Katana vs. Broad (vs. Claws).


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Well, so:

I'm playing a scrapper form a mount and i love that toon. I'm fire/ and coniser it a good pool. But offcourse has its limits: u can't kill a well builded (and well played) /fiery aura brute (or tank.. most of times scrapper also).

So i'm tinking to make a second regen toon ... with same build and same gameplay (exept for minors details.. offcourse with sworlds u have parry and haven't dot so gampplay will be a little different) ...

But i can't decide betwheen broad or katana... and i' considering claws too.

About broad and katana: ppl usually say broad is better but...why? Katana is faster (and with a comunable - def debuff this could make the difference) .. offcourse has less damage on single hit but,if u make counts, it hase more damage/time.

Broad seems really good for zones.. but i want a full duel toons this time.. for zones ill continue with my fire/.


And now about claws: claws is a strange pool. Got lot of damage/time and allow u to take only 4 powers from ur primary.. could be good.


Any suggestion?


(Elec/elec must be good also But i love dps.. draining not so mutch).


 

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yeah i suggest

1. you don't quit after i kill you once in an arena match.
2. don't cry about insps when i told you i was gonna be popping them like the mf beast i am.
3. re-roll your regen, it lowers your iq.


 

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Originally Posted by black_barrier View Post
yeah i suggest

1. you don't quit after i kill you once in an arena match.
2. don't cry about insps when i told you i was gonna be popping them like the mf beast i am.
3. re-roll your regen, it lowers your iq.

Completely unrelated story to anything in this thread. There is this guy who I always help with build advice on the forums. We meet in game and he proceeds to tell me what a bad player I am and how I have no skills. I explain to him who I am and he says we wil amke sure to never take my advice again. Some time goes by, mr to good to take my advice shows on his fire regin and declares to be the greatest pvper in game and looking for serious duelers only. I do a dickmove, and grab my elec therm. After the first kill he says he won't do the duel on that toon and to let him switch. I let him grab a ss/elec brute and he still loses.


Things to learn from this story. The fire regin guy is bad, and stuck never getting advice from me again. Well played propvp guy.



Also, nice to see you are minding your p's and q's now that they let you back barrier. You set a standard I try to live up to.




Oh and regin really does kill brain cells. This game should have a warning label for it.





Edit: the more I read the op the more I laugh. Wanting a toon to duel with when you have a fire regin. Thats some classic stuff.


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Oh and regin really does kill brain cells. This game should have a warning label for it.

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So untrue. Regin can't be bet. It's the ones who don't realize that their toons have huge dilz and can't be bet that lack brain cells. Seriously, you can NEVER die in 1v1s on a regen, now that slows and mez powers are so ineffective.

To the poster: stay Fire/Regin. It's the besterest for regens now that Spines and MA are meh. MA is probably still the second best.


 

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Originally Posted by YO SON I GOT DORITOS View Post
So untrue. Regin can't be bet. It's the ones who don't realize that their toons have huge dilz and can't be bet that lack brain cells. Seriously, you can NEVER die in 1v1s on a regen, now that slows and mez powers are so ineffective.

To the poster: stay Fire/Regin. It's the besterest for regens now that Spines and MA are meh. MA is probably still the second best.
everything can be "bet"


 

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everything can be "bet"

yeah, ok.


 

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yeah, ok.
true story.


 

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Arena with insp is too noob to be exposed.

Dude go home and hide urself under ur bed.


About ConFlict, more,lot more, serious player , ... well i don't like ur gameplay. U use all triks in game for win (teleport to stalkers, sometimes to drones etc..)...


And well, i think this is "the lamers way". U are smart for sure, but an mmorpg is skill and reflexes based in my opinion, others is legalized cheats.

Nothing vs u as person... i simply hate ur gameplay (ur arena toon is a /therm ... this says more that what i can say in years about ur gameplay..).




But anyway, here we are talking about scrapper .. and for sure i don't accept any suggestion about it from a teleporter dom / elec/thermal guy... and,expecially, from a noob who plays arena setting it with no heal penality and spamming insp...

So plz, serious suggestion or simply quite.


 

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aneurysm alert.


 

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but an mmorpg is skill and reflexes based in my opinion,
No, that would be a first person shooter. A mmorpg is based on loot, game knowledge, and luck. In that order. Game knowledge usually is #1, and it was for CoH, but that was changed in I13.

As far as your OP, claws is a complete joke. And BS is better than katana. But fire is at least as good as those, so you should just stick with fire.

And conflict, I'd love to know who that pro player is lol. Sounds really pro.

Lastly, I agree that regin can't be bet. I've been saying this for like 4 years in the zones on a regular basis, and in these FOUR YEARS, I think there was like ONE total time when someone in the zones actually recognized the phrase lol. Every single other time (and it has to be many hundreds of times), people chime in with something like "no way! regen can totally be beaten by so and so".

Sigh...


 

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I hate to say it because I love PvP, but the intelligence levels in these threads is far surpassed by the "carebear" threads.

On a serious note, I've only heard good things about Fire/Regen in terms of PvP because most players do not focus on Fire Defense/Resists. Also, as stated earlier multiple times, Regen is godly in PvP if played correctly because of, well, your massive Regen. Stick with your Fire/Regen and you'll do fine.


 

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This thread is full of win.


 

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Broad has more dpa than katana, but katana is faster.

They both have a move to increase your melee defense (parry and divine avalanche).

Throw claws out completely, because claws only is more of a dps set instead of a dpa set, you have to get a good attack chain off for claws to work, which probably won't happen often.

The thing that Katana has over broad is it's double crit., other than that broad is better.

Your fire/regen, should be good enough, u won't have as much melee defense.

The great thing about fire/ is it's dot, i can't count how many times i pop incinerate then gfs when their hp is low. They start to run and eventually die (if their hp was low enough and didn't heal for some reason) due to the dot of incinerate.


 

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the player asking the question is horrible. lolanswers.


 

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Originally Posted by Alexandros View Post
Arena with insp is too noob to be exposed.

Dude go home and hide urself under ur bed.


About ConFlict, more,lot more, serious player , ... well i don't like ur gameplay. U use all triks in game for win (teleport to stalkers, sometimes to drones etc..)...


And well, i think this is "the lamers way". U are smart for sure, but an mmorpg is skill and reflexes based in my opinion, others is legalized cheats.

Nothing vs u as person... i simply hate ur gameplay (ur arena toon is a /therm ... this says more that what i can say in years about ur gameplay..).




But anyway, here we are talking about scrapper .. and for sure i don't accept any suggestion about it from a teleporter dom / elec/thermal guy... and,expecially, from a noob who plays arena setting it with no heal penality and spamming insp...

So plz, serious suggestion or simply quite.
Dude, how do you expect anyone to read that?


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Dude, how do you expect anyone to read that?

I caught the part about how I play to win. I like how he thinks that means a bad thing.


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Divine Avalanche and Parry are pretty pointless on /Regen scrappers. Don't take either.

A. They severely reduce your damage output while in melee.
B. They are totally useless against all ranged attacks.
C. You are a /Regen, you don't need defense. Use heals. As a /Regen scrapper, your strong point is defensive play. You don't need to gain more defensive power by taking a Parry Power.

Focus on increasing the effectiveness of your offensive abilities - you are set on defense.

Fire melee will be the most consistent DPS/burst damage set. Take Scorch (way faster than fire sword, and potential for much more DPS), Cremate, Build Up, Confront (the -75% range is beastly), and Incinerate if you have room for it.

Incinerate actually does less damage than cremate - so it's best used on an opponent with aid self or other interruptable powers. It's also nice to use before you start a built up attack chain.


 

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Originally Posted by YO SON I GOT DORITOS View Post
A. They severely reduce your damage output while in melee.
B. They are totally useless against all ranged attacks.
C. You are a /Regen, you don't need defense. Use heals. As a /Regen scrapper, your strong point is defensive play. You don't need to gain more defensive power by taking a Parry Power.
I'm pretty sure this guy is looking for a strictly fite klub build. Normal logic need not apply.


 

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Its amazing how reginitis and fiteklubitis seem to go hand in hand. The sad thing is now a days its getting so widespread they should have their own telethon to help raise funds to fight it.


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its amazing how reginitis and fiteklubitis seem to go hand in hand. The sad thing is now a days its getting so widespread they should have their own telethon to help raise funds to fight it.
lmfao


 

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The term "Regin" was actually coined by some of the oldest and most skilled players in the game. Fightclubbing is a different spectacle entirely.


 

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Its amazing how reginitis and fiteklubitis seem to go hand in hand. The sad thing is now a days its getting so widespread they should have their own telethon to help raise funds to fight it.
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omFg


Good to see you and thanks for the epic lulz Xury.


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The term "Regin" was actually coined by some of the oldest and most skilled players in the game. Fightclubbing is a different spectacle entirely.
take your srs bsns elsewhere.


 

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I seen a dude Incinerate' (fire/Regen) beat a fiery brute.

People take PVP way to personally. With enough time on Mids and a ton of Influence I think anything can be defeated. Try not and hate to much, people get all kinds of fluxored when they hit the arena or PVP floor. Everybody at some point or another has an excuse for a defeat, if you loose its not the end of the world and you don't need to have a melt down or temper tantrum on broadcast after. I also think that using inspirations is not noob, use the tools necassary to win, plus it makes pvp so much more interesting. .02

Back on topic: I think BS and Katana both have there strong points and it comes down to play style. A ton of fast mid power hits can be better then strong slower clicks.

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