Thanks for the helpful advice everyone.
I'm selling my second Crushing Impact (this time it's Acc/Dam/Rech) and I think I'll stick with that one. I'll probably make one at a time and sell one at a time. And when they're selling, I'll go farm at -1 x8 for purple drops. Thanks, I'm already making more money than I ever have!
Virtue
Heroes
50- Fire Kinnnnn (Fire/Kin Controller)
50- Shielded Deity (Elec/Shield Scrapper)
50- Doomaster (Invuln/Fire Tanker)
Villains
50- Farm (SS/SD Brute)
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I PM'd you for the AE number! Thanks.
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Originally Posted by eryq2
Or you can still farm in AE. Normal farms (not boss farms) still give good ticket drops and you can hit 1500 per run. 2 runs = a gold roll at level 10 (3000 tix). Or you can choose level 10 bronze rolls (at 60 per roll) and make millions like that as i have this weekend. PM me if you want the AE number.
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Virtue
Heroes
50- Fire Kinnnnn (Fire/Kin Controller)
50- Shielded Deity (Elec/Shield Scrapper)
50- Doomaster (Invuln/Fire Tanker)
Villains
50- Farm (SS/SD Brute)
i dont even mess around on non AE farms anymore. i do a +2 set to 6 people on my spines/dark scrapper and get around 1600 tickets a run. i turn around and buy 3 prophecy salvages and sell them for 2 mill each and do it again. so thats over 6mill in about 20mins it takes to run that map 
easy money.
RED CAP DAGGERS: if you want them red side on infinity, send a pm i have the mission to get them for dual blades.
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Nice. May I ask what the number is for that farm you use so I can try it? |
Originally Posted by random_person
i dont even mess around on non AE farms anymore. i do a +2 set to 6 people on my spines/dark scrapper and get around 1600 tickets a run. i turn around and buy 3 prophecy salvages and sell them for 2 mill each and do it again. so thats over 6mill in about 20mins it takes to run that map
easy money. |
And if I have my Fire/Kin, what difficulty would be best on AE farms to get the most tickets?
Virtue
Heroes
50- Fire Kinnnnn (Fire/Kin Controller)
50- Shielded Deity (Elec/Shield Scrapper)
50- Doomaster (Invuln/Fire Tanker)
Villains
50- Farm (SS/SD Brute)
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i run it also on my fire/psi permadom and she handles it pretty well. i also run it on +2 set to 6 people. the badies in this arch i made are the council empire. its good cause they get stunned easily but, do -rech but, not much. i just make sure to use smoke before each group then jump towards the middle of the group while casting either flashfire or cinders to stun / hold them. id say every 6th group has a boss and watch out for them, although u can stun them if they arent focused on, they can pack a punch, but theyre not to bad |
Originally Posted by BalleRyan
Nice. May I ask what the number is for that farm you use so I can try it?
And if I have my Fire/Kin, what difficulty would be best on AE farms to get the most tickets? |
im pm u the arch#
RED CAP DAGGERS: if you want them red side on infinity, send a pm i have the mission to get them for dual blades.
If you enjoy whacking Council, you enjoy whacking Council. But if you don't... 18 million an hour, that's about 50 hours to get to this kinda money.
There may be faster ways.
EDIT: For instance, I just bought two recipes for 23 million (each), instantly buying them, added 2.5 million of instabought salvage, crafted (.5 million) and listed for 43 million. Last 5 sales are 50-60 million and they're all in the last 24 hours. If I get ONLY what I asked, instead of the 50 million I expect, that's 26 million in, 4.3 million to Mr. Wentworth and 12.7 million profit. I did it twice, so call it 25 million inf in less than 20 minutes' work (with roughly a 24 hour delay for inf delivery.) And that's villainside, where it's relatively hard to make money.
Mini-guides: Force Field Defenders, Blasters, Market Self-Defense, Frankenslotting.
So you think you're a hero, huh.
@Boltcutter in game.
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That's a good point. I am actually doing this marketeering at WW. But I've been waiting for my enhancement to sell. I'm still trying to find the right recipes to buy, make, and then sell.
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Originally Posted by Fulmens
EDIT: For instance, I just bought two recipes for 23 million (each), instantly buying them, added 2.5 million of instabought salvage, crafted (.5 million) and listed for 43 million. Last 5 sales are 50-60 million and they're all in the last 24 hours. If I get ONLY what I asked, instead of the 50 million I expect, that's 26 million in, 4.3 million to Mr. Wentworth and 12.7 million profit. I did it twice, so call it 25 million inf in less than 20 minutes' work (with roughly a 24 hour delay for inf delivery.) And that's villainside, where it's relatively hard to make money. |
Virtue
Heroes
50- Fire Kinnnnn (Fire/Kin Controller)
50- Shielded Deity (Elec/Shield Scrapper)
50- Doomaster (Invuln/Fire Tanker)
Villains
50- Farm (SS/SD Brute)
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Totally agree here. I can spend only several minutes to work the rack and craft while earning a huge amount of inf that I've never been able to get through normal play in the same amount of time. In fact, it's not even close, with crafted sales profit being in the tens of millions for minutes of effort. I can see, however, how a fast and furious farm build might regularly get the top-end (purple) drops and earn just as much in the same time frame as a shrewd crafter and marketeer.
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Originally Posted by Fulmens
There may be faster ways.
EDIT: For instance, I just bought two recipes for 23 million (each), instantly buying them, added 2.5 million of instabought salvage, crafted (.5 million) and listed for 43 million. Last 5 sales are 50-60 million and they're all in the last 24 hours. If I get ONLY what I asked, instead of the 50 million I expect, that's 26 million in, 4.3 million to Mr. Wentworth and 12.7 million profit. I did it twice, so call it 25 million inf in less than 20 minutes' work (with roughly a 24 hour delay for inf delivery.) And that's villainside, where it's relatively hard to make money. |
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The problem with any market scheme is that if more than a couple of people do it, it no longer works. You wind up competing with someone else for the same market niche, outbidding each other for the same items, until it's no longer profitable.|
Originally Posted by BalleRyan
Thanks! I'll definitely try out that Halloween salvage trick. How many do I have to buy of each to get 118 million? 99 of each? Or just 10 at a time?
And what are the popular recipes that I should buy, craft, and then sell? This is probably what I'll do to make a lot of influence. |
You need to take the general principle "buy low/sell high" and find some unique niche to apply that to. Getting the specific items to buy and sell from suggestions on the forums guarantees you're going to be competing for that niche with someone else.
Find your own niche (something that sells for a lot that you know how to get cheaply) and keep mum about it. Odds are you won't be able to keep that niche forever; you'll need to adapt over time as conditions change.
Time was you could buy base salvage in bulk for pennies, craft base components from that and then sell the components for a hundred or thousand times profit. I have no idea what people were using those components for (self buffs maybe?), but that stopped working when they unified base and invention salvage. I made millions that way, back when millions was real money
.There is no one trick to getting rich. The "easiest" way is to just play the game and have fun with your level 50 character, defeating tons of level 50 mobs. One day, when you're least expecting it, a purple recipe will drop and you will become much richer. Or you might just want to use that recipe for yourself. Just make sure your salvage and recipe inventories are never full!
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Well, that's half of it right there. Once you find a good niche or three, you can settle on it, although some more experienced folks might move around between a larger number of niches.|
Originally Posted by BalleRyan
I'm still trying to find the right recipes to buy, make, and then sell.
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Having played this game still less than a year, I'll just say I know it took me a while to understand the whole IO system and offerings (comprehensively listed on Paragon wiki) as well as scrolling through the market offerings to see how it plays out. Go for it. Decide to invest a chunk of your inf, find a niche (just one can be enough!), experiment a little bit where it makes sense, maybe spread your bids. Inf is easy to make.
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Everything else (including market play) aside, we play this game to enjoy doing what we do with our characters, from conception to level 50 and beyond. The whole purpose of influence/infamy (as well as merits) is to apply it towards improving our characters' capabilities.|
Originally Posted by Rodion
The problem with any market scheme is that if more than a couple of people do it, it no longer works. You wind up competing with someone else for the same market niche, outbidding each other for the same items, until it's no longer profitable.
You need to take the general principle "buy low/sell high" and find some unique niche to apply that to. Getting the specific items to buy and sell from suggestions on the forums guarantees you're going to be competing for that niche with someone else. Find your own niche (something that sells for a lot that you know how to get cheaply) and keep mum about it. Odds are you won't be able to keep that niche forever; you'll need to adapt over time as conditions change. Time was you could buy base salvage in bulk for pennies, craft base components from that and then sell the components for a hundred or thousand times profit. I have no idea what people were using those components for (self buffs maybe?), but that stopped working when they unified base and invention salvage. I made millions that way, back when millions was real money .There is no one trick to getting rich. The "easiest" way is to just play the game and have fun with your level 50 character, defeating tons of level 50 mobs. One day, when you're least expecting it, a purple recipe will drop and you will become much richer. Or you might just want to use that recipe for yourself. Just make sure your salvage and recipe inventories are never full! |
Inf comes from both play and trade. How much of it comes from play and how much from trade is a personal preference that also reflects on how our characters are built.
As far as the market goes, perhaps it's more a market service than it is a "market scheme". There are many players in the game who prefer the immediate convenience of an offered item than to go through the time and logistics to bid and gather the materials and craft it. In short, crafters and marketeers are earning influence/infamy by taking the time and effort in providing this immediate convenience to other heroes/villians.
As a gamer, it's a boon to give my characters the best advantages they can get so that they can contribute with a team as well as take on things on their own through skilled game play and market play.
I'm not sure about what Fulmens said about 50 hours of play to make money.
I took my wife and ran the AE arc i was talking about. (339055) It's a replica of the BM farm. Took all of 30 minutes for 2 runs at -1x8. She rolled 2 Steadfast Uniques (20 mil apiece crafted), a Regenative Tissue Unique or Proc (can't remember which that one is). 0 selling and ave sell price is 50 mil, 2 Achilles Heel recipes (5 and 20 mil respectively) I got an Impervium Armor Resistance (70-80mil crafted).
So in 30 minutes or so, we made out with close to 200 mil inf in less than 1 hour. Don't know why someone would say it takes 50 hours to make inf farming. Flipping is not the only way to make inf, i promise you. The key is to enjoy making it however, whether you like playing your toons and killing things or shopping and flipping.
I got your PM, but as soon as i clicked to send yesterday, it said the forums were down, so i just put the number in this post. Have fun.
Just now. Ran the AE farm 1.5 times. Got around 2100 tix. Results as follows: (xcluding crap rolls)
Kinetic Combat: acc/dam lev 35
Reactive Armor: end/res, rech/res lev 40
Perf. Shifter: proc lev 50
Steadfast: end/res 30
Touch Of Death: acc/dam lev 40
Thunderstrike: acc/dam, acc/dam/rech lev 50
Crushing Impact: acc/dam/end lev 50
Now those aren't purp or pvp recipes but for someone needing a few million inf, it works. Checking crafted prices atm, those range from 5-15 mil. or so.
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Thanks! I'm gonna try out your AE farm now.
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Originally Posted by eryq2
Just now. Ran the AE farm 1.5 times. Got around 2100 tix. Results as follows: (xcluding crap rolls)
Kinetic Combat: acc/dam lev 35 Reactive Armor: end/res, rech/res lev 40 Perf. Shifter: proc lev 50 Steadfast: end/res 30 Touch Of Death: acc/dam lev 40 Thunderstrike: acc/dam, acc/dam/rech lev 50 Crushing Impact: acc/dam/end lev 50 Now those aren't purp or pvp recipes but for someone needing a few million inf, it works. Checking crafted prices atm, those range from 5-15 mil. or so. |
Virtue
Heroes
50- Fire Kinnnnn (Fire/Kin Controller)
50- Shielded Deity (Elec/Shield Scrapper)
50- Doomaster (Invuln/Fire Tanker)
Villains
50- Farm (SS/SD Brute)
Honestly, you can get "rich" in this game through poor consumer spending discipline, just like real life. Excessive need or faulty logic usually prevail in making a consumer pay an unrealistic or cornered price. Not to mention the patience factor. Best way to put yourself in good financial condition in this game is by landing unique recipes, high demand recipes and high demand salvage. Bid low, post high. It really is easier than it sounds.
A whole bunch of 50's.
Troo, i placed a BAS. GAZE quad up for an unrealistic amount for a lev 21, but the 30 is 3x as high and there are no other ones avail. near that level. We'll see. lol.
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Quick question: What are the best rolls to buy with your tickets in order to get the most money? (Bronze, Silver, or Gold)?
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Originally Posted by eryq2
Just now. Ran the AE farm 1.5 times. Got around 2100 tix. Results as follows: (xcluding crap rolls)
Kinetic Combat: acc/dam lev 35 Reactive Armor: end/res, rech/res lev 40 Perf. Shifter: proc lev 50 Steadfast: end/res 30 Touch Of Death: acc/dam lev 40 Thunderstrike: acc/dam, acc/dam/rech lev 50 Crushing Impact: acc/dam/end lev 50 Now those aren't purp or pvp recipes but for someone needing a few million inf, it works. Checking crafted prices atm, those range from 5-15 mil. or so. |
Virtue
Heroes
50- Fire Kinnnnn (Fire/Kin Controller)
50- Shielded Deity (Elec/Shield Scrapper)
50- Doomaster (Invuln/Fire Tanker)
Villains
50- Farm (SS/SD Brute)
Depends on luck really, since we're rolling and how many tickets you have. Like i said, my situation is different since im running 3 accounts. Although, i mainly just run with 2 most of the time. I do level 10 bronze and 25-35ish silvers. If i only have 3000, i roll a quick gold at 10. If i have more i roll 35-39 gold. But that's me.
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You'll get what you're asking and probably quite a bit more.|
Originally Posted by eryq2
Troo, i placed a BAS. GAZE quad up for an unrealistic amount for a lev 21, but the 30 is 3x as high and there are no other ones avail. near that level. We'll see. lol.
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I have one red-side toon working the whole level spread on a different (proc) recipe, and while the faster-moving top and bottom ones are going for and getting snapped up at premium prices, the whole range in between is up for grabs with patient bids. Just on this proc alone with a login every other day or so, over about 3 months he is well over the 1b mark.
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Update: only one of them sold. But it sold for 60 million. (L50 Celerity Stealth v-side, if you're wondering.) So 26 in, 54 out, still made 28 million. And now you know where to get a "Bargain" on a crafted IO.|
Originally Posted by BalleRyan
That's a good point. I am actually doing this marketeering at WW. But I've been waiting for my enhancement to sell. I'm still trying to find the right recipes to buy, make, and then sell.
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EDIT: or you know how to undercut me. Either way.
Mini-guides: Force Field Defenders, Blasters, Market Self-Defense, Frankenslotting.
So you think you're a hero, huh.
@Boltcutter in game.
Hi:
I tried farming and luck is not my ally, I have farmed for weeks at 3 to 4 hours a day, and all I get is junk, not a single purple.
I gone to AE, and totally demolish scenarios for hours upon hour, and made crazy amounts of tickets. Rolled for Gold, is the only thing that drop are Pacing Of the Turtle or Ghost Widows? In other words, sheer waste of time, with my bad luck, it seems. So I said, forget Golds, try Silver, same sotry I get useless after useless status effect type recipes; more waste of time. At least with Bronse you get lots of drops, so I actually had a chance to get descent stuff to make some good money off from such things as Regenerative Tissue: +Regen, Steadfast KBP, etc. I found this, given my consistent bad luck, a relativley profitable way to go.
What I do, most reliably, are TFs. Adventure enough earn 250 merits and buy a Numina Recharge/Regen, the recipe alone sells for about 180M, crafted for 5M in salvage sell for 250M. Great income, Do a Positron one day, followed by a synapse next day and you make about 150 merits in 2 days, thus in 4 days you got 300 merits, trade 250 and you made yourself about 250M. When you consider you spent 3 hours in Posi and 2.5 in Synapse; you labored for about 6 hours and made 250M. Not bad, when all considered.
By doing this, I have fully IOs set all 15 of my level 50 Lady Heroes and waiting on going Rogue to do the same with my 15 Lady Villains. I don't like the SF income red side, and the expense of stuff, red side, is just stupid.
Incidentally, I have continued TFg with my 15 level 50 alts, and all of them are nearly 200 merits each...
Hugs
Stormy
Sorry bout ya luck, Storm. I farm BM in PI -1x8. I never, ever go weeks at 3-4 hours a day with no purps. I run about 1-2 hours per run and usually get a purp every 5 runs or so.
Saturday, i did the Freakalympics Arc in Oro. I did it 2 times back to back. Took 3 hours and i got 68 Merits. That's 3 rolls. (i can't save up to buy anything)
AE has made me 200mil since saturday. Just selling uncrafted recipes to offload fast. Found some good stuff in the bronze 25-29. Regen Tissue: Regeneration was one. Made 60mil off of that one.
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Right now I'm doing AE and testing my luck with tickets. I'm starting to buy recipes in the 34-39 range and I'm then crafting them and selling the crafted IO. It's kind of a pain though, since I quickly get my recipes full, I end up making a lot of IOs that just don't sell. |
Originally Posted by eryq2
Sorry bout ya luck, Storm. I farm BM in PI -1x8. I never, ever go weeks at 3-4 hours a day with no purps. I run about 1-2 hours per run and usually get a purp every 5 runs or so.
Saturday, i did the Freakalympics Arc in Oro. I did it 2 times back to back. Took 3 hours and i got 68 Merits. That's 3 rolls. (i can't save up to buy anything) AE has made me 200mil since saturday. Just selling uncrafted recipes to offload fast. Found some good stuff in the bronze 25-29. Regen Tissue: Regeneration was one. Made 60mil off of that one. |
I'll probably do a combination of farming at -1 x8 and AE farming the same mission.
Virtue
Heroes
50- Fire Kinnnnn (Fire/Kin Controller)
50- Shielded Deity (Elec/Shield Scrapper)
50- Doomaster (Invuln/Fire Tanker)
Villains
50- Farm (SS/SD Brute)
Balle, you'll find that alot of them aren't worth the time. Or at least to me. If it only sells for a mil or 2, i delete or toss up as just a recipe and get back to the hunt for the bigger fish. I'll lose a mil to make 50 or 100, but that's me.
My best rolls lately have been in the 25-29 range.
What Iron said. Craft asap, whether you keep or sell. I thought i sold one by accident yesterday as i was selling the commons that had dropped, then remembered it was in a bin. Slight heart attack. lol.