Claws Elctric brute what can i skip?


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i started a new claws elec brute an i have no idea in which direction to take him an im just lookin for ideas on how to become a super aggro magnet uber killing machine


 

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Out of electric armor, you can possibly skip grounded if you take combat jumping and put a KB IO in it. You can also skip powersurge as it isn't that big of a deal in the first place when a few orange inspirations can do the same thing.

For claws, you should skip either swipe or strike. I lean towads dropping swipe. I'm not fond of eviscerate, and have avoided it in my builds.


 

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Personally, my problem isn't what to skip in the Primary or Secondary powersets for Villains, it's what to do with the slots I get at 41, 44, and 47. I really dislike the whole Patron system, and the powers in the sets. They should be more like the Ancilary pools from Heroes, and offer more choices and freedom. And no being forced to run an arc just to be able to use them.

For my Claws/ELA, I'm taking every power from both sets, and filling the gaps with Swift/Health/Stamina from Fitness, Combat Jumping from Leaping, and Hasten and Super Speed from Speed. The 10k Raptor Pack in Grandville will be my primary means of travel. That's nice, because it means I can grab Health at 14 now, and not have to worry about a travel power.




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I am not convinced that Stamina is neccessary on a Claws/ELA. I'm thinking that it's something you'd be able to respec out of at 35+.


 

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Originally Posted by Redd Rumm View Post
i started a new claws elec brute an i have no idea in which direction to take him an im just lookin for ideas on how to become a super aggro magnet uber killing machine
You can drop one of the first attacks. The other is dependant upon your preferences. Follow Up, Taunt, Eviscerate and Shockwave are all skippable based on your preferences and build, but they can all be used as effective set mules also. I'd skip Follow Up if I'm not going for mad recharge, and Taunt and Eviscerate if I don't have space or slots to use them as mules. I'd always take Shockwave as an oh **** button, plus it downgrades to knockdown against +4 mobs.

On the /Elec side I'd only drop Power Surge.

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I am not convinced that Stamina is neccessary on a Claws/ELA. I'm thinking that it's something you'd be able to respec out of at 35+.
Perhaps, but only if you go for mad recharge. Otherwise Power Sink and Energize won't be up often enough.


 

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Perhaps, but only if you go for mad recharge. Otherwise Power Sink and Energize won't be up often enough.
I think I'd have trouble burning through my blue bar every 30 seconds, and that's only with SOs, no Hasten factored in and just counting on PS. I think it's pretty doable.


 

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Originally Posted by Kheldarn View Post
Personally, my problem isn't what to skip in the Primary or Secondary powersets for Villains, it's what to do with the slots I get at 41, 44, and 47. I really dislike the whole Patron system, and the powers in the sets. They should be more like the Ancilary pools from Heroes, and offer more choices and freedom. And no being forced to run an arc just to be able to use them.
It's true there's less choice. But you can get Gloom & Darkest Night, plus an AOE from Dark (yum), or an AOE immob (which stops knockback), an AOE and another cone power in Mu. Coupled with Shockwave & Spin those 3 should be pretty damn potent. Plus Mu means more End Draining which may be handy. Scrapper & Tank Pool Powers seem pretty unimpressive, or a bit late in coming compared to Brute ones.

Follow-Up seems skippable on a Brute to me. The small extra damage bonus doesn't seem worth it considering I'll have Fury up high most of the time. I don't see much of a need for Taunt either considering the AOEs I have.

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For my Claws/ELA, I'm taking every power from both sets, and filling the gaps with Swift/Health/Stamina from Fitness, Combat Jumping from Leaping, and Hasten and Super Speed from Speed. The 10k Raptor Pack in Grandville will be my primary means of travel. That's nice, because it means I can grab Health at 14 now, and not have to worry about a travel power.
Good idea with the Raptor Pack. I'll be picking up SS, since Hasten is a given with this build anyway. I'll be doing the multiple respec trick to respec Stamina in at 22 and then getting rid of the Fitness Pool entirely at 37 (22 and 37 also let me get a refund on any DOs/SOs I may not want then). Energise & Power Sink should be enough to keep me going, hopefully.

I'll be bolstering my defenses with the Fighting Pool, speccing it in during the level 37 respec. Weave I'm not too worried about so I have that as my level 49 power, although I might take Mu Lightning instead for a second ranged attack. Do Boxing & Kick both cause redraw? I'm guessing they do, which is a bit of a nuisance.

Here's my planned SO build (hurrah for up to date Sucker Punch).


 

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The 10k Raptor Pack in Grandville will be my primary means of travel.
Still pretty new here, but what is this 10k Raptor Pack thing, and is it a temp power, or a permanent power? I know about the first mayhem mission Raptor Pack, but it only lasts 2 hours. If I can get a permanent Raptor Pack, that would mean that I wouldn't have to worry about wings for my Space Marine power armor looking brute. Plus it might look cool when combined w/ the Rocket Boots costume piece, if it looks like the mayhem mission Raptor Pack.


 

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Still pretty new here, but what is this 10k Raptor Pack thing, and is it a temp power, or a permanent power? I know about the first mayhem mission Raptor Pack, but it only lasts 2 hours. If I can get a permanent Raptor Pack, that would mean that I wouldn't have to worry about wings for my Space Marine power armor looking brute. Plus it might look cool when combined w/ the Rocket Boots costume piece, if it looks like the mayhem mission Raptor Pack.
Logging out in Grandville for 21 days gives you a raptor pack through your dayjob.

You need to make sure that you step far enough away from the ferry (you can look at your buffs to see if you're in the proper dayjob location).


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Logging out in Grandville for 21 days gives you a raptor pack through your dayjob.

You need to make sure that you step far enough away from the ferry (you can look at your buffs to see if you're in the proper dayjob location).
But is the Raptor Pack permanent, or is it something you gotta log out in Grandville every so often for?


 

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Originally Posted by Kheldarn View Post
Personally, my problem isn't what to skip in the Primary or Secondary powersets for Villains, it's what to do with the slots I get at 41, 44, and 47. I really dislike the whole Patron system, and the powers in the sets. They should be more like the Ancilary pools from Heroes, and offer more choices and freedom. And no being forced to run an arc just to be able to use them.
Well to each their own, but I'm quite fond of the patron system as it nets you a respec.


 

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Originally Posted by Tatmia View Post
Logging out in Grandville for 21 days gives you a raptor pack through your dayjob.

You need to make sure that you step far enough away from the ferry (you can look at your buffs to see if you're in the proper dayjob location).
You can BUY a Raptor pack in-game for 10,000 inf off a vendor in Grandville.

I was only pointed in his direction a few weeks ago. He's basically between the ferry and Lord Reclueless's house.


 

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As of i13 you can now buy a jetpack in Grandville (raptor pack) for 10k (10,000 inf) wich lasts 2 hours.

You can also log out in Grandville to get yet another jetpack wich is a day job reward and requires you to log out in Grandville again to regain use time. "For every 24 hours, Character gains 3 minute duration up to a maximum of 0.5 hours". (quoted from cohtitan)

Hope this helps



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I wouldn't suggest dropping follow-up on a brute with electric armor. It's more than a damage booster, it boosts your to-hit as well. With enough global recharge, you can set it up to hit every other attack keeping you slightly on par with rage without the penalties.


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you can set it up to hit every other attack keeping
You need 314% total recharge in followup to be able to fire it off in the fu, slash, focus, repeat attack chain. Stating it can be used between every other attack is a bit of an overstatement.


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I meant to say as a second attack. My current attack chain is Slash >FU >Slash >Focus >Slash >FU >Slash >Shockwave --->repeat. Keeps my bonuses stacked throughout the fight.


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with SOs, stam is skippable. Energize and PS, when slotted for recharge are up often enough to more than handle things


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Wow i dont know if i can give up the cruch known as fitness i have always taken it as a given that all toons need end honestly i would cherish the toon that i could finnaly skip that acurssed set . if claws elec can do it you all have made me very happy this day


 

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i played a claws/elec brute in open beta to 50th, i had 5 attacks -strike , spin , focus , follow up and eviserate,
---- my attack chain was spin- eviserate-follow up and repeat
thats it, 3 attacks and done.

i have spin down to every 4.5 secs and Eviserate down to every 3.7,, id use my single target stuff in the gaps at times, but never "had too" . This guy does a TON of aoe damage

one thing to note about Claws- unlike most sets Claws high damage attacks are the AOEs -- its usealy the AoEs do less then your best single target attack, not the case with claws.
i loved my claws brute and with Lightning reflexs and a few sets( like a +to hit set in follow up) your recharge is easy to keep a 3-4 attack chain and do insane damage to 4-8 bad guys at a time----- skipped only power surge elec side. use lighining feild more as a way too keep end at zero after power sink over for DpS my2cents