How do you get so rich???

I've just started farming a couple weeks ago, and I'm trying to IO out my level 50 Fire/Kin. I'm getting around 10-12 million influence after about 3-4 runs (I farm the Council...Close the Dimensional Ruptures). Then I buy a couple of IOs and I'm broke again. I see other people have hundreds of millions or even billions. I'm just getting used to farming, but I'm wondering how everyone gets so rich!

I know people said that they street fight on the streets of PI and they get a purple drop and then sell those. Is this true? Will any level 50 on the streets in Peregrine Island occasionally drop a purple that I could sell?

Thanks!

Any enemy that's 47+ (can drop level 50 recipes) has a chance to drop a purple. One of my alts has well over a billion and a fully slotted build, but that was mostly by crafting and selling IO's. One method is to buy the recipe and salvage for an IO for 6 million and then sell it for 12 million after crafting. (Just as an example.)

The market section of the forums has more comprehensive info on making inf through the markets, but basically it comes down to buy (find) low and sell high.

-->Market section this way<--

Save money by buying recipes and rolling your own IOs.

Buy recipes, make the IOs and sell them.

Memorize common IO recipes and craft for profit.

Run TFs, buy popular, valuable recipes with the merits, craft and sell.

Lot more tips in the market section. But those are what I do. I don't have a billion yet, but I've purpled out one character, fully IOed most all the rest, and have any where from 100 to 850 mill on each of them.

One final way to make a lot of money in the long term? Buy up Halloween salvage. Spend 50-60k in stacks of 10. Each of your characters can hold 99 of each piece. In 3-4 months, start selling them for around 400k each. Edit: ooops, didn't carry the two... Profit will be 118 million

I can usually find recipes for sale for 5 million and the crafted IO for sale for 15 million. (In many cases, the RECIPE ITSELF IS IN STOCK.)

There are people who don't want to craft. There are people with enough millions that the difference in price isn't significant. When I list something for 37 million and it sells for 55 million, I'm not taking advantage of anyone. What I'm tryin to say is, this is ethical and fair.

Patient people make money off impatient people, who then run an ITF and make the money back.

EDIT: I lost this post once, and when I reconstructed it I left out important sentences. Like "With patience, you can buy that recipe for 5 million inf, craft it, list it for somewhat under 15 million inf, and collect profit a couple days later. "

As pretty much everyone has said, there's more detail in the Market section of the forums. Most of the people with billions of influence are playing the Market in addition to or even instead of farming. As you've noticed, however, there's a sizeable investment needed to start crafting and turning things around at that level - you need money to make money.

If you really want to get into marketeering, a good safe way to build up the capital you need is to memorize IO recipes. Pick an ever-popular one like Accuracy or Damage and craft enough of the correct level IOs to get the corresponding Invention badge. This 1) allows you to craft that IO without a recipe and 2) gives you a sizeable discount on the crafting cost.

At this point you can craft the IO and sell it for more than it cost you to make it, but less than it would cost someone who doesn't have the badge to craft the same IO. It's a win/win. The person who doesn't want to go through the bother of getting the badges or who just wants fast IOs buys them from you because it costs less than making them themselves and you still make a profit. You can make a couple million per session this way. It's not nearly as lucrative as more complex marketing but it's reliable and will build you the seed cash you need.

You can do this and farm simultaneously. Stock up your wares at the market, go farm, come back and collect your earnings, sell anything good you got as drops from farming, then recraft your IO wares and put them back up for sale. Then go farm again or log off and come back later. Active and passive earning.

I borrowed the money from my mom.

My billions came from just farming and selling the drops. I sell everything. If it's the purps i want for my toon, i keep it. If i can't use it, i sell it to someone who can and save the inf from that sale. I don't take time to find a recipe in WW and craft for my inf. Most people will tell you to flip, but it's not needed unless you like that part of the game. I personally dont.

Once you get a fire/kin built to handle mobs of 8, you'll be rich in no time. No need to bump the level up any. The faster you kill the mobs the more chances you have at purple drops. I run mine at level 49's. In my exp, the BM and Demon farms give me the most purple drops. I average a purp drop a day, but i also play 3 hours a day and up to 8 on the weekends.

Or you can still farm in AE. Normal farms (not boss farms) still give good ticket drops and you can hit 1500 per run. 2 runs = a gold roll at level 10 (3000 tix). Or you can choose level 10 bronze rolls (at 60 per roll) and make millions like that as i have this weekend. PM me if you want the AE number.

step 1: Read the Market forum
step 2: ???
step 3: Profit

RE: Halloween salvage

If you are a farmer you might as well farm it in pi. The mobs that are dropping it for you are the same ones dropping purples.

Re: Farming

Check your performance if you don't need to farm at -1 don't. While there is little performance difference between a 49 recipe and a 50 recipe there is usually significant price differences and sales volume differences.

Another Fan... I agree to disagree with you a little.

This is just me, but my whole reason to even farm is for Purples. With that said, i don't care if my other drops are 49's because that's not what i'm after. To be honest, i hardly get anything else worth anything anyway. I can count on 1 hand how many respecs, luck of the gambler (of any variety), aegis, numina's, and several others that i have ever gotten in PI farming. And i do it ALOT. So, i just do it at 49 for the speed.

With that said, AE is still a good idea to farm also. Normal farms give you 100% of the rewards. Last night i done 3 runs and had 4500 tickets. I did a gold roll (pacing of the turtle:chance for rech slow. crafted selling for 12-15mil), did 2 silver rolls (got 2 LotG def recipes. crafted selling around 10-20mil each) and a few bronze rolls but got nada this time. The other day i did all bronze rolls and got a couple steadfast -kb and a few steadfast uniques. The uniques sold crafted for 30mil each.

So, when it comes to making inf, there are MANY different ways and none wrong. It all depends on what you like doing. I personally enjoy farming. It actually lets me play my 50 for more than just sitting in Atlas with other 50's. (who are prolly waiting on their flips to sell. lol)

I'm not rich at all, I'm just very patient.

I don't feel any need to IO out my characters RITE NAO!!!

I prefer to slowly put them together as stuff drops for me. I despise farming in pretty much all forms, so I refuse to do it (I have no major issue with farmers themselves, I just dislike farming, so I don't do it). When I put them together slowly like that Ican watch their performance slowly increase, and I rather enjoy that in a way.

I wait until I hit 50 to run Unai Kemen and Maria Jenkins' arcs. They're long arcs and if I run them on higher difficulty I get lots of mobs to kill without farming one mission over and over. That gives me around 40 missions to run packed full of mobs, and since I'm completing every mission when I run it, I'm not farming, which prevents me from getting tired of the missions.

If I get a purple drop I sell it, and I vendor all the generic IO recipes that drop (they're good for around 100k each) Sometimes I dabble in PvP (rarely these days) but I haven't gotten anything out of that yet (PvP recipes can sell for more than a billion for certain ones)

It's slow, but it keeps me entertained and still interested in the character.

My stance on it is: If you're farming with only the profit in mind and not having fun doing it, you're doing it wrong. Find a way of earning cash that you enjoy doing and it will seem a lot less time consuming. If that happens to be farming, fine, if it's not, don't feel like you have to do something that isn't fun just for the rewards.

More a general observation than a direct reply to the OP:

The key thing to do (outside of marketeering) is to simply play your 50s. Even soloing a very poor build for doing so (such as my emp/elec defender) you can pull down roughly 1 million inf/hour.
(reference the original Cats hour chalange thread now purged). This was before the recent buff to the 50s earnings per defeat, so really the baseline would be closer to 1.25-1.5 million inf/hour.


A top end soloing build can exceed 30 million inf/hour (though 25 million/hour is a more realistic target) and that discounts market sales (assumes all recipe vendored), so the 'real' earning potential selling drops is much higher.

ref:
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=195080

Thanks for all your help guys.

I just bought the recipe and made a Crushing Impact: Acc/Dam/End level 50 IO and I'm selling it at WW. If it sells for 3,000,000 influence, I should be making around 2,109,000 each time I sell one. But my first one is still selling, but hopefully it'll sell soon. Once I get more money, I'll buy stacks of them and make several at once, and sell the whole stack at once, and then go farm at -1 x8.

But after this IO sells, I'm going to try the Crushing Impact: Acc/Dam/Rech level 50 IO. It looks like more people are interested in that one.

What do you think is the best IO to buy for cheap and sell for good profit? As I just mentioned, I'm trying out the Crushing Impacts. I need a cheap one for now because when my first one sells, I'll be resting at 3,000,000 only. So if I make a couple mil each time, it'll slowly build up, plus if I find any purple drops.

Any thoughts?

I'm not in the game, so I can't look at the recipe and crafted prices, but I would look at sets that aren't top end that provide a Def bonus and/or a Recharge Time Reduction. Acc bonuses are another good one. Stuff like:

Crushing Impact
Recactive Armour
Serendipity
Scirocco's Dervish
Posi's Blast
Mako's Bite
LotG
Thunderstrike