Fight Clubbers Guide To Posting

Don't think there are any debuffs or damage unresisted anymore except some damage procs and the crit part of AS.

who is dahjee and why is he psypunk'ing as if he knew anything?

Any variation of "fight club" in the title of a thread is guaranteed entertainment.

I like the justification for using inspirations to balance play has been brought up a few times in this thread. That may be true in some cases but certainly not all cases. What about the situations where you are fighting an evenly matched opponent? Is popping a big load of pills against an evenly matched opponent just because they got the upper hand the same thing as popping to over come a mismatch? Not to me.

Sure, all players have the same opportunity to carry inspirations as anyone else does. Some players are just not so stuck on the winz that they are willing to leave the zone to restock just to be something they are not. A weak player would spend more time out of the zone than in it to stay stocked up. That just isnt for me. But if that is what you like to do just so you can be an uber player, more power to you I guess. You are right, I too could go to WW or the BM and buy up the big gun inspirations just as easily.

PVP is not balanced as we all know. We are not all created equally and the game does not balance the different ATs well. In many cases the first strike dictates the outcome of a fight as much as anything when two players are evenly matched. There are certainly plenty of ATs and builds out there that I have no counter for or cannot overcome. Perhaps this is the better use of inspirations as suggested by some of the previous posters in this thread.

I think what many people complain about is when they do get the upper hand against an evenly matched opponent or even a weaker opponent that they are sometimes stripped of a victory simply because the the other side had the inspirations in stock to turn the tide. The player who would have won chose not to pop in these situations and offered a fair fight but was denied the victory because of inspirations and only because of inspirations. Inspirations are not skill. Inspirations are not the same as the dedication and time involved in making a truly good build.

I see this a lot in zone play and it is just how it is. I try not to pop in a one versus one fight in open zone play but I will against uneven odds. That is just me and how I play. A silly sense of honor I guess. Winning is not all and it does not bother me that there are superior builds or play styles to mine. So I lose to these players that have the upper hand in either skill or build gracefully. The frustration comes when you lose simply because of inspiration use and nothing else.

Yes I realize that this is my own code that I follow and that not everyone has to do the same. I am grateful there are options in the game such as inspirations and temp powers, it does not deter me from playing when I am faced with such. They will eventually run out of the big o save my weak butt pills at some point and either be forced to leave to restock or be defeated in a fair fight. The real aggravation comes from those who then gloat publicly about such a hollow victory and belittle the other players. We are all just humans, or most of us anyways, behind the toon. We should all show respect and be respected if for nothing else than that. The playful banter is fun but the hateful stuff I see in broadcast is another thing entirely.

** players are just looking for a fair, my build versus your build, fight without external assistance of inspirations. There is nothing wrong with that. And as so many point out the arena is probably the best choice to do this. These players are more than likely evenly matched and it is fun to see who can put together the best build and come up with the best strategy for play to score a win. Inspirations can and do have the ability to completely negate effects of some powers or to produce more defensive capability than what the build truly has. So a test of build versus build, skill versus skill is not possible while using them.

What I can agree with to a ceratin extent... as pointed out by many of those who dislike/despise/dissaprove of fiteklubbing... is the level of balance and predictabilty in melee vs melee duels.

Don't get me wrong. I pride my self on making toons to go against the grain/FoTM just to shake things up when I PVP. (I duel often with a DB/SR brute and a Elec/Elec Brute) I'd be a rich man if I had a nickel for everytime someone assumed I would lose to a /Regen Scrapper in a duel and was wrong. However I do wish there could be more debate on the dynamic of these duels. Like, for example IMO I find most duels I have against a Blaster of equal skill while on my Brute to be down right epic. It becomes vey hard to determine a winner from the start. The same would go for many scrapper vs MM duels, and so on.

I think we see Melee set and Melee set and automatically think that equals a balaned 1 v 1 fight when often the "kings of Melee hand to hand scrapper" have the fight won before it starts.

Like I said, just observations that I wish could be discussed by the smart people here... but since the height if intellegence here seems to stop at "Fiteklubbing is bad." I don't see that discusion appening anytime soon.

I think Eppy and barrier fight club on the down low. Everybody knows about yall's "secret" accounts.

As much **** was everyone gives chido one. He' has a **** ton of HP. And probolly one of the hardest people to take down in RV. For that i give him props. Even though he runs back to base when hes almost dead lol.

I also noticed that HE does not really work on the big guy. Either he runs back to base before i notice it...or he just has REALLY good end recovery. (or getting buffed)

So I used to play a lot of Warhammer 40k. It's a miniatures battle game for those that aren't familiar with it. This was a long time ago, and the rules had "interesting" elements. We wanted to play more competitively in certain ways, and so crafted a number of house rules to further our collective competitive play. Now days I look back and see the game differently. It was what it was, and I would now rather play it for what it was than play it for what we wanted to be.

Does that make me 15 years ago wrong? Does that make me right now? Hindsight isn't 20/20, it's looking at something completely different. That was the game I wanted to play then (and had valid reasons for wanting to do so) and the other is the game I want to play now. That's really all there is to it, and all that should be said.

Each style of the game has different challenges and different appeals, people talking about one or the other style would have widely differing viewpoints about the quality of various choices in the game and they would disagree on a number of assessments. There is no right or wrong, there is only what we are looking to get out of it. Arena rules or zone rules or fightclub rules or anything else are personal choices on which game you want to play.

Yelling at each other about anything arising from this difference of opinion is probably a waste of time, as it will most likely just result in more work for me.