Hardcore "Permadeath" SG Recruiting

The Blade of Justice is recruiting again. I have recently taken over leadership and am looking for a few others who want a real challenge.

Background

BoJ is a collection of outsiders and vigilantes with a heroic bent. However, they operate outside of the law and are not formally registered with Paragon City's law enforcement structure. They are a known group but run completely under the radar.

Mission

BoJ exists to provide a challenge to longtime CoH players who are looking for a challenge in their PvE gameplay and who wish to get back to the basics of the game - teamwork and storyline. To that end, rules have been created to create a framework encouraging mutual dependence and interconnectivity.

Guidelines

• All character ATs and backgrounds are allowed. Each player should have a reasonable backstory explaining why his character is operating as a vigilante. Upon the release of "Going Rogue," the SG will likely allow villain AT members.
• Members can only team with other SG members.
• Members cannot solo after level 1 and must join the SG by level 2. More experienced characters cannot become members. They must start, survive, and grow within the SG.
• Members defeated in combat must be deleted (i.e., "permadeath") unless they can be resurrected by the use of a self-rez power (e.g. Rise of the Phoenix) or by another teammate using a rez-other power (e.g., Resurrect, Resuscitate, Howling Twilight, etc.). Awaken inspirations cannot be used and must be deleted when acquired. Members may not use the hospital and no base medical bay will be built. Temporary self-rez powers from events or other rewards may never be used.
• Members may not use any booster pack powers, veteran rewards powers, or vet reward respecs of any kind. Only powers (including story arc temporary powers) and respecs earned in regular gameplay may be used. Tailor tokens and costume-related veteran rewards may be used.
• Members can buy salvage and costume recipes at Wentworth's. No other transactions of any kind are allowed at Wentworth's.
• Members can buy or sell any item at a store or university, including enhancements, inspirations, and generic IO recipes. Members may get a free IO from the University tutorial.
• Because the SG has no access to outside IOs and Recipes (other than drops and those earned with reward merits), Members are encouraged to craft all IO recipes in their possession and place all unusable IOs in base storage for use by other members.
• Members must run in SG mode till lvl 25.
• Members may never participate in police radio/scanner missions, bank safeguard missions, or enter any PvP zone as these areas are all controlled by police and/or Longbow operatives. Furthermore, for story continuity purposes, AE missions and Ouroboros (both the zone itself and missions obtained there) may not be entered by Members.
• Members are encouraged to run contact missions, story arcs, and task forces. Due to the inability to acquire recipes from Wentworth's, reward merits will be critical in acquiring key IO recipes.
• Because the SG is barred from using Paragon City's teleportation system, the base may only be entered at Steel Canyon, the location of BoJ's secret headquarters. Note that members may have personal teleportation powers for travel and transporting teammates and enemies, but this does not give them access to the "grid."
• Upon the death of the Leader, Leadership shall pass to the next highest level surviving member. In the event of a tie, the member with the most prestige shall appointed Leader as the final act of the deceased Leader prior to deletion.
• SG members may freely trade any commodity amongst themselves. SG members may not trade with any non-members whatsoever, including non-member alts controlled by the same player.
• SG members may participate in costume contests and other non-SG social functions but never accept any influence or commodity of any kind as reward or gift. Similarly, members must reject (if given the option) the application of a buff power upon themselves by a non-member.
• Each player may have multiple alts in the SG, at his or her option.
• While survival is the main goal, members are encouraged to "push the envelope" in terms of mission difficulty, either by adjusting the number & level of enemies or by (e.g.) disallowing the use of inspirations during Task Forces.
• Members should be mature, familiar with the game, and able to get along with others. Roleplaying (either verbal or typed) is welcome but not required.

• Time limits on how long a toon can stay down without being resurected, before they are considered dead for good?
• Possible "undead" status with no XP earned, if that player wants to continue to play with the the toon and have no progression in levels?
• Possible resurection of an undead player toon, by successful completion of a Master TF run?

Yeah...mmm...no.

How's the recruiting going on that ? Have to say that is pretty HARDCORE . How many toons do you have so far ?

I've never done this myself, but I saw quite a few groups like this back on my home server. I thought the concept was dope, having played Diablo II.

@Vince

A SG mate of mine got a level 50 TA/Archery Defender PuG'ing all the way to 50 without dying once. After he accomplished that feat, my desire to make a hardcore permadeath character completely disappeared. Largely because I don't think I could equal it.

Good luck with your SG.

Just so we can end this argument once and for all. I just happened to catch my SG mate and he went ahead and logged on to his laptop to take the following pictures. The first two pictures are of Shaftist badge list. Note: no icons for the debt badges. I realize that if you take debt, there's usually a progress bar on that. Well, he didn't know where it would show up (since he doesn't have the progress bar) so he took the badge list instead.

Debt badge icon:




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Now I'm sure the accusation will come that he obviously must have been PL'ed. At this point, I let you make up your own minds about that.

Personally I wouldn't make a judgment like that but I think saying it's impossible without PLing is pretty dumb... hard, improbable? Sure. But anything is possible.

Now I'm considering making a toon just to see how far I can solo without dying.

No debt badges, lots of AE badges.

Yeah, I'd say PLed.

AE badges are mostly global. You earn them on all characters no matter what.

I just find it odd that the rules of the Permadeath group are so restrictive with respect to Wentworths and Safegaurds and what-not, yet you can be resurrected by a teammate if you die. That seems like the one no-brainer off-limits restriction to me.

As for the success of the group, I think it is like other people have said in different words - people think it'll be a cool challenge at first, but when they realize what a PITA it is to play by all those rules, they stop bothering with it.

That said, good luck with your recruiting drive. It's certainly not the way I would prefer to play the game, but hopefully you'll find some other like-minded individuals to join you.

Yes, most of those AE badges are global. The others came after I hit 50 when I wanted to play the character but not worry as much about him dying (since then I could rationalize that it happened in a 'holodeck', not out on patrol). I got to 50 playing on PuGs with the first people to ask me; if no one was asking, I grabbed anyone who was lft.

I started the character to see how far I could take it without dying, after Fury had attempted a similar project. I had a couple very close calls, including a DoT that took me down to 2 health with me out of inspirations and no healing available. It was a fun project, more intense than normal.

You can doubt, deny, or denigrate it all you want, but I did it w/o farming, PL, etc. Didn't even team with folks I know for the most part, just to make it more chaotic. It's a great combo, with tons of debuffs and tools for surviving.

I agree , play the game the way you want . Cool concept , but no desire on my part to do it now , but who knows down the road .............

Hey...not my cuppa tea,but I wish you the bes tof luck with the recruiting drive, dude!

Out of curiosity...why are wakies banned when you allow self-rezzes and outside rezzes from other characters?

I can't believe there are people who think it's impossible and that Prole is lying. Did you somehow not notice that he has 66 months worth of veteran rewards? Is it hard to understand that after playing for that long, you actually acquire strategy and skill at this game? Just because you may suck as a player and can't accomplish that doesn't mean that no one can.

I don't understand why anyone would give this guy a hard time. He likes a challenge and wants to find like minded people to play with... yet people feel the need to shout him down.

If I had more time to devote to CoH I would try it just for the challenge and experience. So to the detractors I say, 'Give the guy a break. He wants to find people to play with just like the rest of us.'