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Aside from the horns wings and tail he is also apparently completely hairless and has a human nose and mouth in case you didn't mention those things to GrainGnome already. It really looks like he just glanced at what you sent him and then proceeded to draw a generic demon. It still looks cool, it's just not very "Caemgen-ish (tm )."
Yeah... But in hoping to get changes I figured it was best to pick my fights on this one... I think with proper horns and tail this will at least be a Caemgen picture. More along the lines of the early ones before you got me being more forceful but at least a Caemgen picture.
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I don't think you should give up on him (and don't even think about killing him off!) until you have tried submitting a full on character ref with detailed images and then seeing how it goes.
He's actually the one I'm least likely to give up on... But he is the most frustrating one to get done and get done right. And it was a frustrating day to begin with. If I did retire Caemgen it would be a retire, not a kill... Can't go killing off my namesake!! And even then it would be to just pull him out for the real top quality artists who I believed could really pull him off... But I'm coming to think those are fewer and farther between than I used to.
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If you are having difficulty finding someone who understands Caemgen to draw you up some detailed refs, you know I'll help you out buddy.
Thanks... but dude, I impose on you enough trying to get advice on how to describe to others on how to fix him

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What exactly is involved in a character bible sheet, Suichiro?
My understanding is something basically along the lines of:

(image redacted becuase it was expanding width of page and example has been made...)

Simple line art drawings of the character with all the details simply shown. Basically a clean and easy to read reference of the character so someone like me doesn't need to include a book of notes about how the character is different from the screenshots provided...


 

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What exactly is involved in a character bible sheet, Suichiro?
They're not super-involved but they are the standard for concept art. Usually a three point turnaround, and maybe a front and side bust shot and voila, done. Any complicated details can be pointed out or highlighted, but a picture's worth a thousand words. As McKinney said after he finished mine and Planet Girl's a few years ago... "If the artist still get the details wrong with the model sheets as references they're either lazy or dumb."

I had mine done a few years ago and it's been a small investment that's saved me alot of cash, time, and headaches. Brandon McKinney did mine and Planet Girl's. I believe Comrade Hero got his done by Graver.


 

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The latest pic to roll in is by Freyals from Deviant Art - This was a gift commission in exchange to donating to her Relay For Life, Cancer Council fundraiser... (not sure I think it's a gift when money was sent somewheres but I was happy to have extra incentive to donate to a very worthy cause!)

Anyway, the art can pretty much speak for itself, for full view please check out my DA page...


 

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As McKinney said after he finished mine and Planet Girl's a few years ago... "If the artist still get the details wrong with the model sheets as references they're either lazy or dumb."
Most likely lazy.


 

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The latest pic to roll in is by Freyals from Deviant Art - This was a gift commission in exchange to donating to her Relay For Life, Cancer Council fundraiser... (not sure I think it's a gift when money was sent somewheres but I was happy to have extra incentive to donate to a very worthy cause!)

Anyway, the art can pretty much speak for itself, for full view please check out my DA page...
Um, golly! That is definitely a good looking... navel.

Only flaw I see is that her legs are too short for the rest of her.

But, heck, I'm not an artist, really... I'm a massage therapist.

Be Well!
Fireheart


 

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And the new art just keeps rolling in...

Here is another take on Fenian by Spidey0318 - He was running a pretty good deal so I gobbled up a ton of spots to give away to people who had LONG OVERDUE gift arts coming... Who knows, those gift arts may or may not come in some day but I just hate... well, not owing people but promising and not delivering? *shrug* anyway, after giving away the spots to the longest overdue I had a couple left so I treated myself


 

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........"Thanks... but dude, I impose on you enough trying to get advice on how to describe to others on how to fix him "............
It's not imposing if I volunteer my help now is it? ...and you didn't ask for any of those drawings (as I recall).
I just thought them the easiest way to convey to the other artists what was amiss.

Besides I don't think you're going to stop acquiring artz any time soon so a good turn around sheet
should cut down on these kinds of problems in the first place.



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Yeah well I suck at accepting gifts, always have but while I didn't ask for the horn sketches to help other artists get it right, I did ask for more general help on how to explain it pffffft!

As fot stopping acquiring, I am trying to slow down a bit at least I actually do intend to try to not order more until I get some turn arounds but I do still have over a dozen artists with orders pending... (15 I think? And I actually expect 12 to fulfil the orders...)

But if you REALLY wanted to help out with the turnarounds I certainly wouldn't stop ya!! Though you may find yourself costarring in some future arts.... (like that was farfetched anyway...)


 

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New stuffs... Actually most has been kicking around a little bit and I'm finally getting around to posting it

Nahid, aka Liber-Logos, jumped into our little forum in this thread here and offered to doodle up a couple of my trio, that thread resulted in them doing art for Fenian and Alpha... Besides loving both, I have a big problem with not having a complete set from an artist, so I finally hired them to do Caemgen (Liber-Logos DA page is here)


Next up is two pieces by the wonderful Studio-Gemblee - And they're Irish so you KNOW they have to be good! :P I don't have the full set yet but the third is in the works but I've gotten tired of not sharing these two... If you like these at all you should definitely check her out. Not only were the prices all right (even if they were those funny Euro things!) but I must say I got a lot more than expected...



Lastly up (but not leastly) is a colorizing...

Perhaps you remember the Jirogam pics I got a bit back, perhaps not... Anyway, I went a bit of an odd route and split up the colorizing. The solo pics are still being worked on by another colorist but our own Eddy Swan did the Trio pic... Normally I wait and let Eddy post the colorized versions in his own thread but I'm too impatient today :P


Full sized versions of all will be going up in my DA page soonishly...


 

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Gratzzz Caemgen!! Those turned out nice! I like the bedhead look of Caemgen and Fenian by Studio-Gemblee.


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WOOT WOOT!

Even more new art just in! I debated holding this one back for a few days just so as not to steal any thunder the other pieces may have but I'm just loving this new piece too much!!

I was very lucky a couple of weeks ago to have seen NeMAfronSPAiN's journal soon after he posted it since he was saying that he was open for three commissions... I jumped on that as quickly as I could!! I'd have loved to have snatched up all three spots but I'm not THAT lucky I did get one though....

Carlos Gomez was absolutely fantastic to work with and seemed eager and willing to have as much back and forth as required to get the picture right. Of course since he's so good it actually didn't take all that much

And before anyone even tries to nitpick Caemgen's horns, I have no doubt he would have gotten them exact if I so much as mentioned anything about them but I think the way he did them fit so perfectly with the rest of the picture that doing so never even crossed my mind...

Anyway, here is the art...


I'll have the full sized file up on my DA page in a few minutes and if you like the above I totally suggest you check it out full sized so you can get all the details

The only, very very minor, regret I have about the finished work I have is that the smoke in the final version blocks one of my favorite details which was in the final sketch... This cutout if from that sketch, it's from the area now covered by smoke which was just to the right of Fenian...



And Vex, before you ask... I have no idea who I am going to have color this


 

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Been watching Nema for some time. His style is very similar to Humberto Ramos.


 

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Not sure who that is but if he's anywhere near as good as NeMa I'll have to check him out...


 

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HOLY CRAP, CAEMGEN!! That piece is totally AWESOME!!! GRATZZZ!! Now choose your colorist and GET IT DONE!


~*~VexXxa~*~
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Very sweet piece there Caem! Looks beautiful as a sketch, I can only imagine how that would look as a finished piece!

Gratz!


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You have lots of great art of late. The NeMa one in particular is awesome, I had to fave that. There is something gripping about pure comic-style art.

I'm glad you found he doesn't mind discussing the progress, I've been worried whether my ongoing discussion might be getting too picky.



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Newest colorizations are in... Here is Eddy-Swan's colors on the Sanchez busts:





btw - for those curious, my NeMA art is going to be colored by Nei Ruffino


 

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I kinda hate you now...a little bit...

is that wrong?


 

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I kinda hate you now...a little bit...

is that wrong?
Meep?? What I do now??

But no worries, I've always believed everyone hated me anyway. If they didn't, why aren't they giving me cookies???


 

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Fenian and Caemgem portraits look ace.

And congrats on the Nei coloring


 

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Is Nei more open to commissions lately or are you and Kat just working with her pals? She usually seems very anti-commission.


 

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Is Nei more open to commissions lately or are you and Kat just working with her pals? She usually seems very anti-commission.
She mentioned to me that her next two weeks were very open (this a couple days ago) so I think I may have just hit her up at the right time

Though if anyone is looking to get her to work on something, now is probably a good time to approach her!


@Neko - Thanks! And thanks!

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