War Witch the New Lead, Content is King for 2010
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Arcanaville,
Posted on: 2010-01-21 22:48 in Victory
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Ironically enough, the idea that "content is the focus" after GR is what initially sent me into a doom spiral. It implies that there isn't much content in GR, and that it's really about the side-switching and setting up a new City that will one day have content in it...|
Originally Posted by Grey Pilgrim
MG, I made a joke. And used a smilie. That's what GG does all the time, so that post should have worked.
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Right now, the Devs should listen to Perfect Pain and release some information. For all we know the GR closed Beta has already started.
Agua Man lvl 48 Water/Electric Blaster
"To die hating NCSoft for shutting down City of Heroes, that was Freedom."
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Must...not...negative...rep...
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Originally Posted by Mental_Giant
...the Devs should listen to Perfect Pain...
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<snickers>
1. GR is not in beta...yet. I know this because PRE-Order has not happened yet.
2. Any neg rep received on this forum That I am aware of will be promptly washed away with positive rep from me. (go ahead and try your rep cons gray to me) although funny Zam.
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I wasn't clear. I didn't mean regular Closed Beta that lots of people will have access to because of Loyalty Incentives and whatnot, I made Super Secret Friends & Family Beta. I hope that that at least has started by now.
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Originally Posted by Scootertwo
1. GR is not in beta...yet. I know this because PRE-Order has not happened yet.
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Agua Man lvl 48 Water/Electric Blaster
"To die hating NCSoft for shutting down City of Heroes, that was Freedom."
Coming from a Development course that's called the alpha phase of testing.
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I think the Alpha is just the Devs messing around with it on the internal server. No family or friends.
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Originally Posted by Scootertwo
Coming from a Development course that's called the alpha phase of testing.
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Agua Man lvl 48 Water/Electric Blaster
"To die hating NCSoft for shutting down City of Heroes, that was Freedom."
Mmmh. I loves me some speculation based on very little information.
I will make one assumption, based on past performance.
GR will contain content for a full run from level 1 to 40...
Just as CoH and CoV did when they were first released.
However, this all may be moot.
The extension of free server xfers has me worried for a couple of reasons.
1. The "Hey look! A shiny!" tactic the Devs have used repeatedly when things aren't going well and they are attempting to focus the player base attention elsewhere. Are things not going well in GR land and it may be delayed? Is GR suffering a bit from scope creep? Look at how anemic the last couple issues have been. Have the Devs been trying to shoehorn too much into GR to try to "Hit the ball out of the park"? Sadly, if there is noone left in the stands, did the home run actually happen?...
2. Is this a precursor to server consolidation? I don't know that this would happen before GR drops (assuming it doesn't end up being vapor-ware), but I'm sure migration patterns are being recorded. Unfortunately, from what I can tell, Victory is hemorrhaging people. Lack of any substantial new content, newer games, and a general 5.75 year old game malaise have all contributed to this issue.
Now please feel free to pick apart anything I've written...
Better to reign in hell than serve in heaven.
Say it with me MG....
DHOOOOM!
You people make me sad.
/e emo
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Frankly, they should have done server merging years ago. Just before superbases.
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Originally Posted by _Flux_
2. Is this a precursor to server consolidation? I don't know that this would happen before GR drops (assuming it doesn't end up being vapor-ware), but I'm sure migration patterns are being recorded. Unfortunately, from what I can tell, Victory is hemorrhaging people. Lack of any substantial new content, newer games, and a general 5.75 year old game malaise have all contributed to this issue.
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Rock, rock on Hamster.
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By "people" you mean "everyone but good ol' MG", right? |
Originally Posted by Vivace
You people make me sad.
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Agua Man lvl 48 Water/Electric Blaster
"To die hating NCSoft for shutting down City of Heroes, that was Freedom."
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I would never have pegged you for a consolidationist, Ham.|
Originally Posted by Satanic_Hamster
Frankly, they should have done server merging years ago. Just before superbases.
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How many servers is the right number, and how do we deal with name conflicts in the case of a merge?
Agua Man lvl 48 Water/Electric Blaster
"To die hating NCSoft for shutting down City of Heroes, that was Freedom."
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This was my operating assumption since GR was announced. Recently, I have begun to question this assumption. I hope you (and my naive, earlier self) are right.
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Originally Posted by _Flux_
Mmmh. I loves me some speculation based on very little information.
I will make one assumption, based on past performance. GR will contain content for a full run from level 1 to 40... Just as CoH and CoV did when they were first released. |
Agua Man lvl 48 Water/Electric Blaster
"To die hating NCSoft for shutting down City of Heroes, that was Freedom."
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Sadness make you angry and anger makes you want to PvP! |
Originally Posted by Vivace
You people make me sad.
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When in doubt, look to Voodoo to make all the hard decisions for you.
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Originally Posted by Mental_Giant
I would never have pegged you for a consolidationist, Ham.
How many servers is the right number, and how do we deal with name conflicts in the case of a merge? |
I've already forgotten about most of you
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You too! |
Originally Posted by Mental_Giant
By "people" you mean "everyone but good ol' MG", right?
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Originally Posted by Zamuel
Sadness make you angry and anger makes you want to PvP!
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Originally Posted by Zamuel
Sadness make you angry and anger makes you want to PvP!
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And PVP leads to suffering.
Suffering leads to hunger
hunger leads to cheese fries
cheese fries lead to cake
And Cake is the path to the Dark Side...
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Being compared to an earlier, naive MG makes me sad.|
Originally Posted by Mental_Giant
This was my operating assumption since GR was announced. Recently, I have begun to question this assumption. I hope you (and my naive, earlier self) are right.
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As opposed to "you people".
Better to reign in hell than serve in heaven.
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Originally Posted by Satanic_Hamster
Frankly, they should have done server merging years ago. Just before superbases.
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Eh, that may have been a bit early.
I think making CoV an entirely separate game connected only by the PvP zones was a mistake.
Initially, it didn't seem that way, but after 4-5 months and i7 still nowhere on the horizon, it clearly was an issue.
The devs took 11 servers and for all intents doubled them without a corresponding increase in the playerbase.
Better to reign in hell than serve in heaven.
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Surely at least one of the devs has family.
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Originally Posted by Mental_Giant
I think the Alpha is just the Devs messing around with it on the internal server. No family or friends.
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I dunno.....I wouldn't be surprised considering how they treat us! |
Originally Posted by d00000000d
Surely at least one of the devs has family.
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I mean, we pay for this game! For their lively hood! And they treat us like this?!!?!? I can see them having no friends. And probably eating their own family. They are mean and stupid and evil!
I've already forgotten about most of you
Total numbers of active players during peek times needs to be high enough for people to, well, team/play the game.
CoV was and always has been a mistake on the devs part. They keep trying to fix this mistake, GR being the most recent example.
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Rock, rock on Hamster.
as much as it pains my soul to admit this...
ShamWOW!! maybe on to something with that.
Honestly, I refuse to consider CoV a mistake. Conceptually, anyway.
Execution-wise, well, there have been many debates on that in the last 4+ years.
Personally, a lot of my growing dissatisfaction is the glacial pace of the updates.
I16 dropped in mid-September. I don't see I17 waiting in the wings. Particularly with the spring event absorbing 3 weeks of Feb.
That puts any possible issue update out until mid March at the earliest.
How many remember when NC bought the IP and said, "We're investing in COX. More updates, faster."?
Before anyone gets jumpy..
Now, I'm not saying they haven't invested in the game.
And for a while they held to the updates statement.
They did give the players a lot of the asked for changes/improvements.
However, anyone remember the time frame between I6 (CoV) and I7?
Somewhere on the order of 8 months.
*If* issue 17 were to drop in mid March, that would be a 6 month span.
I really don't want to hear that, "Oh, they're focusing all their energy/time on GR." comment.
Most people in industry have multiple projects to work on at any given time.
Assuming everyone in the game is going to purchase GR is foolish.
A lot of people didn't purchase CoV.
So ignoring part of your playerbase is probably not a wise business decision.
/rant
Grr. Didn't mean to end up ranting.
Sorry folks.
*kicks soapbox off to the side*
Better to reign in hell than serve in heaven.
MG, I made a joke. And used a smilie. That's what GG does all the time, so that post should have worked.
I guess I'm not female... is that all it takes?
Not sure why you want to be so doom-happy. *sighs* I'll just keep on looking forward to what's coming this year... have fun in your little corner over there.
(And I am seriously amused, bemused, and a little saddened by all this, yeesh).
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