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5. Stop ignoring the fact that the game is coded a particular way that overrides your imaginary codes.
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Duel me.
I will work on my sig pic more when I have time.
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A very sad story about War Witch and the neglected kitty. http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=219670
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Guess it's hard to click while actively trying to keep the drool away from the keyboard...
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A very sad story about War Witch and the neglected kitty. http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=219670
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Guess it's hard to click while actively trying to keep the drool away from the keyboard...
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Throw some ings on the end of that stuff and you got it. And I mean it to.
Duel me.
I will work on my sig pic more when I have time.
so gud.
You can try to single duelers out, but the only difference is we like to play our game a little differently. I like to play super smash bros with items off, and so do real tournies with the best players, because items bring in chance. I'm not saying my way is better, it's preference. And if these apply to us at all they also apply to people on your side, as both have bad players.
Some are good at dueling and others warzone. I don't think any of you would be held back to give advice to a dueler even though it's not your speciality.
I somewhat agree with 10, but just don't get angry at all, there are arenas and your taking the risk by not using them (now that they are convient).
The game is coded to allow freedom. If it had dueling rules then all of you would be angry, this way, with no real rules in bound, there is freedom for both sides to play as they want too.
And these joke threads are getting old.
@Sentry4 @Sentry 4
PvP Redux is discontinued, for obvious reasons. Thanks to everyone who helped and joined.
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You can try to single duelers out, but the only difference is we like to play our game a little differently. I like to play super smash bros with items off, and so do real tournies with the best players, because items bring in chance. I'm not saying my way is better, it's preference. And if these apply to us at all they also apply to people on your side, as both have bad players.
Some are good at dueling and others warzone. I don't think any of you would be held back to give advice to a dueler even though it's not your speciality. I somewhat agree with 10, but just don't get angry at all, there are arenas and your taking the risk by not using them (now that they are convient). The game is coded to allow freedom. If it had dueling rules then all of you would be angry, this way, with no real rules in bound, there is freedom for both sides to play as they want too. And these joke threads are getting old. |
Nah, I'm just going stop posting here so it dies. Talk amongst yourselves if you wish too.
@Sentry4 @Sentry 4
PvP Redux is discontinued, for obvious reasons. Thanks to everyone who helped and joined.
Hey, you read it. That's a win in our book. Refusal to actually get out of your little box and play the game as fully as it was meant to be played is only a sign to us that we shouldn't bother holding your opinions on the subject as worthy of our attention.
Also, the "advice" most of us would give to a dueler would be something like "Don't be a tard, use inspirations and kite."
@macskull, @Not Mac | XBL: macskull | Steam: macskull | Skype: macskull
"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
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The game was built to allow freedom, and we're using that. That's why you have options in the arena and why you have a choice to use inspirations in a fight.
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Hey, you read it. That's a win in our book. Refusal to actually get out of your little box and play the game as fully as it was meant to be played is only a sign to us that we shouldn't bother holding your opinions on the subject as worthy of our attention.
Also, the "advice" most of us would give to a dueler would be something like "Don't be a tard, use inspirations and kite." |
@Sentry4 @Sentry 4
PvP Redux is discontinued, for obvious reasons. Thanks to everyone who helped and joined.
No, the options in the arena (no TS, no DR, no HD) were added because the zone variant (TS and HD on) sucks and serious PvPers called the devs on it. The no inspires option? I dunno, maybe a fiteklubber sent someone a fruit basket.
Last time I checked, not using all the tools available to you (moving, inspires, phase/Hibernate, and so on) was restricting your options, which unless I'm greatly mistaken is the opposite of "freedom."
@macskull, @Not Mac | XBL: macskull | Steam: macskull | Skype: macskull
"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
Anyone who tells me NOT to use inspirations, I just reply with SURE! As soon as you turn off your enhancements and set bonuses, I would be happy to not use them! Let's go FiteKlub let's go (boom boom) Let's go.................
Oh! No attacks either. The winner will be the first one to die of boredom and leave the match! Let's petition the devs immediately! New rulz fa PvP!!!
I apologize, I couldn't resist...... inspirations are for winners. And yes, we can all use them! YAY!!
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No, the options in the arena (no TS, no DR, no HD) were added because the zone variant (TS and HD on) sucks and serious PvPers called the devs on it."
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Unless I'm mistaken that's called QQing.... which kinda proves the following point.
You've got one group of PvPers that require a certain build, certain powers and excel at PvP only under certain rules LoL'ing constantly at another group that requires pretty much the same.
Silly me, I rolled toons for both. I'd consider Freedom to be the abilty to do just that.
This Serious PvPer vs. Fiteklubber business is all quite funny.
It's like watching people argue over the quality of steak and burgers without first debating the quality of the cows they come from.
"Situational power? Sure. Although in a sense... all powers are situational. It's just that some situations occur more than others." Understand the situation needed in order for the power to be most effective... and make that situation happen.
You can exercise your freedom to duel in-zone and others will exercise their freedom to kick your *** in-zone even if it is a duel. Welcome to Open World PvP.
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Way to completely miss the mark as well as any of the facts surrounding what I said. During the I13 beta, there was quite a bit of feedback from existing PvPers on why the proposed changes were not going to accomplish the changes the devs wanted to make, and some even offered suggestions to actually accomplish those changes. For the most part, feedback was ignored.|
Originally Posted by Dahjee
Unless I'm mistaken that's called QQing.... which kinda proves the following point.
You've got one group of PvPers that require a certain build, certain powers and excel at PvP only under certain rules LoL'ing constantly at another group that requires pretty much the same. Silly me, I rolled toons for both. I'd consider Freedom to be the abilty to do just that. This Serious PvPer vs. Fiteklubber business is all quite funny. It's like watching people argue over the quality of steak and burgers without first debating the quality of the cows they come from. |
Please find me a "group of PvPers that requires a certain build, certain powers and excel at PvP only under certain rules." In fact, I'll pay your sub for the rest of the time you play the game if you can do that. Now, here are the facts (listen, I know this is hard for you):
* PvP has never required a certain build except in very high-end organized arena team PvP. Why? Under normal circumstances (zone, random arena, etc.) a good player can make just about anything work. In high-end arena, on the other hand, you had two very skilled teams competing against each other, often to the point where a split-second lapse in judgment would mean an 0-1 loss. In situations like that, you needed the very best players playing the very best builds in order to stay competitive. (Note that this kind of PvP doesn't exist anymore, as I13 managed to kill organized arena PvP.)
* PvP has never required you to take or skip certain powers. Of course, PvP is a subset of the whole game, just like farming or AV/GM soloing. You're not going to skip all your AoEs on a farming character because you need to build for the situation at hand. PvP is burst-damage single-target focused, so the best powers for PvP are ones that adhere to that focus. In the case of Phase or Hibernate... no, they're not required, and I'm not going to make fun of someone for not having such a power in their build, but thanks to heal decay and travel suppression the desirability for such powers is exponentially higher than it was in the pre-I13 days.
* PvPers have never required a certain ruleset to "excel." DR on or off, travel suppression on or off, heal decay on or off, I'll do just fine. Of course, high-end PvPers have a preference for arena options simply because they want something as similar as possible to the good PvP this game used to have, not dumbed-down and slowed-down combatants-tied-together-with-rope-and-knives PvP. Again, I realize this is hard for you to understand, so I'll try and get it across in a way you can understand: a good PvPer will do well no matter what the ruleset. In fact, there've been a few times where I asked for no TS/no HD matches against an opponent, won, and they requested a match with TS and HD on... and I won the rematches by even more. Now, of course you'll say "a good PvP will be able to duel without inspirations too" and you'd be right. I've gone through many arena matches without ever using an inspiration simply because I didn't need to. However, PvPers use inspirations because they help to even out situations which would otherwise be clear-cut rock/paper/scissors matches. I go up against something that slows my recharge to a crawl? Okay, I need to kill it fast, so I'll bring reds and try to get the kill before they completely remove my ability to attack... and so on.
Why do the serious PvPers laugh at fiteklubbers? It's quite simple - the fiteklubbers are only limiting themselves by not being open to the variety of tactics that makes PvP interesting. No-inspiration matches are boring and predictable because it's usually clear from the very beginning who will win. Melee vs melee duels (regardless of the settings, or who's playing the characters, really) are just boring because it's two big bags of HP with self-heals hitting each other until someone dies.
Get wrecked.
@macskull, @Not Mac | XBL: macskull | Steam: macskull | Skype: macskull
"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
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Way to completely miss the mark as well as any of the facts surrounding what I said. During the I13 beta, there was quite a bit of feedback from existing PvPers on why the proposed changes were not going to accomplish the changes the devs wanted to make, and some even offered suggestions to actually accomplish those changes. For the most part, feedback was ignored.
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Please find me a "group of PvPers that requires a certain build, certain powers and excel at PvP only under certain rules." In fact, I'll pay your sub for the rest of the time you play the game if you can do that. Now, here are the facts (listen, I know this is hard for you):
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Instead of pointing out that certain builds, powers and rules are required *to* excel at PvP, I misworded that statement and it came out as PvPers in general requiring each. At least, I see how it could have been read as so. Regardless, I find at the very least, in arena you have neither the aid or threat of personal temp powers so one's varied successes through each setting in arena would always be victim to such a rule or dependancy. Not to mention that basic settings (match timer/match type/map/etc...) mean that pretty much 100% of arena matches are bound by more than a few limitations and rules. Open zone anything goes which, is indeed a rule, while fiteklubbers often follow rules as restricting as the arena or more compared to open zone. Bottomline: If you can laugh and refuse one set of rules and one style of PvP... you are admitting that you have a preference and/or dependancy on another.
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Why do the serious PvPers laugh at fiteklubbers? It's quite simple - the fiteklubbers are only limiting themselves by not being open to the variety of tactics that makes PvP interesting. No-inspiration matches are boring and predictable because it's usually clear from the very beginning who will win. Melee vs melee duels (regardless of the settings, or who's playing the characters, really) are just boring because it's two big bags of HP with self-heals hitting each other until someone dies.
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Like many, I moved a few zone PvP toons to Freedom where the action is. I also started making melee toons for zone and duels on Virtue, where the civility remains. Fiteklubbing, from what I can tell from experience.... is a hybrid style of play. While arena promotes endless options for repeatable matches and open zones have fixed limitations that remain the same 24/7, both encourage the use of all that is avalible. Fiteklubbing often requires the agreement to go without even though *it* may be available... whether it's inspiration when in zone or extreme kiting when in arena. (for example) Silly to some but nonetheless requires as much commitment, knowledge, and investment as builds that wish to excel in other styles of play.
Disagreement/Disaproval is simply proof of either ignorance due to nonparticipation, or admittance of envy/jealousy, due to a lack of ability to follow other sets of rules.
Get Wrecked Mac....? No. You get better. If your intention is to become a spokesperson for the PvP community, then start doing so without being stuck on I12 and a diminished High-End Arena PvP class of 2008.
"Situational power? Sure. Although in a sense... all powers are situational. It's just that some situations occur more than others." Understand the situation needed in order for the power to be most effective... and make that situation happen.
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Again, find me that group. Please, I already offered to pay your subscription. Of course I'm not going to approve of a ruleset that cripple's both participants' abilities to fully play their characters, but that might just be the good PvPer in me speaking. If you don't at least take a glance at the ruleset before jumping into a match, you're either naive or a moron. You'll also notice that most of the players who go on and on about fiteklub and how using inspirations is cheating play melee builds. You'll also notice that those melee builds are the ones with gobs of HP, lots of defense or resistance or heals (or a combination thereof), and often respectable damage at range. Of course they want to duel you with inspirations off and travel suppression and heal decay on, because those are the conditions they will most likely win easily under. I prefer to play under a ruleset where player skill still has at least a small impact in the outcome of the match, and which allows a closer match between a wider variety of builds, which is why I refuse to fight without at least the option to use inspirations in case I need to, and why I won't generally fight with TS and HD on (though I've been known to on some occasions).|
Originally Posted by Dahjee
Mac, please. There are just as many "let's go arenaz then!" whiners in open zone as there are "Duel Meh!" whiners in an open zone. Why even speak of an exception if the situation required for it doesn't exist anymore? I call BS. You can say arena goers "prefer" this setting or that setting, but you know as well as I know that you and many others wouldn't begin an arena duel unless you approved of the settings/rules.
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Why do people build specifically for a particular zone? They spend more time there and only have certain powers available and their IO sets need to be a certain level to keep the set bonuses. Same reason a PvEer might build a character for running task forces or flashbacks - build IO sets and pick powers around the target exemplar level. Why do people build differently for zone or arena? Because the parameters are different and you can't just run back to the base in the arena so you need to be able to stay in the fight the entire ten minutes. Same reason people build differently for farming, AV soloing, or general PvE.
FotMs aren't in existence because players need to use them so much as they exist because they are the most effective at what they do. Try farming as effectively as a Fire/Kin on your Ice/Ice Blaster and see what happens. Get what I'm saying here? I did say there exist useless powers and even useless powersets in a certain environment. For example, Sonics and Kins are largely worthless in PvP because much of what those sets do is negated by free base resistance, DR, and travel suppression.You are right in that I'm not speaking in absolutes here, but I am telling you the facts. Fact: certain powers are bad for PvP. Fact: certain powersets are bad for PvP. I could go on, but I'd rather not.
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Again. I think the whole thing is funny because it's just a matter of saying "I can't win that way." However it seems that it's easier to some to simply LoL and make threads to cover up the fact.
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(By the way, I bet you'll never guess how I started PvPing.)
EDIT: Nice job sneaking that last little paragraph on there. However, it's once again proving you need to learn facts before you try to butt heads with me. Read the threads I've started here since I13 about suggestions for improvements to PvP. You'll notice I admit multiple times that I know we're not going to go back to the old system so I'm looking for improvement to the current system. Doesn't sound like being "stuck on I12" or "high-end arena PvP class of 2008" to me.
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"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
There's little need for me to respond since you seem to make excuses and exceptions thoughout your posts that actually prove my very simple points. I mean you're basically repeating them.
Just because you feel strongly that "your" preference is more sound than anothers doesn't mean it will be prefered by all. It doensn't make you Right. It's simply what YOU prefer. Other peoples preferences vary. Other people feel the same as you do about their preferences. Nothing will change this. Why don't you get this?
I have no desire to see you justify why you prefer what you do. I don't care. Im just pointing out that you as well as most PvPers have specific preferences and reasons why they do what they do to succeed... and how it's funny to see them make fun of others who so the same when those preferences differ.
As I said, I have no problem acceptting facts when I see them, but you haven't produced many in this conversation. Claiming something is boring is not a fact. Words like "worthless," "useless," "fun," and "interesting" aren't factual words. Give me a break. I'll believe you're not stuck on I12 when it's reference stops being included in all of your posts regarding PvP. Yes. It does sound like you're still stuck on I12 PvP and High-End arena
"Situational power? Sure. Although in a sense... all powers are situational. It's just that some situations occur more than others." Understand the situation needed in order for the power to be most effective... and make that situation happen.
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Woah can you play smash at tournies after you ban 95% of the games content?
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like to play super smash bros with items off, and so do real tournies with the best players, because items bring in chance
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There's little need for me to respond since you seem to make excuses and exceptions thoughout your posts that actually prove my very simple points. I mean you're basically repeating them.
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* Clarity/Increase Density no longer grant mez protection
* Sonic shields give a squishy maybe 3-4% extra resistance, not enough to stop even an extra attack
* SB and IR are irrelevant when travel suppression is unresisted
* The large Sonic bubble no longer provides mez protection and provides no meaningful resistance boost for its caster
* DR means Transfusion and Transference don't drain much endurance per use
* Siphon Power and Siphon Speed don't have any appreciable effect on their target, nor their caster
* Sonic Disruption detoggles when you get mezzed, and since there's no mez protection that means it'll happen often
Have you ever watched, or participated in, a melee vs melee duel? I have, both of the fiteklub variety (hey, waitaminute, it's almost like that's how I first started PvP!) and the real variety. Melee vs melee duels under almost any ruleset are boring because you're pitting two nigh-unkillable characters against each other and unless there's inspiration usage the outcome will likely be decided before the fight even starts simply by looking at the participants' powersets.
I reference I12 PvP because it's the closest thing we have to the current system. I could reference WoW, or CO, or Aion, and compare those to our current system, but they wouldn't be good comparisons because the systems are so different. I'm not sure if you can focus on actually reading through what I post to see this, but the comparisons I generally make to I12-style PvP are "here's how this aspect was balanced under the old system, here's how it's unbalanced under the current system, and here's how it could be made to be even more balanced than under the old system." In other words, you'll notice that I realize old-style PvP wasn't perfect and had stuff needing to be fixed, and you'll also notice that I spend my efforts trying to improve the current system instead of trying to improve a system which doesn't exist anymore. Lastly, I'm not sure why you insist I'm "stuck" on I12 or the high-end arena crowd as for the most part I wasn't involved in either. My PvP experience started a few months before I13, and I didn't do anything on the arena ladder until after I13. Isn't it indicative of a problem that even though my experience under the old system was limited, I could still tell you things that were better under that one than under this one? Again, this is one of those "know your facts" things, which I understand is hard for you.
@macskull, @Not Mac | XBL: macskull | Steam: macskull | Skype: macskull
"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
Yes Dahjee, its true that peoples preferences differ and I respect that (I think so does Mac). The thing that I dont respect is that when I prefer to play my way (which i have every right because im not breaking the game's rules) and the other player yells, rages, belittles, lectures, and cusses at me for my play style or preference, that's when they need to cool off and realize I've done nothing wrong. Here's the deal, everyplayer has the right and should exercise their right to play however they like to as long as they abide by the mechanic of the game itself and not perform any exploits. Exploits, however, should be determined by the devs not by players. Yes, it's that simple.
Oh and stacked siphon speed and a webnade can still slow anyone, including tanks, down to i12 levels you should test that out mac.
I dunno, I've had slows stacked on me something nasty and as long as I had Super Speed on, it wasn't making a huge difference. If you don't have SS, then sure I can see even a little bit of slow messing with you. I'll be sure and try it out though...
@macskull, @Not Mac | XBL: macskull | Steam: macskull | Skype: macskull
"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."
Siphon Speed is (or at least was) marked as unresistable.
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LotD - JaL - POWT/SMD - SoCo - AJs
Dear Fight Clubbers,
The majority of the time when you post replies to PvP inquiries and questions you provide misleading information. Here are some posting tips for you.
1. Pay attention whether the poster is talking about the Arena, Zone, Fight Club or combinations of these things.
2. If the poster has not mentioned the above in their post then clarify first prior to making specific replies.
3. If your PvP experience is limited to “sitting in the train” dueling, please don’t comment about Arena or Zone PvP.
4. If you want to comment about Arena or Zone PvP then get better in these areas and start using some logic.
5. Stop ignoring the fact that the game is coded a particular way that overrides your imaginary codes.
6. Always remember that the game is coded a particular way that overrides your imaginary codes.
7. Never forget that the game is coded a particular way that overrides your imaginary codes.
8. Keep in mind that the game is coded a particular way that overrides your imaginary codes.
9. When in doubt, tell yourself that the game is coded a particular way that overrides your imaginary codes.
10. When somone attacks you while you're dueling and you become very angry don't blame them, blame the people that coded the game a particular way that overrides your imaginary codes.
Love, Respect and Honor,
Optical_Illusion
A very sad story about War Witch and the neglected kitty. http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=219670