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Exactly. The female equivalent, to me, is the personality quotient I mentioned over on the other thread. Hughes does that better than anyone, and it gives his women that all-important lifelike quality. |
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Which should be equally important for the female characters, right?
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A lot of pro comic artists are actually pretty bad at this. Taking any random comic off the shelves, you tend to see a lot of flat expressions and repeated paste-on faces.
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That is so true.|
Originally Posted by David Nakayama
Exactly. The female equivalent, to me, is the personality quotient I mentioned over on the other thread. Hughes does that better than anyone, and it gives his women that all-important lifelike quality.
A lot of pro comic artists are actually pretty bad at this. Taking any random comic off the shelves, you tend to see a lot of flat expressions and repeated paste-on faces. |
And I've found that while many of the artists I've seen scouring the web, while their women are well drawn (although they tend to focus on T&A), their male forms sux.
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This is one of the main things that has stopped me from commissioning any art of TJ. I can find plenty of artists that could do a pleasing job on Eyes of Texas, especially in her Hami raid outfit, but when I do find an artist with examples of male characters, they aren't in a style I like or they are the overly muscled depictions of characters. TJ just doesn't have the overly muscled physique, so I'm still searching for something I'll be satisfied with.
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Originally Posted by Red Valkyrja
That is so true.
And I've found that while many of the artists I've seen scouring the web, while their women are well drawn (although they tend to focus on T&A), their male forms sux. |
If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
Black Pebble is my new hero.
I love Jim Lee. He has always been my favorite, but my other top three are....
Whilce Portacio
http://www.comicartcommunity.com/gal...php?cat_id=352
Chris Claremont
http://www.chrisclaremont.com/
Joe Maduriera
http://www.comicartcommunity.com/gal...php?cat_id=124
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No, female characters need good tits and tight bods.|
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Which should be equally important for the female characters, right?
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It's like you don't know anything about art at all.
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Let's see pics of TJ!
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Originally Posted by Texas Justice
This is one of the main things that has stopped me from commissioning any art of TJ. I can find plenty of artists that could do a pleasing job on Eyes of Texas, especially in her Hami raid outfit, but when I do find an artist with examples of male characters, they aren't in a style I like or they are the overly muscled depictions of characters. TJ just doesn't have the overly muscled physique, so I'm still searching for something I'll be satisfied with.
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Um. What is Chris Claremont doing in a group of artists? Writing their dialog?|
Originally Posted by JDub
I love Jim Lee. He has always been my favorite, but my other top three are....
Whilce Portacio http://www.comicartcommunity.com/gal...php?cat_id=352 Chris Claremont http://www.chrisclaremont.com/ Joe Maduriera http://www.comicartcommunity.com/gal...php?cat_id=124 |
Seriously, while Chris had a long stint writing X-Men and was involved in the creation of several memorable characters, he's not an artist. He's a writer.
If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
Black Pebble is my new hero.
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Once I find an artist I'm willing to commision for a piece, reference pics will be available to them. I may include a link to those pics when I post the finished art on the forums.
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Originally Posted by The_Foo
Let's see pics of TJ!
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If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
Black Pebble is my new hero.
Ok, that's a bit unusual.
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Pssssst...I think Foo wanted to see what he could do. He's good. |
Originally Posted by Texas Justice
Once I find an artist I'm willing to commision for a piece, reference pics will be available to them. I may include a link to those pics when I post the finished art on the forums.
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I was just interested to see what was meant by not having an overly-muscled physique.
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Yessir, Mr. Foo, sir. |
Originally Posted by The_Foo
I was just interested to see what was meant by not having an overly-muscled physique.
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Overly muscled:
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Not that kind of "art", no |
Originally Posted by The_Foo
No, female characters need good tits and tight bods.
It's like you don't know anything about art at all. |
@Golden Girl
City of Heroes comics and artwork
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Can we just tone down the screaming Foo! He doesn't want you to draw him. He doesn't want any of your overly muscled attempts at his frail almost lamb like exterior... (it puts the lotion on it's skin, or it gets the hose again...) So quit badgering him, stop your free art offers, and your screen shot begging, it's so unbecoming. When he's ready, and he picks you, you will be permitted to see him, and only then. No overly muscled dreams for you, TJ will have to wait.
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Originally Posted by The_Foo
Ok, that's a bit unusual.
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That actually works pretty well for my purposes in illustrating what I meant. Especially when you see the reference shot the artist was given to work from.|
Originally Posted by Vivace
Yessir, Mr. Foo, sir.
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This is what I see too often when I'm looking at artwork of male superheroes, unless it's in a Bruce Timm style or something more anime based. Using the bottom photo as a reference and coming out with an artistic interpretation like that in the quoted post.
My not posting screenshots isn't that I don't want any of the talented artists here to see them and decide to try their hand at TJ. Mostly it's due to not having decent screenshots of TJ that would give decent reference shots. I'm either zoomed waaaay out to take in the size of the fight (Kronos Titan, Paladin construction, Lusca, etc.) or zoomed waaaaay out and have effects out the wazoo obscuring almost everything (old-style Hami Raids mostly). I'm just not much for remembering to take screenshots of myself, and when I do the lighting is off, the composition is screwy or something else that makes me loathe to post it.
And it certainly isn't a slam at Foo. I've seen his work on DA and like it, but it just isn't what I'm picturing in my mind for TJ. There are several artists work that I like very much but just can't see TJ being done by them. Of the couple I can think of off the top of my head that I can imagine commissioning some work from of TJ, I either can't really justify the expense in my head or they aren't taking commissions when I look.
I'm not sure how to take LJ's post, so I'll just leave it alone. I fear I've offended the local art community enough in one thread.
EDIT: To clarify one other thing, when I finally do commission someone to do some art of TJ it will motivate me to get good reference shots available. Most likely that will be from reactivating my second account and taking the screenshots from that account so that I can get the angles, composition, etc. that I'm happy with.
If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
Black Pebble is my new hero.
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Dude, I'm just messing with you and Foo. Have someone you know take a screenshot and email it to you... I just found it funny that it sounded like you weren't willing to show your toon. Peace bruddah.
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Originally Posted by Texas Justice
I'm not sure how to take LJ's post, so I'll just leave it alone. I fear I've offended the local art community enough in one thread.
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I don't get the refusing of free arts... I totally get the not asking or begging for them but refusing? *shrug* whatever... It's not like one would be forced to use the image created or anything yet could end up amazingly pleased...
Anyway, I've mentioned before that there is a bit of a drought of artists examples of their skills on the male form. When looking for commissionable artists I was really frustrated by this. Taking it a step further you could also say a lack of variety of forms...
However there is absolutely nothing to stop a potential buyer from finding an artist whose skills they admire and asking them if they think they'd be able to pull of the desired look. Just because the artist mainly posts examples of t$a it doesn't mean they can't do more... Sometimes it's just what they prefer doing and sometimes it just may be that that's what catches the most buyers eye...
If you really want the art, find an artist ya like, explain your hesitations and desires and see what they say. I'd be shocked if a good percentage didn't offer to do a sketch and let you approve that it was what you were going for before finalizing the deal... It wouldn't be all but I wouldn't be shocked if it was most...
I wasn't even offering! I was just interested to see what this character looked like!
Best artist of male pin-ups?
J-Bone. Not his Johnny DC stuff obviously, but check out his blog, Man's Adventure. While reading that other pin-ups thread, J-Bone was one of the few artists who came to my mind as a decent analog for what you guys were discussing over there -- not just drawing well, but drawing "sexy."
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Also, forgot to mention earlier but... I seriously doubt the Spidey in the black costume pic was the reference for the IGN.COM art. 
I would bet dollars to donuts that it was totally intended to be Venom in that pic... Anyone who muscled out spidey like that would obviously be on way too much acid.
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Originally Posted by Vivace
Yessir, Mr. Foo, sir.
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"I am a Tank. I am your first choice, I am your last hope." -- Rune Bull
"Durability is the quintessential super-power. " -- Sailboat
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Originally Posted by McBoo
Why is Venom trying to kill Mel Gibson? O.o
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Maybe Venom is Jewish and saw the video of when Gibson got pulled over??
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Yeah, I was going to say...different characters, different sources, different mediums. Nothing alike at all.
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Originally Posted by Caemgen
Also, forgot to mention earlier but... I seriously doubt the Spidey in the black costume pic was the reference for the IGN.COM art.
I would bet dollars to donuts that it was totally intended to be Venom in that pic... Anyone who muscled out spidey like that would obviously be on way too much acid. |
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Originally Posted by Texas Justice
Um. What is Chris Claremont doing in a group of artists? Writing their dialog?
Seriously, while Chris had a long stint writing X-Men and was involved in the creation of several memorable characters, he's not an artist. He's a writer. |
Oops! I misunderstood what this forum was about....reading comprehension FTW!
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If I were a women.. I would think the mens butts would be the hottest part..
im voting for Sam Kieth