.


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They did say that according to info communicated by attendees. However, I have also heard that they backtracked on it. I have only heard that once, recently, and it was the first I heard of it. I found the notion depressing.


Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA