Soloing set fo 8

I want a new trolller for solo/occasional teaming that would be able to solo 8 man spawns reasonably fast(other than fire/kin).

Currently i´m looking at plant/kin and mind/kin but the road to fulrcrum is long so i was wondering if there was any other suggestions

I haven't tried setting for 8 but my fire/storm handles 5 rather easily. I don't think it would be too much of a stretch to go to 8. Hmmm will have to check on it and report back. I'd also think that Ill/rad could quite easily as well as plant kin/rad/storm.

My plant/rad does decent as soon as level 15 (Stamina while exemplared) on x8 (+0 at that level, higher at higher levels). With Seeds and RI, it's extremely safe, with Roots and EF, damage output is fine - not blazing fast, but it gets the job done at a decent rate.

I have entangle, strangler and roots all slotted for maximum damage, though. Your experience may vary if you skip/underslot some of these.

The only way you're taking out 8-man spawns with a Mind/Kin is to get enough recharge/hold duration to make Total Dom near-perma. That's the only tool you have to set up, and keep, AoE containment.

However, once you've got that, it's a simple matter of: Use total dom, rush in, siphon speed, siphon power, fulcrum shift, step back, hit them with Terrify and your AoE epic (fire is best for this, Psi master a close second imo). Works best on mobs with lousy psi resist. Then pick off any stranglers. Wait for total dom to recharge and repeat.

If you don't want to wait, you CAN hit a mob with mass confuse, wait a moment while they wail on each other, then hit them with mass hypnosis, then do the whole run-n-buff-n-attack routine. Their initial alpha attack on one another should make up for your lack of containment once your second AoE hits. Then pick off anyone who got lucky and wasn't ganged up on by his comrades. Or if you have enough recharge and you're patient, use Mass Hypnosis, wait until it's almost recharged, then buff, step back, hit terrify, then immediately follow up with MH again, THEN use your epic AoE.

Obviously, these strategies are reliant on a high recharge rate. However, it's also safer than walking into a group of immob'd foes. Yes, the immobs of other sets do damage, yes, they set containment and keep it, but the enemies will still be able to attack back unless you hit them with some other form of distraction or mez (Seeds of Confusion is great for this... if people weren't so set in their ways, I could easily see Plant/Kin being FotM for farming).

Started up a plant kin currently level 6 and soloing -1/6 made me hit level 6 pretty fast.

I've been roaring through 8-person size missions with my Plant/Kin today. He's 24, but it comes down to just two powers: Seeds of Confusion (safety), and Roots (damage).

Of couse, Stamina makes the whole thing a lot less apt to annihilate your end bar. And assault, tactics, siphon power, and siphon speed are nice additions. Carrion Creepers and especially Fulcrum shift will be stunning, a little later.

But really, I've been thinking lately: this whole new difficulty adjust for how many allies you want the mission to spawn at is going to bring the abject brokenness and nerfworthiness of Plant Control out into the open.

Plant is the answer. Until it's nerfed.

Of course, you could do it with Fire, too. The point, though, is that you need really good spawn-size-scaling powers. Plant, or maybe Fire, with Rad, Kin, or Storm.

You know...

I don't think PLANT needs to be nerfed.

I think other primaries, particularily Grav and Mind, need to be brought UP to Plant's level.

I mean, yeah, Plant is broken in that, when it was made (for villains), it wasn't balanced around the user having Containment. When it was ported over, it made for a damn good set, everything a controller set should be.

But honestly, why should controlling be slow and laborous? Why NOT have our cake and eat it too? After all, there's no sense in having cake if you can't eat it, right? It says right in the AT description that Controllers grow to be the strongst characters in the game, but save for a few well-known combinations, they really don't seem that way.

Leave Plant alone, buff everything else =)

I bet my Ill/Emp could solo 8 man spawns at +2, maybe +3 difficulty.

I ran my Fire/Storm/Stone through a mish set at +2/8. It was survivable but I think for its build +2/6 may work smoother. I was never worried about dying so much it was really the speed that the 8 spawn went down. I'd rather move on a little faster. But its very doable with a more expensive build and I'm sure I could tweak the tactics a bit or drop down on the level of the enemies.

Yeah plant works well for damage, I can 'farm' quite quickly on my plant/storm/stone

Well havent played my plant/kin much but i made it to 9 and i solo -1/6 fine as long as i have purple insps. Should pick up considerably post so´s

Since you mentioned the long road to Fulcrum Shift I'd suggest Rad as the secondary, it's very early blooming indeed!

Fire/Rad you can be soloing vast swathes of enemies by level 10 or 12 or so. Plant/Rad would be pretty interesting too. It's basically how and why I created a Fire/Rad, to solo Hazard Zone spawns and survive through debuffs & the rain of Inspirations while you burn them to death.

I wont bother with hazard zone sweeping when you have the new difficulty settings.
DA with firebased toons was nice but now you can just get a BP radio in talos and sweep clean and reset. Increase difficulty until you outlevel it.