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Well, since Mids is a home-made, third-party, unsupported piece of software, the only options you really have are to get access to a Windows computer, boot your Mac into Windows mode (if you can), or make your own Mac hero planner.|
Originally Posted by Grid_Lock
So yeah, I play on a mac, and normally I would post this is the mac users section... Buts its always a ghost town over there. That being said...
I as a mac user am gimped by the fact that I have no mids... Cohplanner works alright I suppose, but its missing half the PvP IO sets. And PvP builds are the only time that I need to use a mids type program. Grrr... Anyone know a remedy? |
Really though, the fact that someone went out and built Mids on their own time, updated it regularly, and made it available to everyone, for free makes it anything but "lame", if you asl me.
@Roderick
Got to agree with Roderick there.
However, there is a cross platform one under development but these things move at their own pace.
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It's also lame that Mids doesn't fix the Darfur crisis.
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Originally Posted by Sailboat
It's also lame that Mids doesn't fix the Darfur crisis.
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Mine as well, please.
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Originally Posted by Aett_Thorn
While we're at it, my shower could use re-grouting.
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And even more lame, Mids is unable to make a proper pumpkin spice cappucinno.
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Originally Posted by Sailboat
It's also lame that Mids doesn't fix the Darfur crisis.
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This is the worst part. Utter fail, Mids'! UTTER FAIL!
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Originally Posted by Willowpaw
And even more lame, Mids is unable to make a proper pumpkin spice cappucinno.
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Mids Hero Designer: http://www.cohplanner.com
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I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.
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Originally Posted by Grid_Lock
So yeah, I play on a mac
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Windows in a VM/Emulation.
Dual-boot Windows.
Separate Windows machine.
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Upgrade to Windows.
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Originally Posted by Grid_Lock
So yeah, I play on a mac
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Then you are SOL.
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Originally Posted by Laevateinn
Upgrade to Windows.
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Obviously, the original poster has upgraded. However, there are caveats with upgrades. Sometimes software built against legacy platforms won't work, and so yes, sometimes it's worth it to have a legacy platform around to continue to use legacy code.
There are also some cases where some programs are better left to a legacy platform. I happen to be of the opinion that tools like MIDS are among them. I don't like MIDS for a variety of reasons. It's one thing to look at a list of numbers and think "that looks good." It's entirely another thing to actually put those numbers into realistic play. MIDS can tell you everything there is to know about the raw numbers, but it won't tell you one lick about how an avatar plays. It won't tell you what the natural strengths or weaknesses are. It won't tell you what enemies you'll face, nor how to switch up your playing style for the needs of a team. It won't tell you how long you'll have to farm or how many TF's you'll have to run to afford the IO sets you want. It won't tell you what's actually available.
For these and many other reasons, I don't use MIDS, and I'd have a hard time justifying anybody spending time to port the underlying code to a better operating system base, much less maintaining the current lists of enhancement sets.
But... that's just me. Obviously some people find value in the tool. I'm not one of those people.
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If I do so and find myself in the same predicament as the OP, unable to use Mids' - a significant decrease in QoL and functionality - will you also brush off my concerns by claiming it's "better left to a legacy platform?" |
Originally Posted by je_saist
There are no such things as upgrades in the Windows World. There are only crossgrades. If you want to upgrade, install a Linux and Get a Mac. And no, this isn't for debate, question. This is stated fact.
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See my counterpoint in another thread about Jam and Marmalade, and how YMMV.|
Originally Posted by je_saist
There are no such things as upgrades in the Windows World. There are only crossgrades. If you want to upgrade, install a Linux and Get a Mac. And no, this isn't for debate, question. This is stated fact.
Obviously, the original poster has upgraded. However, there are caveats with upgrades. Sometimes software built against legacy platforms won't work, and so yes, sometimes it's worth it to have a legacy platform around to continue to use legacy code. There are also some cases where some programs are better left to a legacy platform. I happen to be of the opinion that tools like MIDS are among them. I don't like MIDS for a variety of reasons. It's one thing to look at a list of numbers and think "that looks good." It's entirely another thing to actually put those numbers into realistic play. MIDS can tell you everything there is to know about the raw numbers, but it won't tell you one lick about how an avatar plays. It won't tell you what the natural strengths or weaknesses are. It won't tell you what enemies you'll face, nor how to switch up your playing style for the needs of a team. It won't tell you how long you'll have to farm or how many TF's you'll have to run to afford the IO sets you want. It won't tell you what's actually available. For these and many other reasons, I don't use MIDS, and I'd have a hard time justifying anybody spending time to port the underlying code to a better operating system base, much less maintaining the current lists of enhancement sets. But... that's just me. Obviously some people find value in the tool. I'm not one of those people. |
Just because some people don't like a certain OS doesn't mean it's terrible. I, for example, can't stand Macs. Mostly due to the layout, the different keyboard, and a general clunky feel. That doesn't make YOUR opinion and results any less valid. I just dont have the same tastes. Nor does everyone.
So, less rage, m'kay? =]
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GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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Well obviously it won't tell you those things. There's Forums and Guides and play experience for all of that. But it will tell you in what order to take the powers you fancy, what the raw totals will be on the character (which *IS* very useful) and allow you to plan a decent respec (where you already have a pretty good idea of how the character plays but want to switch powers, drop something because it underperforms or just move some slots about). It's also probably the best way to outline what IO Sets you want to go for. As a character development tool it's excellent.|
Originally Posted by je_saist
There are no such things as upgrades in the Windows World. There are only crossgrades. If you want to upgrade, install a Linux and Get a Mac. And no, this isn't for debate, question. This is stated fact.
Obviously, the original poster has upgraded. However, there are caveats with upgrades. Sometimes software built against legacy platforms won't work, and so yes, sometimes it's worth it to have a legacy platform around to continue to use legacy code. There are also some cases where some programs are better left to a legacy platform. I happen to be of the opinion that tools like MIDS are among them. I don't like MIDS for a variety of reasons. It's one thing to look at a list of numbers and think "that looks good." It's entirely another thing to actually put those numbers into realistic play. MIDS can tell you everything there is to know about the raw numbers, but it won't tell you one lick about how an avatar plays. It won't tell you what the natural strengths or weaknesses are. It won't tell you what enemies you'll face, nor how to switch up your playing style for the needs of a team. It won't tell you how long you'll have to farm or how many TF's you'll have to run to afford the IO sets you want. It won't tell you what's actually available. |
Referring to Windows Platforms as "legacy" is rather daft as well. I love Linux (I'm using it right now). That doesn't mean I have to be anti-Windows. It also means I wouldn't necessarily use Linux at home (since I like playing games without trying to configure and run them through an Emulator, or paying for one) and I wouldn't really recommend it to PC Novices (since they'll just end up ringing me with every little technical issue they might have. Trying to find a Technical Answer to a Linux question on d'internet can be a right pain).
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Originally Posted by je_saist
There are no such things as upgrades in the Windows World. There are only crossgrades. If you want to upgrade, install a Linux and Get a Mac. And no, this isn't for debate, question. This is stated fact.
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Originally Posted by Laevateinn
If I do so and find myself in the same predicament as the OP, unable to use Mids' - a significant decrease in QoL and functionality - will you also brush off my concerns by claiming it's "better left to a legacy platform?"
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That being said, if you're buying a Mac to put Windows on, you're essentially just paid a premium to get a Wintel machine with a nice little alternative GUI system (like the laptops that boot up into DVD-player only mode).
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Y'know... the whole OS wars bit was tiresome back when it was DOS/Win9x vs NT vs OS/2 vs CLI-only (or barely XFree, at the time) Linux vs Unix vs Mac .... yeah, when we had *more* choices.
I'll happily discuss advantages vs disadvantages. But that's *not* the same as OS snobbery. I'm running Windows 7 (and, on my work system, XP.) I've run, and generally like, OS X. Linux I've run on occasion, but not as a main OS, but do think it's getting to a point where more people *could* use it (and paving over some of the distro-fracture is good.) Is one better than the other? Is a hammer better than a paintbrush? They're tools. Something which some of the users need to *stop* being in these discussions.
I suggest you upgrade to Windows - you'll have fewer compatibility problems
Also, why hasn't Mid's added animated hair yet?
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Well said. I use Windows for one reason and one reason only. It has the highest quantity of software that I'm interested in that will run on it natively (mostly video games). An operating system by itself is not interesting or useful, it is only useful as a means of running software.
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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
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Y'know... the whole OS wars bit was tiresome back when it was DOS/Win9x vs NT vs OS/2 vs CLI-only (or barely XFree, at the time) Linux vs Unix vs Mac .... yeah, when we had *more* choices. I'll happily discuss advantages vs disadvantages. But that's *not* the same as OS snobbery. I'm running Windows 7 (and, on my work system, XP.) I've run, and generally like, OS X. Linux I've run on occasion, but not as a main OS, but do think it's getting to a point where more people *could* use it (and paving over some of the distro-fracture is good.) Is one better than the other? Is a hammer better than a paintbrush? They're tools. Something which some of the users need to *stop* being in these discussions. |
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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
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Y'know... the whole OS wars bit was tiresome back when it was DOS/Win9x vs NT vs OS/2 vs CLI-only (or barely XFree, at the time) Linux vs Unix vs Mac .... yeah, when we had *more* choices. I'll happily discuss advantages vs disadvantages. But that's *not* the same as OS snobbery. I'm running Windows 7 (and, on my work system, XP.) I've run, and generally like, OS X. Linux I've run on occasion, but not as a main OS, but do think it's getting to a point where more people *could* use it (and paving over some of the distro-fracture is good.) Is one better than the other? Is a hammer better than a paintbrush? They're tools. Something which some of the users need to *stop* being in these discussions. |
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Well said. I use Windows for one reason and one reason only. It has the highest quantity of software that I'm interested in that will run on it natively (mostly video games). An operating system by itself is not interesting or useful, it is only useful as a means of running software.
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I work on Windows software because I'm paid to.
I game on Windows software because...well...there's a reason why people refer to it as Wintendo.
For everything else, there's Linux.
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Originally Posted by je_saist
There are no such things as upgrades in the Windows World. There are only crossgrades. If you want to upgrade, install a Linux and Get a Mac. And no, this isn't for debate, question. This is stated fact.
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But seriously, can you stop ranting/ragging on Windows every time it gets brought up (especially if in reference to Mac or Linux)? It simply gets old.
Note, I'm not ragging on your stance, just your soapbox.
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Y'know... the whole OS wars bit was tiresome back when it was DOS/Win9x vs NT vs OS/2 vs CLI-only (or barely XFree, at the time) Linux vs Unix vs Mac .... |
That said, I'm a Mac user...... but I'm one who's been using shareware/freeware assistance programs for decades, and is well aware that they only exist because of dedicated amateurs who feel motivated to make them. Mids doesn't have a Mac version? Oh, well. Them's the breaks. If you want it so bad, do what the original author did..... learn programming and make it yourself.
So yeah, I play on a mac, and normally I would post this is the mac users section... Buts its always a ghost town over there. That being said...
I as a mac user am gimped by the fact that I have no mids... Cohplanner works alright I suppose, but its missing half the PvP IO sets. And PvP builds are the only time that I need to use a mids type program. Grrr... Anyone know a remedy?