IO Prices

I find your post odd.

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Originally Posted by F_M_J That first sentence is a doozy. If you can't pay it, you don't need it? Since when did price determine need? No one ever needs any IO's, they want them. The cost of an item has no bearing on how much you need or want it.

Seriously.

Unless it is food, water, or shelter :: if you can't pay for it, you don't need it.

The game was designed to be played with SO's. You don't need Purples, IO sets, or even IO's if you can't pay for them.

To make it clear. I didn't say WANT. I said NEED.
You don't HAVE TO HAVE purples in order to play the game.

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Unique does not always equate to Rare it means you can only slot one of them per toon.

They are very Rares.
Whites are common
Yellows are uncommon
Orange are rares
Purples are Uniques = Very rares

Are you claiming that purple recipes drop as often or more often than orange recipes?
I sure haven't seen this to be the case.

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btw: just because the price is that high, does not necessarily mean someone paid that much. Price fixing is easy to do and happens A LOT on the market place.

Excuse me?
If the price shows a purchase at that price, how exactly was it purchased for that price if someone didn't pay that price?

And yeah, if someone did "price fix" then they had to pay that price for the price to show that high. So someone did buy it for that price.

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Purples are not all that rare. At least on my server, at any given time I can go to the market, and look up ANY purple IO and there will ALWAYS be some for sale.

Which side?
And for how much?
Maybe not 1.5 billion, but I'm assuming 10's if not 100's of millions.

I have bids up for IO recipes for 250 mil that haven't gone through and they aren't posted on purples.

Just because they are available, doesn't mean that there are more of them. It just means that they are posted and that players aren't willing to pay what they are posted for.

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The cost is only partially set by its rarity, the other part is the ridiculous amount of Influence/Infamy that many players have due to farming or people outright buying influence/infamy.

And those people can pay the huge prices, so let them.

Honestly, I slot very few purples. It is much more worthwhile to me craft and sell purple IO's than it is to use them.

And yeah, purples are rare enough so that the price can be increased.

The sector I market increased yield by 300% since AE launched due to no other reason than increase laziness on the players part. I have even started rewarding lazy players that help me by purchasing their product at 100% more which equates to 2% of the value I sell my product for.

I just wish I could figure out how to translate my CoH market skills into the real world. I would be very wealthy.

I actually agree with Farm-O-Phobic, er, Alt-O-Holic!

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I'm not sure whether to question my own reality, or his.

Miracle +recovery = Unique also NOT purple
Numinas +regen +recovery = Unique also NOT purple
Expedient Reinforcement resist aura io = Unique also NOT Purple
etc, etc...

See what I mean, unique does not equate to purple, or uber rare. Yes, it can be an indication but doesn't necesarily mean very rare. Rarer than most, yes...but not all.

meh, I ran out of steam. I fear if I continue, I will fall back into my old habits of attacks over helpful information.

I don't have the energy to pander to people who have nothing better to do than pick apart peoples posts line by line. Especially when those exact lines have already been addressed earlier in the post. Sure I can respond in kind, but I have neither the energy nor desire to do so.

*puts up the flag of surrender and walks off the field*

so what does this subject have to do with technical issues and bugs? i think a mod should move this to the market section.

Hello All,

Again, great perspectives from different angles of the issue.

I would like to respond to a couple of perspectives presented in general and then maybe bring this thread to a close.

I would first like to point out that the IO I gave was just an example, not the overall driver of my concern.

Secondly, please understand that many of the players whom have reached the "end game" levels and accomplishments, usually roll a variety of toons, start SG's or PVP to continue some level of enjoyment that the COH platform provides. Most of them based on my interactions eventually reach a point to where running missions is no longer of interest, but may find themselves almost forced to do so in order to purchase specific game content. This is something some players will adjust to, and some things they will not.
In regards to an "end game/priviledge" comment thatwas made, most of these "expensive items" can only be used by the end game level toons anyway, so that is not a concern here.

The point is the pricing...Though indeed controlled by the players, does not "justify" the baseline cost of that item, when it begins to impact the gameplay for ALL participants. As it was pointed out, someone could easily key the wrong amount and create an inflationary rise, but based on the commonality of that item...it will eventually fall back down. This would not be the case for rare IO's, that are now even more rare, because of decrease in facets of gameplay by players. That's where the balance should be assisted (not dominated) by the COH team. Otherwise, when does the market costs hit the ceiling? If the logic is never, then IO's can consistently reach billions, or even trillions, but would you still think that to br "okay" as it impacts ALL interested players?

This reminds me of the downfall in my opinion with COH since launch when it introduces new content. There never seems to be a full accounting of impacts by that content. Therefore, it is often left for the players to "adjust" to the ripple affect, oppose to proactively managing the balance and anomalies that may potentially surface from introducing that new content.

considering that there is a cap of 2 billion that can be carried by any given toon i really don't think that prices would go past that. wait a few weeks and things will come back down. AE took up alot of the regular mission farming time hence why there is high demand for low supply and we are seeing such high prices right now. there is also a bug right now that has caused drops to take a hit. when this is discovered it will be fixed and even more things will make it to the market.