The Syndrome Syndrome


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I know I'm not the only one who feels that all the "Special Events" have become less... special.

After whomping on Winter Lords for a month, people are tired of them. Presents? Just lying around in the gutters, being ignored.

Anyone remember the Halloween fatigue that set in last Thanksgiving?

And now here come the Rikti, Aaaaa-gain...

(How long will it be 'til Valentine's Day gets here? Get ready to break out those togas...)

I'm calling this the Sydrome Syndrome, named for Syndrome, from the Incredibles:

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And when I'm old and I've had my fun, I'll sell my inventions so that *everyone* can have powers. *Everyone* can be super! And when everyone's super--
[chuckles evilly]
--no one will be.
Here in CoX, it goes like this:
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When there's a special event every day-- [Positron chuckles evilly]
-- no event's special.
OK, I'm putting words and evil chuckles into Posi's mouth that didn't originate there, but that's the burden of being lead dog in the team. I actually pity the poor dev whose job it is to juggle all the different events on the calendar these days.

Something I'd like the powers-that-be to consider: If you want your events to be special, then dammit, don't drag them out for so long and/or don't repeat them so often. You're slowly painting yourselves into a corner where 'normal play' becomes the special event.

Alternatively, if you feel pressure to be fair to new players and make events more readily available, then slap them into Oroboros somehow. Surely the Menders can focus their time travel abilities onto a particular holiday where things were going berserk, yes?

That way, anyone who wants a particular badge or goodie can fire up an instanced event and grab it, *and* the calendar is cleared for new game-wide events to be designed and implemented.

I dunno, maybe that's not possible or desirable from the dev point of view.

But I do think there can be too much of a good thing, and the good things are starting to wear out their welcome.


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The Winter events was extended beyond their planned schedule as 'compensation' to servers that had major stability issues during the event.

Then earlier in the year we had a 'repeat' double Xp weekend for pretty much the same issue (but different servers affected)

I would hope that 3 weeks (the planned duration) at a time of year when people are frequently traveling wouldn't be considered too much.

Judging from this timeline. Halloween = 2weeks normally, Winter event 3 weeks, Valentines 2 weeks. These are however all clustered Oct-Feb.

45 weeks of 'normality'

Throw in a couple of invasion weekends, and double XP weekends, and drop that to 41 weeks if you like.



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Good god, the banner event did go on for way too long. Most people who gave a damn about the badges had them all before the first week was over. The winter event was similar, by the 3rd week it was getting very difficult to get anyone interested in Baby New Year and getting more than one team together for a Winter Lord was pretty much futile by the final week. Even on the more crowded servers.


 

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I'm still disappointed they haven't added an event for National Pretzel Day.


 

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Special event periods increase the number of people playing the game in that time period. You put them into Ouroborous and you've just made them even more banal - available any time, anywhere. They aren't special at all if they available every day of the year.

Also, not everyone gets to play at the same time, so shortening the period for these events means that fewer people get to play them.

As for "special event becoming normal play", we've just left a period of time where Halloween and Christmas Events were nearly back-to-back. You can play normal play from now until Halloween again. Valentines Day doesn't impact on normal zones (unless it has changed for this year).


 

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I hope they change some of it for next time - I thought the way that you lost 3 levels for refusing to click Lord Winter's present was a bit too harsh.


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i do think the holiday events need to be changed more than they have. the raid type events are annoying as anything. i would welcome the idea of more instanced mishs (or changing the mish as in the winter event or valentine event).

but overall the holiday events have become rather dull after 3 years of nearly the same thing (as in my experience).


 

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I hate to say that I agree with the OP. When I see a new holiday event coming, I don't get excited anymore. Heck, I don't even log on half the time.

How about instead of the holiday events being "bigger" and "bigger" every year (which just makes more work for the devs), how about we just have them less and less. They only last for one week, and that's even every OTHER year. Like you'll have Valentine's and Halloween one year and Winter and something else (a summer sandstorm filled with desert monsters?) the other year?

Make them shorter, and you make them more special. Sure some people will get in a tizzy, but those people get upset about every little thing, so frag them.


 

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or, have the events ramp up. Don't have everything from day one. If you intend a 3 week Winter event, have items that appear in Week 1, items for week 2, and of course, items for week 3. That way interest is maintained for those that play all three weeks, and there's still a week 3 with everything for those who've been traveling.


 

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Originally Posted by Westley View Post
I hate to say that I agree with the OP. When I see a new holiday event coming, I don't get excited anymore. Heck, I don't even log on half the time.

How about instead of the holiday events being "bigger" and "bigger" every year (which just makes more work for the devs), how about we just have them less and less. They only last for one week, and that's even every OTHER year. Like you'll have Valentine's and Halloween one year and Winter and something else (a summer sandstorm filled with desert monsters?) the other year?

Make them shorter, and you make them more special. Sure some people will get in a tizzy, but those people get upset about every little thing, so frag them.
while it is true the "bigger isnt always better", they have them for the length of time so everyone can participate. what they need to do is something completely new, like redo the whole event so its not the same every year.


 

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I think the problem is that you have Halloween for 3 weeks, about 4 weeks of normal play, the Winter Event for 2-4 weeks, about 4 weeks of normal play, then the Valentine's event for a couple weeks, then... nothing until Halloween again.

I'm for a new event of two. Double XP weekends are all well and good, but I would like to see something a little more creative. April could have an Rabbit-related mission. Maybe some sort of "Save Uncle Sam" mission in July. Something like this could spice up the event-less time between February and November.


 

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i do understand about casual players and stuff, i dont think they should scrap the current events, just create something different and alternate between the old event and the new event each year.


 

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Originally Posted by Mike_Ray View Post
I think the problem is that you have Halloween for 3 weeks, about 4 weeks of normal play, the Winter Event for 2-4 weeks, about 4 weeks of normal play, then the Valentine's event for a couple weeks, then... nothing until Halloween again.
I think this is basically it. It's not that we have 40 weeks of events or something, as Catwhoorg showed above. The events that we do have are just all clustered in three months, so it's easy to get burnt out on them.

Holidays aren't polite enough to be evenly spaced through the year for our convenience.


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Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master View Post
i do understand about casual players and stuff, i dont think they should scrap the current events, just create something different and alternate between the old event and the new event each year.
You are *seriously* underestimating the amount of work and time it takes to whip up new content, especially content that's only played for 3 weeks a year.

The Devs have been very good about adding something new to each event so there is indeed new content for the hardcore gamers, but it's naive to think they can deliver enough new content to keep daily players busy for three weeks experiencing new stuff every day. Hardcore gamers are always blowing through new content immediately and coming back asking for more.



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I think this is basically it. It's not that we have 40 weeks of events or something, as Catwhoorg showed above. The events that we do have are just all clustered in three months, so it's easy to get burnt out on them.

Holidays aren't polite enough to be evenly spaced through the year for our convenience.
Next year: Southern Hemisphere Winter Event in July!


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While I *did* agree that sometimes they go on alittle too long,I can't say that any longer I don't get to play everyday like I used to.

If I'm lucky me and the wife can only get on once a week and not very long at that.This past winter event I only got to get on three times and at the most for only a couple hours.

So I can see the pro's and con's of the events now.Just remember folks not everyone can play all the time or anytime they want.


 

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Do not assume, that just because you are tired of the events, that *people* in general also feel the same.

I personally love this years winter event, they actually made something new by adding the winter realm instance. And it's a lot of fun, and a great way to earn a load of candy canes with some very easy and fast merits to boot.

I'm also glad they extended it -- as I was away on holidays for most of the event, and had grumbled that I was going to miss out on most of it. I finally got back from holidays, and its still on! So I had a blast catching the end of the event and joining in the fun.

I've done several winter lord and winter realm teams in the last couple of days, was very easy to get teams for it. And I'm a glowie addict -- have been madly clicking glowies inbetween doing missions and other content.

Whilst you might be bored with the events, like someone else said, new players want to have a go at it too, so they need just as much as a chance as the vets. And then some of us, who are altaholics, like to roll our new alts and get them into the event fun as well (for various reasons).

Don't get me wrong -- new content is always welcome.
But I feel you are being rather harsh on the winter event, when they actually added something NEW content wise to this years.


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Originally Posted by Casual_Player View Post
OK, I'm putting words and evil chuckles into Posi's mouth that didn't originate there
OMG Casual_Player is really Jeff Dunham!!

Ok, seriously, I think that given the server issues and the extensions on the events, Yeah some of the players are way over it. However, I ran into someone last night, in the Ski Chalet, who was still trying to finish up a few alts before the end.

In my experience, you better have the event done, badges earned, items unlocked, and your fun over with by the end of the first weekend of any event. Generally I see that after the first full weekend, most people are done with it and couldn't be dragged back to do it if you promised them a date with a real human and $10,000 for computer upgrades. This is especially true for the event parts that require Zone Participation of more than 1 full team.

So...the holidays were extended a bit. Meh! It gave some people the chance to participate that otherwise would have been shunted to the sidelines.


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