Not bad...but I can't remember if we've had 3-doms perma holding an AV before on other all dom teams or not. I work late hours these days..so I miss all the fun!!!
I'm wondering though if it would be possible to make an /Earth Dom that was capable of soloing an AV...hmmm. I wonder what primary maybe an Earth/Earth.....hmmmm.
My level 50 Dominators:
Madame Mindbender 50 Mind/Energy
Fly Agaric 50 Plant/Thorn
Nate Nitro 50 Fire/Psi
I rather go for the 400 dps fire/fire as the ultimate av killer but earth has some nice dpa and the hold stacking with SS
EDIT: Video was cool, I´m loving all the SMASH
Cool video!
I had been wondering how people were doing with /Earth. Now I'm definitely going to start playing with new builds to make one.
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Yah that might not be bad. In the pre-i0/pre-dom buff days I played regularly with a sg mate Who's Fire/Fire was freaking amazing. Took down mobs really fast with kin support. Now with the buffing and availble IO's I'd imagine you could make a pretty sick Fire/Fire.../Earth looks interesting, but I just can't seem to get into it.
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Originally Posted by TRTerror
I rather go for the 400 dps fire/fire as the ultimate av killer but earth has some nice dpa and the hold stacking with SS
EDIT: Video was cool, I´m loving all the SMASH |
My level 50 Dominators:
Madame Mindbender 50 Mind/Energy
Fly Agaric 50 Plant/Thorn
Nate Nitro 50 Fire/Psi
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Not bad? He's zoomed all the way out, I'm hardly ever in frame, and there's no HD version!
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Originally Posted by RiverOcean
Not bad...
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Global: @Kazari
It was either Taunt or Purple Triangles of Doom. I stand by my decision!
-BackAlleyBrawler
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Try this one. You might be in there somewhere.
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Originally Posted by HacknSlash
Not bad? He's zoomed all the way out, I'm hardly ever in frame, and there's no HD version!
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Please buff Ice Control.
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I was actually thinking Grav/Earth. You'd have your ST hold, AoE hold, Seismic Smash hold and Singy's hold, plus power boost. You could cycle and stack mag pretty fast I'd say.
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Originally Posted by RiverOcean
Not bad...but I can't remember if we've had 3-doms perma holding an AV before on other all dom teams or not. I work late hours these days..so I miss all the fun!!!
I'm wondering though if it would be possible to make an /Earth Dom that was capable of soloing an AV...hmmm. I wonder what primary maybe an Earth/Earth.....hmmmm. |
Please buff Ice Control.
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Gravity takes a beating on the boards...(and its probably not undeserved) but one you get Singly the ability to lockdown mobs is just sick....|
Originally Posted by DarkCurrent
I was actually thinking Grav/Earth. You'd have your ST hold, AoE hold, Seismic Smash hold and Singy's hold, plus power boost. You could cycle and stack mag pretty fast I'd say.
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OOOOOH.....8 man grav/earth dom team... ..that might be too much awesome for the servers. They would explode
My level 50 Dominators:
Madame Mindbender 50 Mind/Energy
Fly Agaric 50 Plant/Thorn
Nate Nitro 50 Fire/Psi
I've got another one for you from last night.
Woodsman goes 'timber'.
Please buff Ice Control.
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If you watch the video, Hirsh and I are the ones who are actually pounding on Woodsman while DarkCurrent tries for his "Bane of Dannan" badge. |
Originally Posted by DarkCurrent
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If I quote #'s, they're from City of Data.
Global: @Kazari
It was either Taunt or Purple Triangles of Doom. I stand by my decision!
-BackAlleyBrawler
i thought his pet summons count toward hero slayer only?
Very Nice videos. Makes me want to start back playing my earth/earth dom Meadow Muffin.
Bump and Grind Bane/SoA
Kenja No Ishi Earth/Empathy Controller
Legendary Sannin Ninja/Pain Mastermind
Entoxicated Ninja/PSN Mastermind
Ninja Ryukenden Kat/WP Scrapper
Hellish Thoughts Fire/PSI Dominator
Thank You Devs for Merits!!!!
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Twas a joke...
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Originally Posted by TRTerror
i thought his pet summons count toward hero slayer only?
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If I quote #'s, they're from City of Data.
Global: @Kazari
It was either Taunt or Purple Triangles of Doom. I stand by my decision!
-BackAlleyBrawler
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Well if you notice he was over there summoning his own pets that were pounding on Stoney. Someone had to stop your pet from collecting more aggro.
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Originally Posted by HacknSlash
If you watch the video, Hirsh and I are the ones who are actually pounding on Woodsman while DarkCurrent tries for his "Bane of Dannan" badge.
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Please buff Ice Control.
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... why?
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Originally Posted by DarkCurrent
Well if you notice he was over there summoning his own pets that were pounding on Stoney. Someone had to stop your pet from collecting more aggro.
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If I quote #'s, they're from City of Data.
Global: @Kazari
It was either Taunt or Purple Triangles of Doom. I stand by my decision!
-BackAlleyBrawler
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Do it solo and I'll be impressed.
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Originally Posted by Weatherby Goode
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Do it solo and I'll be impressed. |
agreed.
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I was ignoring the snark..but its gaining momentum unwatched. I'd like to point out that was a team of only THREE doms taking on a Hero level woodsman and his conned purple pets. If it was a full team of eight, I'd see the point of the additional comments....however again it was THREE Doms, no corrupter or brute in site. Not even a MM....|
Originally Posted by black_barrier
agreed.
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I am impressed. If you're not than I say try it yourself with three Dominators and tell me how it went...
My level 50 Dominators:
Madame Mindbender 50 Mind/Energy
Fly Agaric 50 Plant/Thorn
Nate Nitro 50 Fire/Psi
Liliaceae showed a while back that it can be done with one, and against some fairly beefy AVs too: Positron and Ghost Widow.
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Technically, it was 2 1/2 doms as I spent the beginning of the fight taking care of the Bres boss. We were only running +1 x8-man difficulty setting (us: lvl 47, 47 and 48 vs them: 49s).|
Originally Posted by RiverOcean
I was ignoring the snark..but its gaining momentum unwatched. I'd like to point out that was a team of only THREE doms taking on a Hero level woodsman and his conned purple pets. If it was a full team of eight, I'd see the point of the additional comments....however again it was THREE Doms, no corrupter or brute in site. Not even a MM....
I am impressed. If you're not than I say try it yourself with three Dominators and tell me how it went... |
But I suppose 3 doms with no external buffs, no regen debuffs and low hp being able to:
1) permahold a PToD Hero for a solid 4 minutes
2) take zero damage from said hero, and
3) beat him to a pulp while 1 and 2 are happening is rather boring.
Next time I'll run my brute with dedicated kin and rad buffers to show how it's really done.
Please buff Ice Control.
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Not sure if you're trying to lay down a gauntlet here or not. But comparing a pre-revamp permadom soloing AVs for 60-80 minutes each after multiple failed attempts to 3 doms post-revamp, nonperma, defeating an AV in 4 minutes the first time doesn't make sense.|
Originally Posted by MinMin
Liliaceae showed a while back that it can be done with one, and against some fairly beefy AVs too: Positron and Ghost Widow.
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I'm just saying from my experience with the AT, /earth gives the best chances for AV fights with the high dmg and hold stacking. This isn't a competition for me either way, but if someone wants to make a case for a better dom secondary out there for AV killing, I'd like to see some comparable footage of a solo, duo or trio dom squad to be convinced.
Please buff Ice Control.
No gauntlet being thrown, just adding a datum to the discussion.
However, the thread title is misleading and I think that's the point people were making earlier in the thread. If you label a character as an AV killer, then most people would think you mean that the character can kill AVs by itself.
For instance, my L50 Fire/Psi permadom is very handy against the Hero-1 AV in the LGTF because Psi is one of the few damage types that he is vulnerable to and that Drain Psyche can shut down his regen for periods of time. By your usage of the term, she would qualify as an AV-Killer.
To be clear: I agree with your point that /Earth should be excellent against AV-class enemies and that your videos show a lot of promise in that area. I just hesitate to call such a character an AV killer until that character actually kills one without help.
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It sounds like we're all actually agreeing with each other here.. I also apologize if my recent post came across a little more peeved than I intended. Recent posts from both you and DC are making a case for /Earth as very potent secondary. Yes, it's a lot of melee and ST damage. However, for those of us who aren't afraid of "Squishy Melee" its looking pretty good. |
Originally Posted by MinMin
No gauntlet being thrown, just adding a datum to the discussion.
To be clear: I agree with your points that /Earth should be excellent against AV-class enemies and that your videos show a lot of promise in that area. I just hesitate to call such a character an AV killer until that character actually kills one without help. |
I'm actually working on a Grav/Earth that I'd like to perma. The stacking hold potential , especially in the late levels is looking good. If I can solo an AV with it, I'll let you know.
My level 50 Dominators:
Madame Mindbender 50 Mind/Energy
Fly Agaric 50 Plant/Thorn
Nate Nitro 50 Fire/Psi
/Earth is officially the new AV killer. Being able to stack holds quickly with your ST + Seismic Smash is to die for.
Just ask Luminary
Please buff Ice Control.