Cats Hour Challange - Part II

IMO bosses aren't worth the extra time they take to kill, nor the extra risk they pose to squishier farmers. Of course, if you can safely solo them and have both enough AoE and single-target damage to dispatch bosses and the rest of the spawn quickly, they might be worth it on the off chance they'd drop a pool C/D recipe.

Character : Velocity Rift (Elec/Shield/Body Scrapper)
Settings : +2/x8/Bosses Enabled/No AV's
Mission : Close Dimensional Ruptures (Council Empire, 3 full runs and the beginning of a 4th)

Starting amount : 462,135,424

Influence from Kills : 22,067,434
Influence from drops : 3,013,462
Total Influence gained : 25,080,896

Ending amount : 487,216,320

Final time was 59:59

What was *not* recorded :

Zone times
Travel times to and from Unai and Ghost falcon (Only one trip to GF at the end)
(Figure it varies from person to person and which travel power is being used)

What was included :
Time spent defeating foes.
Time spent at the vendors selling things I didn't intend to keep.

What was left over :
2 Diamonds
2 Magical conspiracy's
1 Pangean Soil

1 Blessing of Zephyr Universal Travel
1 Doctored Wounds Heal
1 Coercive Pursasion Acc/Confuse/Rech

Time to complete the first run 17:24

Villains defeated : 1,249 (20.82 per minute)
119 Bosses
345 LT's
785 Minions

Inspirations used : 584

*edit* Looking back over the other posts... mine seems really high? Data was taken from Hero Stat's. But the start and finish numbers for influence were accurate as I copied them directly from in game. After running an extra map with everything reset, it does show about 22.2 Million influence per hour with a 17:30 completion time on a +2/x8/Bosses Council map. *shrug*

I would think that marketing doesnt count in these hour challenges mainly because vendoring and defeating create influence and marketing just shuffles it around.

Is anyone doing these runs while on a team, even with their second accounts?

I've been experiencing some really odd effects if I am on a TF or AE team. The game seems to be counting it as being "exemplared" for purposes of bonus inf. It may be some odd interaction with the patch today giving level 50s "double" inf while exemplared.

I explicitly attempted to exemplar via AE missions to level 49 on my 50 scrapper in order to get double influence. It did not work and I received normal influence.

Just finished a run on my (50) Kat/WP Scrapper (+1/8/NoBosses/NoAVs). Here is the data I collected:

Vendor Values are for Enhancements, Salvage, and Recipes. Inspirations are included in the drop list, but were not factored into the influence earned.

Defeats Minion Lieut. Boss Under. Pet Grey Unknown
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776 485 63 0 0 0 37 191
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Inf from Defeats: 7,209,763
Inf from Vendor: 1,870,200
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Total: 9,082,963

Drops: 
Auroral Particle Bombardment	                  3
Awaken	                                          3
Boron Exposure	                                  2
Bounce Back	                                  4
Break Free	                                          3
Catch a Breath	                                  50
Ceramic Armor Plate	                          10
Chaos Theorem	                                  1
Chronal Skip	                                  1
Dramatic Improvement	                          13
Energy Weapon	                                  3
Enrage	                                          40
Focused Rage	                                  19
Gold	                                                  4 
Good Luck	                                          6 
Hydraulic Piston	                                  10
Insight	                                          42
Invention: Accuracy (Recipe)                   4
Invention: Damage (Recipe)	                  2
Invention: Interrupt Duration (Recipe)	  1
Invention: Knockback Distance (Recipe)	  1
Invention: Range (Recipe)	                  3
Invention: Recharge Red. (Recipe)	          3
Invention: Resist Damage (Recipe)	          2
Invention: Snare Duration (Recipe)	          1
Keen Insight	                                  16
Kinetic Weapon	                                  12
Luck	                                                  15
Mathematic Proof	                                  4
Photonic Weapon	                                  1
Pneumatic Piston	                                  1
Polonium Irradiation	                          3
Respite	                                          46
Rugged	                                          3
Silver	                                                  8
Sturdy	                                          23
Synthetic Intelligence Unit	                  1
Take a Breather	                                  13
Temporal Analyzer	                          12
Temporal Tracer	                                  3
Titanium Shard	                                  5
Vanguard Merit	                                  85
Xenon Exposure	                                  1

I figured it out. It's got nothing to do with being exemplared. My mistake was assuming that was what was different. It's not. What's different is that the new rules for double XP (or XP = inf) apply to level 50s full time, exemplared or not.

I am earning 2.42x as much inf for +2 minions as I was earning before today's patch and 1.83x as much for +2 LTs.

Edit: Running my DDD through the same map, I'm making 30% more inf/minute than I was making on double XP weekend.

Character : Shadow Sentinel (DM/SD No epic)
Settings : +2/x8/Bosses Enabled/No AV's
Mission : Close Dimensional Ruptures (Council Empire, 3 full runs)

Starting amount : 365,869,171

Influence from Kills : 19,928,944
Influence from drops : 3,843,157
Total Influence gained : 23,772,101

Ending amount : 389,641,272

Final time was 1:00:14

What was *not* recorded :

Zone times
Travel times to and from Unai and Ghost falcon (Only one trip to GF at the end)
(Figure it varies from person to person and which travel power is being used)

What was included :
Time spent defeating foes.
Time spent at the vendors selling things I didn't intend to keep.

What was left over :
1 Essence of Furies
1 Rikti Alloy

1 Crushing Impact Acc/Dmg
1 Mako's Bite Acc/Dmg

Time to complete the first run 19:51

Villains defeated : 1,104 (18.32 per minute)
117 Bosses
285 LT's
702 Minions

Inspirations used : 463

*Note* Not SK'ing, Exemping, joining a team, etc etc. All was done solo, one account and all that.

Character: Narcine (Elec/Shield Scrapper)
Setting: +0/x8/NoBosses/NoAVs
Task: Council America Map, ran 6 times like a headless chicken in 1 hour.

a) Inf from Enemy Kills: 13,056,133
b) Inf from Vendor Sales: 4,520,327
c) Total: 17,576,460

What does "running like a headless chicken" mean? Simple, jump into a spawn, let loose fireball, thunderstrike, either shield charge or lightning rod (with build up if available) and move on to the next spawn, don't spend more than 10 seconds doing "cleanup" (fire, 3, 4 single target attacks max).

I was able to run it 6 times like that, leaving the odd Lt. that ran away or got lucky behind.

Dropstats data follows:

Inf. Rewards 1,787 (13,056,133 inf, 0 xp, 0 debt)
1,172 minions
615 LTs & snprs

60 Pool A recipes (Mob Defeats)
4 rare recipes
Mako's Bite: Acc/Dam (Recipe)
Performance Shifter : Chance for +Endurance (Recipe)
Performance Shifter : Chance for +Endurance (Recipe)
Touch of the Nictus: Heal (Recipe)
12 uncommon recipes
Adjusted Targeting : To Hit Buff/Rech (Recipe)
Cleaving Blow: Acc/Dam (Recipe)
Cleaving Blow: Dam/Rech (Recipe)
Doctored Wounds: Heal/Rech (Recipe)
Efficacy Adaptor : End Mod (Recipe)
Efficacy Adaptor : Rech/Acc (Recipe)
Essence of Curare: Acc/Hold/Rech (Recipe)
Kinetic Crash : Knockback/Dam (Recipe)
Kinetic Crash : Knockback/Dam (Recipe)
Lethargic Repose: Sleep/Range (Recipe)
Nightmare: Acc/Fear/Rech (Recipe)
Titanium Coating: Resistance (Recipe)
44 common recipes

1 Pool E recipes (Costume Pieces)
Costume Piece: Cherubic wings

EDIT: Oh yeah, and 4 pieces of rare salvage.

Lots of drops, but I'm not sure if this is the best setting, I'll have to try x3 again now that Shield Charge has been upped.

EDIT AGAIN: So that I don't monopolize the thread. The new Shield Charge does indeed rock.

Character: Narcine (Elec/Shield Scrapper)
Setting: +3/x8/NoBosses/NoAVs
Task: Council America Map, ran 4 times in 1 hour.

a) Inf from Enemy Kills: 24,487,746
b) Inf from Vendor Sales: 3,498,381
c) Total: 27,986,127

Inf. Rewards 1,359 (24,487,746 inf, 0 xp, 0 debt)
836 minions
523 LTs & snprs

44 Pool A recipes (Mob Defeats)
1 very rare recipes
Absolute Amazement: Rech/Acc (Superior) (Recipe)
3 rare recipes
Call of the Sandman: End/Sleep (Recipe)
Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control : Chance for Build Up (Recipe)
Malaise's Illusions: End/Confuse (Recipe)
5 uncommon recipes
Cleaving Blow: Dam/Rech (Recipe)
Essence of Curare: Acc/Rech (Recipe)
Perfect Zinger: Taunt (Recipe)
Perplex: Acc/Rech (Recipe)
Red Fortune: Def/Rech (Recipe)
35 common recipes

4 Pieces of rare salvage.

At that rate it would take less than 80 hours to hit the inf cap... Not even counting sales. It's also the second time I get a purple recipe during a run that had very close to the lowest expected value of recipe drops.

Shield of Archeron(Elec/SD Brute)

Ran a MA mission set to +1/8 with customs minions and lts with council bosses.

The first run I basically cleared the mission and earned 10,283,007 and capped tickets maybe half way through.

The second and third run I decided to run straight to the room with the large spawn and just clear it to maximize tickets. Infamy earned was 3,830,731 and 4,000,606. Capping tickets on each run.

Total infamy was 18,114,344.

Character : Flame Fencer (Fire/Shield/Blaze Scrapper)
Settings : +2/x8/Bosses Enabled/No AV's
Mission : Close Dimensional Ruptures (Council Empire, 3 full runs)

Starting amount : 794,130,432

Influence from Kills : 19,578,756
Influence from drops : 3,999,328
Total Influence gained : 23,578,084

Ending amount : 817,708,516

Final time was 1:02 approx. Spent a bunch of time chatting so easily under 1 hour if I just spent all the time farming. Time includes zoning and selling (WW teleporter and Ouro for the win!)

Stuff I didn't sell
Fortunata Hypnosis Chance to Placate
2 Rikti Alloy
2 Diamonds
1 Chronal Skip
1 Essence of the Furies

No other notable set recipe that I didn't either delete or just vendor

Time to complete the first run 19:00 flat (concentrated and didn't chat)

It's interesting to compare my data with MrLiberty and Aliana's. 25M seems to be the breakpoint (assuming 3 runs) using that particular map and a shield scrapper. Mine is nicely IO'ed and sitting at +72% recharge.

I'm going to see if another map is faster and will probably try to open up Harley's Demon farm.

Also, could we just set a fixed rate for rare salvage to include in our calculations. I know most of them can fetch anywhere from 500k - 3M, with the median being 1 - 1.5M. How does 700k for each piece of salvage sound? That's on the low end of average.

Things I've learned from this thread:

1. Even though I selected this map because I'm a blaster and have no status protection, it happens to be the best map to farm.
2. Yes, shield charge actually got a buff... I was assuming that was some kind of forum joke like the jump kick thing.
3. +3x8 is better then +1x8.

Character : Chris Novak (Fire/Kin/Stone)
Settings : +2/x8/No Bosses/No AV's
Mission : Close Dimensional Ruptures (Council Empire)

Starting amount : 555,915,904

Influence from Kills : 22,639,125
Influence from drops : 3,723,563
Total Influence gained : 26,362,688

Ending amount : 582,278,592

Final time was 59:56


What was left over :
1 Diamonds
1 Prophecy

1 Blessing of Zephyr Universal Travel
1 Gaussian's To hit Buff
1 Red Fortune Def/Rech

Time to complete the first run 13:12

Villains defeated : 1,703 (28.41 per minute)
0 Bosses
622 LT's
1081 Minions

Inspirations used : 529

* Interesting side note! Looking back over the powers used stats, the only healing used over the course of the hour was 5 Earth's Embrace, no transfusions, the rest coming from clearing the first row of inspirations as they dropped.

*edit* Didn't see FF's post before I posted mine.

Character : Loveable Teddy (fire/fire tank)
Settings : +1/x8/No Bosses/No AV's
Mission : Gauntlet of Doom (my custom AE arc, uses zoso freak map with customs that all rez)

Influence per run for defeats: 2.69 million
foes defeated : ~338
time to complete ( reach 750 tickets earned then hit glowie ) : 7-9 minutes

set at 0/x8 (did this setting three times)
Influence per run for defeats: 1.77 million
foes defeated : ~840
time to complete ( reach 750 tickets earned then hit glowie ) : 7-9 minutes

set at -1/x8
Influence per run for defeats: 1.43 million
foes defeated : ~1170
time to complete ( reach 750 tickets earned then hit glowie ) : 12-14 minutes

total influence : 9.43 million in ~50 minutes
Also earned 7500 tickets.

Here I was mostly figuring out what setting would work best for me, and that seems to be the +1/x8 option. Extrapolating that run it would be:

Influence per run for defeats: 2.69 million x6 16.19 million
with 8000 tickets earned.

It seems one would lose 7 million earned in defeats for using custom mobs, but then you have 8000 tickets that will not necessarily generate influence into the system, but it will likely allow you to roll for alot of stuff that will get you influence on the market.

I would speculate that rolling 8000 tickets worth of bronze rolls will net you 30-50 million minimum or you could try the safe route with rare salvage and get 14 of them to sell at 1.5 ish million for 21 million.

Howdy, Catwhoorg.

1 hour. 3 paper missions in PI. Sold junk at contact between missions.

Total inf earnings: 14512333
Items kept:
Recipes: 1 Purple, 3 uncommon
Salvage: 2 rare

EDIT: Time tracked was start of first mission to end of third mission. Included travel and selling time.

EDIT2: Right after this, I was invited to an arena match. Got a Panacea: Heal. Sold for 338mil. I put it up for 250 inf.

Ran my DM/Shield Scrapper through the Battle Maiden map (+3,x8, no bosses)
Inf Gained from Kills - 15,384,312 inf
22 Recipes - 15 common, 6 uncommon, 1 rare - 1,490,875 inf
71 Salvage - 53 common, 15 uncommon, 3 rare - 43,250 inf
10 SO's - 141,796 inf

Total Inf = 17,060,233

My first run

SS/fire brute with some IOs, but certainly not optimized for farming

Was trying Rikti set for 4/+0 level bosses enable

a) Mob influence 1 870 195 (plus worked off 264 000 debt)
b) Drops: 1 132 181
11 common 2 uncommon recipes
25 common 8 uncommon salvage
4 SO

c) Total 3 002 376

The 2 recipes were good for uncommons
Crushing Impact and a Doctored wounds, each of which should net 2-3 million or so after crafting costs.

<edit>
durn ran in SG mode.. Probably should double that mob inf.

While Cat wants the high end, since I was the low end last time, I am here to establish the low end.

Again, I hauled out The SuXX0r, my Mind/FF troller, set to -1/6 heroes, no bosses in an effort to gain more rolls per hour.

The good news is I flipped a purple while killing. The bad news is I did worse than last time in raw kills. This was run in SG mode since that's how I roll up here in the low end.

a) Inf from Kills: 744,732

b) Inf from sales (recipes, salvage, 2 lousy SOs): 526,985

c) Total Inf (a+b): 1,271,717

Not sold: a Furries; Fairy Wings, Doctored Wounds end/heal, and a Thunderstrike Acc/Dam

Yeah, I should have just deleted the wings in spite, but I like to toss them on the market for nostalgia's sake.

More data...

Character : Fiona Firedrake (Fire/Kin/Fire)
Settings : +2/x8/No Bosses/No AV's
Mission : Defeat Battlemaiden and her guards (2 runs and a little bit of a 3rd run)

Starting amount : 110,189,752

Influence from Kills : 12,574,385
Influence from drops : 2,781,352
Total Influence gained : 15,355,737


Ending amount : 125,755,089

Final time was 1:00

What was left over :

1 Chronal Skip
1 Hamidon Goo
1 Rikti Alloy
1 Synthetic Intelligence Unit

No recipes of note

A lot of rust since I haven't touched my fire/kin/fire for sometime. I may have to see how her second build, which is fire/kin/stone, will fare. And the influence amount pales to what I was able to do with my fire/shield scrapper.

I spent 38 minutes on the wall in Cim. Sadly someone else turned up and knackered my run so I'll extrapolate to 1 hour. (The 38 min included the time needed to sell.)

Inf from defeats 6.12 million.
Inf from drops 3.42 million.
Total 9.54 million.

1017 defeats, 903 minions, 107 LTs and 7 bosses.

I was quite please with my run... until I read the thread. Clearly I can do much better.

P.S. I'd be really grateful if any of you would me the chatlogs you generate while doing this. It'll help pin down the purple and pool C/D drop rates.