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A different weapon for each aura, and then just let us select the color scheme associated with it (like orange, green, blue elec shields etc)
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That's EXACTLY WHAT I SAID in response to the first suggestion for weapon auras. They can and have created weapons whose auras are a part of the weapon. There are several such weapons available to players already.
What they can't do is create weapon auras in the same manner that we have auras to place on our body - separate objects put on attachment points. This does not work for the weapons.
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Bah! It looks fantastic. It's my favorite weapon on my shield/axe tanker.
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He does have somewhat of a point, though. They did institute shields as two separate items - a shield model and an emblem overlay. I can only guess as to the mechanics behind how this is set up, and there is the matter that all shields with auras (as opposed to patterns) have the auras baked into the shields and disallow you from altering them. But shields are set up as capes - one shield with its own two colours and one shield ornament with its own colours as well. The Spiked shield works like this.
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That's EXACTLY WHAT I SAID in response to the first suggestion for weapon auras. They can and have created weapons whose auras are a part of the weapon. There are several such weapons available to players already. What they can't do is create weapon auras in the same manner that we have auras to place on our body - separate objects put on attachment points. This does not work for the weapons. |
Whether this is applicable to weapons, I cannot say. Perhaps with enough time and effort, the subsystem for handling them could be altered into this. What I DO know, however, is that such a thing for weapons is without precedent, and may well require some significant changes to accommodate. It's definitely something to ask for in the future, but hardly something to say "they could just do it" about.
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Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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We also BADLY need aura's for our weapons like Battle Maiden and Infernal have. Fire aura, electricity and cold aura, nether aura, light aura, you name it, our weapons NEED it!
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I have been saying this for a while now.
/Signed
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Those weapons you are talking about have been created with a built-in aura.
Sure they could, though depending how you do it is the tricy part. they could do it like they did for elemental shields. A different weapon for each aura, and then just let us select the color scheme associated with it (like orange, green, blue elec shields etc)
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To add an aura to something say.. a Legacy Broadsword would be impossible because it would be like adding one of the costume auras (E.G: Fiery Body) over a weapon. Which according to the Devs is impossible because that's adding a costume piece onto a costume piece.
Funny, they never ever said "can't" about power customization. They said it'd require a major overhaul in the way powers work, and would take quite a few man-hours.
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Did you just use "casual gamer" and "purpled-out warshade" in the same sentence?
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Sure they could, though depending how you do it is the tricy part. they could do it like they did for elemental shields. A different weapon for each aura, and then just let us select the color scheme associated with it (like orange, green, blue elec shields etc)
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What part of "No" are you failing to understand here?
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That fact that it's possible, that's what part. It doesn't matter what anyone says as to "it would take so much work" or "there are complications however" It IS possible, that's all that matters. It's possible, and i'm asking for it to be worked on so we can have it. That's the ONLY part that matters. It may be a matter of how long into the future, but there is NOTHING wrong with asking such a request. I don't understand all you fearmongers trying to say it will never happen, that's just foolish.
Even if its so extensive as the work you say it would be. Then booster pack #5 "elemental" here we come.
Even if its so extensive as the work you say it would be. Then booster pack #5 "elemental" here we come.
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If the devs wanted to copy pasta the weapons so they could add auras tot hem one at a time they would started a slow tinkle already.
And yes the weapons could have auras like people IF the Devs went back a recoded the engine. But who wants to dismantle and rebuild a dishwasher to fit in more pots?
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No, actually, the only part that matters is that when BABs was asked for this, he said no. Since it's his call, his final word is all that counts.
That fact that it's possible, that's what part. It doesn't matter what anyone says as to "it would take so much work" or "there are complications however" It IS possible, that's all that matters. It's possible, and i'm asking for it to be worked on so we can have it. That's the ONLY part that matters. It may be a matter of how long into the future, but there is NOTHING wrong with asking such a request. I don't understand all you fearmongers trying to say it will never happen, that's just foolish.
Even if its so extensive as the work you say it would be. Then booster pack #5 "elemental" here we come. |
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To avoid crediting him with something he may not have actually said, that's how I remember it. He could very well have left escape clauses, but as I remember it, we got the same "No. Won't happen." as we've gotten when asking for multiple cape rigs. Whether I'm wrong or right doesn't change the fact that his call is what ultimately matters.
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Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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Speaking as a programmer, allow me to inform you that yes, technically everything is possible. Therefore, "possible" is irrelevant to any conversation about what will be done. The word you should be using is "feasible."
That fact that it's possible, that's what part. It doesn't matter what anyone says as to "it would take so much work" or "there are complications however" It IS possible, that's all that matters. It's possible, and i'm asking for it to be worked on so we can have it. That's the ONLY part that matters. It may be a matter of how long into the future, but there is NOTHING wrong with asking such a request. I don't understand all you fearmongers trying to say it will never happen, that's just foolish.
Even if its so extensive as the work you say it would be. Then booster pack #5 "elemental" here we come. |
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Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.
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They can put auras into weapons, but we can't change them. They are baked into the model I think.
I don't know if they can make the auras tintable adding 2 arrays of colors: one to the weapon, the other for the aura. We have that for capes, but maybe can't be done with weapons.
With that I mean, maybe they don't want to do it because that means a combination of ALL weapons with ALL auras, and make the auras tintable too. Maybe is doable but means a lot of work they can't manage now, or the database will be full of copies of the same object with auras.
Also, if they do that, people will ask for "shoulder pieces with auras", "headpieces with auras", etc.
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They can put auras into weapons, but we can't change them. They are baked into the model I think.
I don't know if they can make the auras tintable adding 2 arrays of colors: one to the weapon, the other for the aura. We have that for capes, but maybe can't be done with weapons.
With that I mean, maybe they don't want to do it because that means a combination of ALL weapons with ALL auras, and make the auras tintable too. Maybe is doable but means a lot of work they can't manage now, or the database will be full of copies of the same object with auras.
Also, if they do that, people will ask for "shoulder pieces with auras", "headpieces with auras", etc.
This conversation is going in circles so fast I'm surprised it hasn't needed to sit down and wait for the diziness to pass.
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Why did they change the name of the Talsorian weapons to vanguard? Talsorian was SOOOO much cooler of a name than lame Vanguard is . Change it back!!! :P
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This was also discussed (much) earlier the same day you posted this in a thread created in the Player Questions section. Has a few more pieces of info/insights that might be of interest regarding the name change.
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i make stuff...
That's because circular logic works because circular logic works.
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Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.
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I read this while hungry.
I now have an overwhelming urge to chew peoples faces off...
If it happens, it happens.
If it doesnt, STOP WHINING ABOUT IT!
/rage vent
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GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Because nobody in the history of the world has EVER changed their mind...
No, actually, the only part that matters is that when BABs was asked for this, he said no. Since it's his call, his final word is all that counts.
*edit* To avoid crediting him with something he may not have actually said, that's how I remember it. He could very well have left escape clauses, but as I remember it, we got the same "No. Won't happen." as we've gotten when asking for multiple cape rigs. Whether I'm wrong or right doesn't change the fact that his call is what ultimately matters. |
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Codpiece with an Aura please....
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Unlike arbitrary auras on weapons, there is nothing in the costume system itself preventing us having multiple cape rigs. This is evidenced by things such as Bridal Veil + Wedding Tux, or Cape + Magic Bolero, as well as Ghost Widow's hair (which itself is multiple cape rigs), and the outfits of Candy LeBeaux and Sister Solaris and her Sybils.
What does prevent us from having multiple cape rigs is an imposed rule that we're only allowed to have one, which is why, for example, if I ever edit my Mastermind's 5th costume slot it will automatically be drastically altered, because it uses the cape+bolero combination, which is no longer valid in the costume creator.
With arbitrary auras on weapons, on the other hand, they would have to dramatically alter the way costumes and auras work in the game. They can create weapons that have an aura as a part of the weapon, but they can't put an aura on a weapon.
What does prevent us from having multiple cape rigs is an imposed rule that we're only allowed to have one, which is why, for example, if I ever edit my Mastermind's 5th costume slot it will automatically be drastically altered, because it uses the cape+bolero combination, which is no longer valid in the costume creator.
With arbitrary auras on weapons, on the other hand, they would have to dramatically alter the way costumes and auras work in the game. They can create weapons that have an aura as a part of the weapon, but they can't put an aura on a weapon.
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/36641/My-Little-Exalt
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Ah hah!
What does prevent us from having multiple cape rigs is an imposed rule that we're only allowed to have one, which is why, for example, if I ever edit my Mastermind's 5th costume slot it will automatically be drastically altered, because it uses the cape+bolero combination, which is no longer valid in the costume creator.
With arbitrary auras on weapons, on the other hand, they would have to dramatically alter the way costumes and auras work in the game. They can create weapons that have an aura as a part of the weapon, but they can't put an aura on a weapon. |
I want my sword to have a cape! How about that?
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Only if my sword can have a sword and shield.
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Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.
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Out-of-universe, "Talsorian" was an homage/nod to the R. Talsorian games, of which, I believe, Positron is a fan of.
NEAT! Thanks for the info Bolt! \m/